It does make sense. It's whatever is more profitable or whatever benefits us the most from a geopolitical standpoint.
It makes a lot of sense. It's not about what is morally right and never was.
That does not mean they are not supporting what is morally right, or morally wrong. I am simply saying that didn't factor into their decision making.
 
What are you talking about?
Your words are basically... about "elites" (who in 4chan's minds are Jews) making decisions that don't benefit the population and instead themselves (and thus, their Zionist plans, in 4chan's opinion). Since right now the Elites, in your words, believe protecting Israel = Good, there is a noticeable similarity in the narrative, even if that was not your intent.
 
Your words are basically... about "elites" (who in 4chan's minds are Jews) making decisions that don't benefit the population and instead themselves (and thus, their Zionist plans, in 4chan's opinion). Since right now the Elites, in your words, believe protecting Israel = Good, there is a noticeable similarity in the narrative, even if that was not your intent.
Since when do US citizens benefit from the senseless wars their government instigate!?
You be throwing around lots of accusations here for the past couple hours when it's you who holds openly islamophobic views
 
Since when do US citizens benefit from the senseless wars their government instigate!?
You be throwing around lots of accusations here for the past couple hours when it's you who hold openly islamophobic views
They don't. I was saying that. I'm just saying your arguments are similar. I think the war is senseless. I also don't hold Islamophobic views. I believe there are certain cultures that will not get along, but that does not mean I think it's entirely one side's fault. Jumping to conclusions is a speciality of yours, Maynard.

Ultimately, this war will only benefit elites, like all wars. It's the poor who pay the price of war.
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Don’t worry guys, this land belongs to me. I will end this war
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Based indigenous individual.

I'm basically the ruler of India with my 12.5% Indian heritage \o/
 
They don't. I was saying that. I'm just saying your arguments are similar. I think the war is senseless. I also don't hold Islamophobic views. I believe there are certain cultures that will not get along, but that does not mean I think it's entirely one side's fault. Jumping to conclusions is a speciality of yours, Maynard.
Don't weasel your way out of this, you think your underhanded Nazi accusations like 'blood and soil' , '4chan argument' etc went unnoticed? And add as much flowery pseudo intellectual language as you want, you're not convincing anybody here
 
Don't weasel your way out of this, you think your underhanded Nazi accusations like 'blood and soil' , '4chan argument' etc went unnoticed? And add as much flowery pseudo intellectual language as you want, you're not convincing anybody here
I was arguing AGAINST Blood and Soil. I believe that land cannot belong to a specific bloodline. :gokulaugh: I accused those who argue that Palestine should own the land are utilising RACIST blood and soil arguments.

If you believe that, like 4chan, the elites want this war to serve their ends, and the war, ultimately, will benefit the Jews who will colonize Gaza, then you're making a similar argument to them. That speaks nothing of my position. I'm just laughing at the horseshoe-effect that is right and left wing politics. Once you hit the extremes, they bend to meet.

Paint me a devil, but it does not make it true. Across the course of history, conquerors have effectively become the culture they took over. For example, the Mongolians and their integration into Russia, or the Romans who settled in Britain. The Anglo-Saxons and Normans too. The supposed indigenous of my homeland come from people who conquered the original owners of the land, lol.

I think it's more about cultural identity and recent history on that land, rather than past ownership. It's why I cited that if Palestine should have it due to 'ancestral ties' then under the same Blood and Soil rhetoric, it probably belongs to the Jews. This does not, in any shape or form, mean that I believe it belongs to the Jewish due to blood. I'm actually criticising the argument.

Damn bro. :whitepress:
 
I was arguing AGAINST Blood and Soil. I believe that land cannot belong to a specific bloodline. :gokulaugh: I accused those who argue that Palestine should own the land are utilising RACIST blood and soil arguments.

If you believe that, like 4chan, the elites want this war to serve their ends, and the war, ultimately, will benefit the Jews who will colonize Gaza, then you're making a similar argument to them. That speaks nothing of my position. I'm just laughing at the horseshoe-effect that is right and left wing politics. Once you hit the extremes, they bend to meet.

Paint me a devil, but it does not make it true. Across the course of history, conquerors have effectively become the culture they took over. For example, the Mongolians and their integration into Russia, or the Romans who settled in Britain. The Anglo-Saxons and Normans too. The supposed indigenous of my homeland come from people who conquered the original owners of the land, lol.

I think it's more about cultural identity and recent history on that land, rather than past ownership. It's why I cited that if Palestine should have it due to 'ancestral ties' then under the same Blood and Soil rhetoric, it probably belongs to the Jews. This does not, in any shape or form, mean that I believe it belongs to the Jewish due to blood. I'm actually criticising the argument.

