Controversial Why are people in denial about Fuji/Ryo being future Zoro/Sanji victims?

[RoronoaZorro]

I don't think zoro will have an extra fight but to tell you the truth it is not necessary.
Characters with the same title aren't on the same level and that is proven through all op history.
Ofc sanji's admiral would be op but once again would be a clear difference between him Zoro's admiral. King and Queen are calamities but king was kaido strongest and the FM while queen was the next best thing.
Even if zoro face mihawk which o doubt too, sanji still will fight someone.
As for mihawk's pl i don't think sanji would ever surpass him but if zoro fights him, sanji will face someone really powerful as well.
(Not crocodile ofc lol).

Yes sir.

The worrying thing is Oda paired Croc to Mihawk.

Plus all of Sanji's opponents has thematic depth to him, out of "below Mihawk, above Queen" enemies, only Croc have enough connection to Sanji.

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Both are fighting gorosei or villains above Mihawk at EoS

Zoro ain't having a villain higher than admiral/mihawk while Sanji doesn't

I don't think Sanji will get someone even lightly above Mihawk, because it will cheaper WSS title & Zoro's dream.

He sacrificed a lot for this dream, yet Sanji can do it too. That would be anti-climatic.

The most I can see is someone below Mihawk, but not far away, like the weaker Admirals.

 

[Daves John]

You guys just can't understand OP since you have stupid ideas like "mihawk yonko level, zoro is much above Sanji...King is much above queen" things that Oda never said nor shown

I guess Mihawk rejecting the title of Yonko, having a Yonko level bounty without having underlings and having swordsmanship superior to one of the strongest Yonko (who relies on swordsmanship) was too subtle for you?

 

[Manos. AsuraZoro]

Yes sir.

The worrying thing is Oda paired Croc to Mihawk.

Plus all of Sanji's opponents has thematic depth to him, out of "below Mihawk, above Queen" enemies, only Croc have enough connection to Sanji.

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It is not that i have something against crocodile, he is a great character with personality and he is more than just power plus oda can fix his pl.
The thing is, that i believe he was a woman and sanji would understand that and there would be no real fight between them.
Even for zoro vs mihawk i have my doubts because mihawk gave Zoro an amazing gift and they spend more time together then luffy and zoro.
For me cross guild will lose from really powerful enemies and strawhats will beat those.
The hard part is that i cant find a yonko level swordsman that could take on mihawk lol
Shanks is out of the question for some reasons but the most important one is that he is connected with luffy.

 

[Roronoa-sama]

garling>>akainu>>aramaki
Why zoro will fight agaisnt the admirals?

 

[RoronoaZorro]

It is not that i have something against crocodile, he is a great character with personality and he is more than just power plus oda can fix his pl.
The thing is, that i believe he was a woman and sanji would understand that and there would be no real fight between them.
Even for zoro vs mihawk i have my doubts because mihawk gave Zoro an amazing gift and they spend more time together then luffy and zoro.
For me cross guild will lose from really powerful enemies and strawhats will beat those.
The hard part is that i cant find a yonko level swordsman that could take on mihawk lol
Shanks is out of the question for some reasons but the most important one is that he is connected with luffy.

For me I have a problem with his pl. Lucci is a prodigy, but if we equate his progress from EL Lucci to EH Lucci, to old Croc & new Croc, Croc is still only on Queen or slightly above level. And Sanji won't have a problem.

Yeah, I do agree about him being/connected to women stuff.

It is valid for me because Sanji have parallels for his PreTS & postTS enemies.

Such as invisible dude, Absalom & Queen, or like he teamed up against a giant in PreTS (Oars) and also teamed up in PostTS (Wadatsumi).

Mr 2 (man woman) can be a parallel for Mr 0 (man woman).

 

[Sir Yasheen]

For me I have a problem with his pl. Lucci is a prodigy, but if we equate his progress from EL Lucci to EH Lucci, to old Croc & new Croc, Croc is still only on Queen or slightly above level. And Sanji won't have a problem.

Yeah, I do agree about him being/connected to women stuff.

It is valid for me because Sanji have parallels for his PreTS & postTS enemies.

Such as invisible dude, Absalom & Queen, or like he teamed up against a giant in PreTS (Oars) and also teamed up in PostTS (Wadatsumi).

Mr 2 (man woman) can be a parallel for Mr 0 (man woman).

I mean Crocodile was directly stated to be similar to Luffy and we saw how much Crocodile grew in just 2 years.

I doubt crocs secret is that he’s a woman, it wouldn’t exactly be anything major imo especially not something Croc would fear coming to light. Imo it’ll relate to his heritage. Somehow he knew information only the royal family of alabasta was aware of including the information that was on that poneglyphs. In fact even when Robin said he was wrong, Croc was certain that Poneglyph had the location of pluton written on it for some reason.

 

[NAMELESS]

One is a bushido swordsman who has already clashed with Zoro in the past

The other is a womanizing dirtbag who hasn’t eaten food in over 3 years, and his nature powers juxtapose Sanji’s genetically-enhanced body (science vs nature)

They’re the second and third strongest members of the Marines (Kizaru will likely be out of the story by the end of Egghead), so it’s only natural that Luffy’s Wings fight the top 2 henchmen while Luffy takes on the leader of the Marines

I was thinking Sanji might never make it into top tier status,but i think i was wrong now.

