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Like all terrorist organisation, the Hamas is composed by young and naive people that enlisted because of their rage against Israel. Meaning that in a context were hamas in put under pressure by every party both international and national, then those people have the choice between sticking to their ideology and war or peace and getting out of the group before being imprisoned. This means that in a context of peace between Palestine and Israel, Hamas will lose not only its material but also its human ressources. Trust me, the young will flee and come back to their family once they see that they don't need to fight anymore.
The question is, what to do with the most radical ones that will remain ? Well, that's for Palestine to decide, not another country. They will be judged and brought to justice for their crimes and the Hamas will eventually dissapear.
But this means that we need PEACE first and EVERYTHING I mentionned above.
The question is, what to do with the most radical ones that will remain ? Well, that's for Palestine to decide, not another country. They will be judged and brought to justice for their crimes and the Hamas will eventually dissapear.
But this means that we need PEACE first and EVERYTHING I mentionned above.
@JohnnyBme btw,any idea when the ground operation will start?
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I don't have a source outside that telegram message, but it connects to what he's saying:
So it's not just an empty hospital with the hospital manager and his kids, it says that it is used as a war room and a UAV storage AND that they shoot rockets from it. So it's a military target. And they asked them to leave.
So it's not just an empty hospital with the hospital manager and his kids, it says that it is used as a war room and a UAV storage AND that they shoot rockets from it. So it's a military target. And they asked them to leave.
I love it when these low effort arguments about Muslims being supposed to hate Jews arrise:
1. The known Muslim Khaliph, Adolf ibn Alois Hitler eradicated most of the Eruopean Jew population (6+ millions) guided by his Islamic extremism.
2. The Khalips of the Spanish Royalty performed an Inquisition and killed/forcefully converted/expelled the Jewish population out of Spain, guided by Qur'anic teachings again
3. Numerous Russian Emirs (like Khalip Alexander III ibn Alexander II) organized multiple pogroms of Jews
4. From before the time of Henry III ibn John, the Sultans of England have in various ways discriminated, segregated, expelled and or persecuted Jews in England and the United Kingdom
5. Here's the actions of known terrorist warlord, Ulysses S. Grant, regarding Jews he encountered during the Civil War:
Major General Ulysses S. Grant was influenced by these sentiments and issued General Order No. 11 expelling Jews from areas under his control in western Tennessee:
Antisemitism is still alive and well in the United Emirates of America where just recently a synagogue was shot up, probably also guided by Qur'anic teachings.
Let's however look at an example of an educated, well mannered, moral state leader and how he acted towards people of other faith's when in charge of the city of Jerusalem in particular.
Note that this man is not an extremist like the aforementioned people and countries, and employed logic and great political wisdom and common sense in his actions:
If this man, who was one of the closest people to prophet Muhammed pbuh did not rape, kill, behead, and otherwise disrespect any and all Jews he met and found in Jerusalem, then I would kindly ask all the quasy "I read all the rakah of the Qur'an" scholars to stop lying to themselves to justify the war crimes of the state of Israel
1. The known Muslim Khaliph, Adolf ibn Alois Hitler eradicated most of the Eruopean Jew population (6+ millions) guided by his Islamic extremism.
2. The Khalips of the Spanish Royalty performed an Inquisition and killed/forcefully converted/expelled the Jewish population out of Spain, guided by Qur'anic teachings again
3. Numerous Russian Emirs (like Khalip Alexander III ibn Alexander II) organized multiple pogroms of Jews
4. From before the time of Henry III ibn John, the Sultans of England have in various ways discriminated, segregated, expelled and or persecuted Jews in England and the United Kingdom
5. Here's the actions of known terrorist warlord, Ulysses S. Grant, regarding Jews he encountered during the Civil War:
Major General Ulysses S. Grant was influenced by these sentiments and issued General Order No. 11 expelling Jews from areas under his control in western Tennessee:
"The Jews, as a class violating every regulation of trade established by the Treasury Department and also department orders, are hereby expelled ... within twenty-four hours from the receipt of this order."
That 24 hour order sounds very familiar to recent events in Palestine.Antisemitism is still alive and well in the United Emirates of America where just recently a synagogue was shot up, probably also guided by Qur'anic teachings.
Let's however look at an example of an educated, well mannered, moral state leader and how he acted towards people of other faith's when in charge of the city of Jerusalem in particular.
Note that this man is not an extremist like the aforementioned people and countries, and employed logic and great political wisdom and common sense in his actions:
If this man, who was one of the closest people to prophet Muhammed pbuh did not rape, kill, behead, and otherwise disrespect any and all Jews he met and found in Jerusalem, then I would kindly ask all the quasy "I read all the rakah of the Qur'an" scholars to stop lying to themselves to justify the war crimes of the state of Israel
No,wrong.Hamas is financed by people all over the Arab world.There is also the problem of Jihad,many of them view this a holy wars of sorts.Many are willing to fight and lose their lives over the lost territory that is now know as Israel.The ARABS will not back down by themselves.What needs to happen is other big players like Saudi Arabia and the USA intervened and force them to sign a two state deal.
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@Monkey D Al here you go
I don't have a source outside that telegram message, but it connects to what he's saying:
So it's not just an empty hospital with the hospital manager and his kids, it says that it is used as a war room and a UAV storage AND that they shoot rockets from it. So it's a military target. And they asked them to leave.
So it's not just an empty hospital with the hospital manager and his kids, it says that it is used as a war room and a UAV storage AND that they shoot rockets from it. So it's a military target. And they asked them to leave.
