Character Discussion Mihawk and Ryuma

#82
Deductive reasoning.. Logic based induced Proof..

All Swordsmen are Men..
All Men are Creatures..
All Swordsmen are Creatures..

All Dolphins are Mammals..
All Mammals have Kidneys..
All Dolphins have Kidneys..

I refuse to beleive that you don't understand this.. You're must just too infatuated with Zoro and Mihawk to acknowledge basic truth..
Again. One Piece is not a tournament fighting manga whether our title for subclasses. You can't claim your post is supported by the deductive reason and then make stuff up that doesn't exist in One Piece.

Mihawk's WSS title is the only title we can say was achieved by actually fighting others to prove he was the strongest. Kaido title is based on rumors and assumption he couldn't be killed. Not because he actually traveled the world and fought and beat everybody.
 
#85
The only two GOATs able to forge a black blade. Ryuma probably is the first one to do it. Guys like Admirals with swordsmen Fuji and/or GB, Yonkos like Shanks, PK Roger, Gorosei Ethan, none of these top tiers managed to do what these two have accomplished. They are a tier above all these. These two can probably take on all the Admirals together. Ryuma defended against the world which included these Gorosei and Mihawk is hurting people IRL. Truly the GOATs. And when Zoro surpasses these two he will be the strongest ever.
Both black blades are painted, tho. :gokulaugh:
 
#86
Again. One Piece is not a tournament fighting manga whether our title for subclasses. You can't claim your post is supported by the deductive reason and then make stuff up that doesn't exist in One Piece.

Mihawk's WSS title is the only title we can say was achieved by actually fighting others to prove he was the strongest. Kaido title is based on rumors and assumption he couldn't be killed. Not because he actually traveled the world and fought and beat everybody.
Disingenuous cope argument..

Swordsmen, Men and Creatures are all living beings in the world of One Piece.. So their are all part of the same set..

You'd look less dumb if you tried to argue that Mihawk's title is above the other 2 titles honestly..
 
#87
Slow it down with the wank.
Only facts
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I didn't say Shusui's Rank didn't Rise
I said that Shusui's Haki isn't as Strong as Roger, WB, Mihawk, Shanks ... etc
Otherwise, his Sword would have become Supreme Grade
Shusui's haki?
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Ehi ehi you forgot these today

Mihawk bodies your fav
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You forgot Usopp..

He was able to forge his Kabuto into a Black Kabuto..
First Strawhat to turn his Weapon Black..





Troll GTFO
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Both black blades are painted, tho. :gokulaugh:
Mihawk bodies your fav, Marine Hunter solos Marines
 
#88
Oden > Roger.

I simply cannot be blamed for dialogues that the author chooses to insert into the manga and that harm Roger...:kayneshrug::myman:
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Still not a response.

Explain to me why we should consider 1 hyperbolic self-hyping and not the other.

Also, read below
Oden's style might be better or stronger style than Roger's actually or just for him.. in the end it comes to individual's power also.. akayaza 9 could not do all together what single oden did to kaido with copied Oden's nitoryu style.. Yamato cant do shit to Kaido with copied kaido's style.. overall power (haki , durability, speed etc etc ) plays big role also as much style.. we are looking for the strongest , not a pure skill competition.. when it comes to style or skill , opponents of zoro sometimes wonder if its circus act
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#89
You'd look less dumb if you tried to argue that Mihawk's title is above the other 2 titles honestly..
The title is not above the other two but the title holder is above the other two title holders.
WSM and WSC are relics of the past, when Whitebeard was in his prime while Mihawk was a teenager.
Kaido was WSC for decades before Mihawk managed to forge the strongest weapon in the world and surpass him.
If titles were obtained at the same time, then yes, your argument would make sense.
But there is this thing called context that you struggle with, Rootie-chin. :milaugh:
 
#90
Mihawk fans should be careful, because if Oda's previous manga wanted! is anything to go by - and it seems like it might be since this was the manga that ryuma slayed the dragon - then midhawk is a fraud.

Here was his character


Familiar right?

He was a fraud all along though


Wouldn't be surprised if something similar happened in one piece.

Either ways Ryuma is a cut above mid
 
#93
The title is not above the other two but the title holder is above the other two title holders.
WSM and WSC are relics of the past, when Whitebeard was in his prime while Mihawk was a teenager.
Kaido was WSC for decades before Mihawk managed to forge the strongest weapon in the world and surpass him.
If titles were obtained at the same time, then yes, your argument would make sense.
But there is this thing called context that you struggle with, Rootie-chin. :milaugh:
Mihawk was 5- 10 yrs old, when Whitebeard was in his prime lmao
 
#95
The title is not above the other two but the title holder is above the other two title holders.
WSM and WSC are relics of the past, when Whitebeard was in his prime while Mihawk was a teenager.
Kaido was WSC for decades before Mihawk managed to forge the strongest weapon in the world and surpass him.
If titles were obtained at the same time, then yes, your argument would make sense.
But there is this thing called context that you struggle with, Rootie-chin. :milaugh:
Nice mental gymnastic.. But your baseless argument is invalid..

You're having a hard dealing with Usopp being the first Strawhat to turn his weapon Black?..
 
#99
Yes, Oda really failed to deliver on Zoro during Wano. All Zoro did was:
- beat 3 SN
- mastering enma
- scare Wano strongest sumo wrestler
- outperform the rooftop SN
- block a combo attack, hakai, from 2 yonkos
- beat a lunarian, Kaido's RHM, and a character harder to damage than Kaido
- best and scar Kaido in battle
- obtain CoC/ACoC
- survive medicine side effects that double the damage

That's quite a letdown.
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None of these things are things that Zoro promised to do except beating King. You can powerscale as much as you want, which wasn’t the point of my post, I generally care that an MC says something for a reason and will back up their own words with actions instead of leaving such plot lines empty.

At least for the slicing Kaido stuff he tried. But the fact that there was no plot concerning Ryuma and Zoro in the swordmen country Wano, or him caring about Orochi in Onigashima, or leading a group of Samurai as a swordsman, is especially a huge letdown.

I mean Luffy said that he would make sure Tama is fed nicely every day, a promise that should be so trivial, and he even managed to accomplish that.
 
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