Who will be the Next Strawhat?


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:lawsigh: oh boi..

Let me rephrase. The burden of proof was mine at the beginning of this conversation, the very beginning, meaning page 1 of this thread. When my claims was this one:

"All the strawhats share a set of parameters that we can use to predict a future strawhat."

In the meantimes, I PROVED that claim. Here on my blog

Meaning that I don't have the burden of proof anymore. Basic logic.

After that you said "you are wrong". Which is, in regards to my proofs, a extraordinary claim. Which means that we are in the reversal of the burden of proof. its now YOU who need to prove your claim.

YOU need to prove that my proof are non conclusive. Its easy, I've listed each proof at every point of the reasonning and the pillar mainly with chapter or citations. So you only need to prove that one parameters is actually not shared by the strawhat in every pillar given the parameters that I describe and you will have proven my reasonning wrong.

Now, do the job or stop saying that I'm wrong.

:sanmoji:
I wanted to reall give your theory a go and went to your blog. But I have to be honest I had to drop it at the first pillar. Antagonistic introduction doesn’t fit all the strawhats at all. And the fact that Luffy gets subjected to the theory is complet bogus. He is the one that chooses his Nakama. He is not a Nakama.
I don’t need to continue reading it if I find a mistake in the first pillar already.
 
How does that make sense? If you’re wrong about the conclusion, doesn’t that mean there was a problem with your reasoning?
Simple logic.
Let's take as an example a theory that Oda might have changed the path of the character of Carrot at the last minute (meaning at the beginning of Wano).. well, in this case, my conclusion would indeed be wrong, but my reasonning being that Carrot was constructed like a strawhat and that she was therefore predictible as a potential strawhat would still holds.

This is the magic of logic.

Yes, this is counter intuitive, but despite having a wrong conclusion, my reasonning still holds its ground in face of a potential prediction of a new strawhat.


Give me a statistic in which everyone, who calls themselves "sceptic" has voiced their opinion that "[...] playing with numbers to confirm a theory is close to a complotist based mindset."
Nice, you tricked me. There is indeed no "statistic". its just basic sceptical reasonning mate.


Why is it a problem that you are attributing less weight to the Gorowase than me? It is a matter of subjectivity and no problem.
No, the problem is that you prefer complotism mindset over rationnal reasonning.


Why is it a bad way? If I come to the right conclusion (figuring out, who the 11th SHP is)
That's the thing you don't understand. EVEN if it would come to the right conclusion, it would STILL be a bad reasonning. Simply because its not based on rationnal logic but on confirmation bias.


I hope you will find your own way in storytelling and anaöysing, because if you always immitate other's thinking, than you will never be better than them. By going about it the way you like you are creating your own place as a writer and analyst - this leaves you more freedom to try out different things.
Sure


Can I actually pick up a little angry strain hinted in between those lines? Because, people start to insult others, when they feel angry and cannot hold back their feelings. Calling my analysis "BS" would indicate that. What are you angry about?
Hehe nah. No one on this forum has seen me angry.
I can be a little triggered at time but it only happens on very rare occasions.

And since you cannot look into my head and do not know me, you cannot ascertain that
I don't need to look into your head, reading the theory is enough to understand that it is only based on confirmation biases.

And behind that "IF" of yours is an "if not". Meaning therefore you are undecided: https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/for...embers-and-the-grand-fleet.31999/post-4856739
Indeed, I'm neutral on the question. I'm open to all possibilities.


Good, than we fit perfectly together, because I love analysing. I analyse first and you can draw your theories from it. Would actually be fun.
Then might I suggest for you to look at real theories and not just the one that confirm your preexisting suppositions ?
 
Simple logic.
Let's take as an example a theory that Oda might have changed the path of the character of Carrot at the last minute (meaning at the beginning of Wano).. well, in this case, my conclusion would indeed be wrong, but my reasonning being that Carrot was constructed like a strawhat and that she was therefore predictible as a potential strawhat would still holds.

This is the magic of logic.

Yes, this is counter intuitive, but despite having a wrong conclusion, my reasonning still holds its ground in face of a potential prediction of a new strawhat.
:mihanha:
That’s really cool bro.
But Carrot still didn’t join.
So your reasoning was wrong by definition.
No amount of spin is going to change that.
 
Enlighten us. What don't we understand that you do?
1. All the strawhats have specific parameters of construction in common we can see that through a deep analysis of the story

2. I counted 10 foundamental construction parameters that all the strawhats are sharing

3. I sorted those 10 parameter by order of importance and gave them a % as a result.

4. We can see that Carrot much like Vivi is depicting a lot of those parameter.

5. Their result is superior to 70%

So Carrot and Vivi are mainly constructed like strawhats.
 
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1. All the strawhats have specific parameters of construction in common we can see that through a deep analysis of the story

2. I counted 10 foundamental construction parameters that all the strawhats are sharing

3. I sorted those 10 parameter by order of importance and gave them a % as a result.

4. We can see that Carrot much like Vivi is depicting a lot of those parameter.

5. Their result is superior to 70%

So Carrot and Vivi are mainly constructed like strawhats.

Yes congratulations everyone here as their own set of "pillars" and standards to asses new SH potential, so what? They have diferent standards and reached diferent conclusions, how hard is it to understand that?
 

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Someone keep track how many pages it's been that we've discussing the same argument with Logiko.

The bonney train is going to come and go purely becayse of that.:suresure:
Technically you could go as far back as the old thread for that, if you're into reading a backlog of 500+ pages of utter nonsense of course :rolaugh:
 
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