Damn bro. :whitepress:
agree with this entirely
 

Don’t worry guys, this land belongs to me. I will end this war
:endthis:
Your Libyan DNA is new? When did you acquire it?

I was arguing AGAINST Blood and Soil. I believe that land cannot belong to a specific bloodline. :gokulaugh: I accused those who argue that Palestine should own the land are utilising RACIST blood and soil arguments.

If you believe that, like 4chan, the elites want this war to serve their ends, and the war, ultimately, will benefit the Jews who will colonize Gaza, then you're making a similar argument to them. That speaks nothing of my position. I'm just laughing at the horseshoe-effect that is right and left wing politics. Once you hit the extremes, they bend to meet.

Paint me a devil, but it does not make it true. Across the course of history, conquerors have effectively become the culture they took over. For example, the Mongolians and their integration into Russia, or the Romans who settled in Britain. The Anglo-Saxons and Normans too. The supposed indigenous of my homeland come from people who conquered the original owners of the land, lol.

I think it's more about cultural identity and recent history on that land, rather than past ownership. It's why I cited that if Palestine should have it due to 'ancestral ties' then under the same Blood and Soil rhetoric, it probably belongs to the Jews. This does not, in any shape or form, mean that I believe it belongs to the Jewish due to blood. I'm actually criticising the argument.

Damn bro. :whitepress:
You're becoming the new c4n with these apologetic walls of text:joker:
 
agree with this entirely
Thank you. Ultimately, many racists want you to believe that a land belongs to a bloodline. That's stupid. Immigrants can have as much of a tie to a land as any native individual. My grandfather fought for my homeland when he was an immigrant. He loved the country, the land, the culture and the people. He was just as British as anyone else, in my opinion.

And it's part of why I'm so fucking proud of him. He may have been Indian by blood, but it wasn't his blood he identified with... it was where his heart belonged -- the culture he felt at home in -- and he was my hero growing up. But yes, I'm clearly just a (x)phobe.
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Don’t worry guys, this land belongs to me. I will end this war
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Lads, new DNA just dropped.
 
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Please read my following comments to see the point I was making about the political horse-shoe.

Ultimately, there are individuals who will have conspiracy theories.

On principle, I have nothing against Israel or Palestine. This entire thing is a shit-show. But I am tired of the racial purity arguments that are just covert ways of justifying terrorism.

Hamas was wrong to commit terror, but it's clear the Israeli government are not saints (note: not civilians). But I support Israel's right to feel anger over a recent atrocity.
 
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If we can argue the 70 years of hurt, we can also argue that Israel, or that land, originally belonged to the Jews, once upon a time.
2023 and you still have this kind of reasoning lmao. I guess most Americans should be expelled from the US

If someone harmed my wife, killed her, raped her, I would see red. I can imagine a lot of Israelis feel that way.
Wtf are you on? That's quite the opposite of what actually happened, Israel invaded them first. It was just recently Hamas managed to put up somewhat of a fight. Before, Hamas could barely fight and they still bombed Gaza relentlessly, i know this because my country is one of the major supports in giving humanitarian aid, and i would say it was often that i saw the refugee camp, the hospital, the school that we built got decimated along with the innocent palestinians. What a joke

Peace, at this point, is rolling over for Islam and hoping they don't try to take more -- and should history be any proof (Ottomans, Saracens, etc) that isn't going to happen.
You be smoking weed man, Ottoman was literally a safe haven for jews compared to other parts of the world
 
2023 and you still have this kind of reasoning lmao. I guess most Americans should be expelled from the US



Wtf are you on? That's quite the opposite of what actually happened, Israel invaded them first. It was just recently Hamas managed to put up somewhat of a fight. Before, Hamas could barely fight and they still bombed Gaza relentlessly, i know this because my country is one of the major supports in giving humanitarian aid, and i would say it was often that i saw the refugee camp, the hospital, the school that we built got decimated along with the innocent palestinians. What a joke



You be smoking weed man, Ottoman was literally a safe haven for jews compared to other parts of the world
First point: I disagree, because my point was that blood and soil makes no sense. The Israeli's call it home now. It sucks, but it's how things are.

Second point: I believe, due to the nature of retaliation, that it's effectively impossible to ascertain (nor does it matter) who shot the first shot, so to speak. I understand why Israeli's would feel rage at what Hamas has done, irrespective of what happened before.

Third point: The point was not about Jews. These were warmongering groups that did not really peacefully coexist. They were conquerors. Islam believes it owns the holy land, at least that's the impression I have gotten from going out and speaking to protestors in my country. I am saying that I cannot see Palestine not wanting more once it's given something. It'll keep growing. After all, they believe they are justice, at least, it's radical wing does and it's supporters like yourself, who in this very message has accused Israel as being the ones at fault.
 
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