Controversial Is Roger A Fraud ?

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Did he deserve his title or did he simply just get their first, it was never said if he actually defeated Whitebeard or Garp, it was said he avoided fighting big mom and he needed help from Garp to beat Rocks, was saved from Shiki by a storm.

And he protected celestial dragons

Is Roger a powerful, benevolent man

Or is he a true pirate greedy and only lives for his crew

The fact he wiped out entire countries over night was told

But never once did someone say Roger is a hero! He saved my life!

Roger is a true menace a criminal who happened to get to raftle first
 
ako

ako

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#3
#3
It all depends on whether he has defeated Xebec in a clean 1 v 1 or not. Roger vs Xebec was the Luffy vs BB of the previous era and the battle for the greatest pirate being.

If he really went 2 vs 1 against Xebec and needed Garps help then he is a fraud.
 
Djordje

Djordje

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#6
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ako said:
It all depends on whether he has defeated Xebec in a clean 1 v 1 or not. Roger vs Xebec was the Luffy vs BB of the previous era and the battle for the greatest pirate being.

If he really went 2 vs 1 against Xebec and needed Garps help then he is a fraud.
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How does that make him a fraud ?
 
Djordje

Djordje

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#9
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Roger is no bigger fraud than Whitebeard and Kaido are by that logic.

Whitebeard called world strongest man while at same time he was called Roger equal , he fought him for 3 days without winner , how is he world strongest man when he never defeated Roger ?
No feats of him defeating Garp or Sengoku for the matter .

Kaido is called world strongest creature yet what his official record is in manga ?
Could not defeat Oden without help .
Faced Big Mom for 3 days and ended in tie.
Could not overcome Shanks and retreated home not fulfilling his goal of killing Whitebeard .
Lost to Joyboy .
Suffered defeat 7 times .

Whitebeard and Kaido never defeated any top tier like Garp , Roger , Sengoku , Shiki or each other to claim those titles.
 
MonsterKaido

MonsterKaido

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#10
#10
Roger is no doubt going to be one of the strongest character of all time but yeah no one stood in his path to become PK. WB didn't cared enough. Shiki never showed interest where as currently 4 yonkos are all in deadlock.

Roger definitely had it easy comparatively speaking.
 
DavyJones

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#13
#13
Roger probably pulled up to God Valley and fought with everyone except Garp. He prolly assisted slave escapes, but mostly focused on dunking on rival factions. Saturn/Garling stay out of Rogers way for the most part (he's him) and focus on protecting Celestial Dragons and the Rocks pirates gunning for them specifically.
 
RayanOO

RayanOO

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ััƒะบะฐ said:
I love how you always wank "legends" to be potentially above Roger but you conveniently exclude Ryuma, for obvious reasons
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Because Ryuma place into the story is not as big as Joyboy / Imu

Ryuma is also a legend and lad strong but not as strong as the two others and less strong than Rogerbeard too.

I have Ryuma around Kaido level or a shade above

but not too 5
 
C

Cruxroux

#20
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RayanOO said:
Because Ryuma place into the story is not as big as Joyboy / Imu

Ryuma is also a legend and lad strong but not as strong as the two others and less strong than Rogerbeard too.

I have Ryuma around Kaido level or a shade above

but not too 5
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Yea the person who single handedly held saved Wano and Held Sword God title. Is weaker than Roger. Ok
:hapnoel::hapnoel:
 
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