 

[Manos. AsuraZoro]

For me I have a problem with his pl. Lucci is a prodigy, but if we equate his progress from EL Lucci to EH Lucci, to old Croc & new Croc, Croc is still only on Queen or slightly above level. And Sanji won't have a problem.

Yeah, I do agree about him being/connected to women stuff.

It is valid for me because Sanji have parallels for his PreTS & postTS enemies.

Such as invisible dude, Absalom & Queen, or like he teamed up against a giant in PreTS (Oars) and also teamed up in PostTS (Wadatsumi).

Mr 2 (man woman) can be a parallel for Mr 0 (man woman).

You really have put some thought into it and your points are valid too.
And while oda could fix his pl as i said, it would be farfetched for croc to reach the top tier level even if he is at the lowest in the league.
I don't really think that those two will fight but yeah if oda wants to be creative and give sanji a spectacular fight he needs to do some miracles lol.

 

[NAMELESS]

I mean Crocodile was directly stated to be similar to Luffy and we saw how much Crocodile grew in just 2 years.

I doubt crocs secret is that he’s a woman, it wouldn’t exactly be anything major imo especially not something Croc would fear coming to light. Imo it’ll relate to his heritage. Somehow he knew information only the royal family of alabasta was aware of including the information that was on that poneglyphs. In fact even when Robin said he was wrong, Croc was certain that Poneglyph had the location of pluton written on it for some reason.

yep,Oda needs to flash out Crocodile better.

 

[CensoredbyWG]

Ok, and?

Break next week

 

[Aknolagon]

Kizaru is for Zoro.

Dude showed nothing against Luffy.
Both are sleeping because of fucking plot.

 

[The White Crane]

Break next week

 

[haxxor]

I used to think Fujitora would fight zoro, then I thought Kizaru being the RHM of Akainu fights zoro

now I think Greenbull fights zoro, his sword and the color scheme matches each other and that’s also because Fuji would probably side with the revolutionaries

 

[RoronoaZorro]

I mean Crocodile was directly stated to be similar to Luffy and we saw how much Crocodile grew in just 2 years.

I doubt crocs secret is that he’s a woman, it wouldn’t exactly be anything major imo especially not something Croc would fear coming to light. Imo it’ll relate to his heritage. Somehow he knew information only the royal family of alabasta was aware of including the information that was on that poneglyphs. In fact even when Robin said he was wrong, Croc was certain that Poneglyph had the location of pluton written on it for some reason.

How would his heritage comes into play for the endgame plot tho?
I think that info could be acquired by him since he's related to underworld

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You really have put some thought into it and your points are valid too.
And while oda could fix his pl as i said, it would be farfetched for croc to reach the top tier level even if he is at the lowest in the league.
I don't really think that those two will fight but yeah if oda wants to be creative and give sanji a spectacular fight he needs to do some miracles lol.

Agree. I've heard somewhere that Croc fight can be a Sanji fight, for him to unlock FS. His Logia trickery & somewhat awakened power can be emphasized (the moisture sucking thing). Thus, he can be a somewhat difficult fight. What do you think?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

How would his heritage comes into play for the endgame plot tho?
I think that info could be acquired by him since he's related to underworld

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Agree. I've heard somewhere that Croc fight can be a Sanji fight, for him to unlock FS. His Logia trickery & somewhat awakened power can be emphasized (the moisture sucking thing). Thus, he can be a somewhat difficult fight. What do you think?

It’s honestly possible he’s a descendant of Nefertari Lily as I don’t know how else he could know about the Poneglyphs contents

 

[Manos. AsuraZoro]

How would his heritage comes into play for the endgame plot tho?
I think that info could be acquired by him since he's related to underworld

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Agree. I've heard somewhere that Croc fight can be a Sanji fight, for him to unlock FS. His Logia trickery & somewhat awakened power can be emphasized (the moisture sucking thing). Thus, he can be a somewhat difficult fight. What do you think?

I agree.
Crocodile has a very powerful df and his awakening would be crazy too.
I just have the cross guild as a non antagonist group, at least for now.
It's not like i only cant see mihawk vs zoro happening, i also can't see crocodile as a menacing figure that wants to kill luffy anymore as well.
I could be wrong but for me cross guild is meant for something else and not for fighting strawhats.
Sorry for the late reply, i didn't have a notification

 

[DonWick]

There's no power creep

Sanji =< zoro
Both will be getting PUs against BBP then PUs again to beat Admirals/top tiers

You guys just can't understand OP since you have stupid ideas like "mihawk yonko level, zoro is much above Sanji...King is much above queen" things that Oda never said nor shown

I think Oda showed them in the fights

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Really? Because Luffy just one shoted one.
Luffy was doing good against Fujitora as well and that was back in Dressrosa.
I don't think the gap is that big between Kizaru and Sanji for example.

Kizaru would likely low diff Sanji. Sanji has never done anything remotely impressive against a top tier.

 

[Sweetdreams]

I remember when you guys insisted that Sanji would fight a mere Tobi Roppo while Zoro fights All-Star King. Sanji's major opponents will have the same rank as Zoro's major opponents and be portrayed as close in strength. If you think Oda would write Sanji fighting som rando VA while Zoro fights an Admiral, than you haven't been reading One Piece.

It was worse than that. They were insisting that Zoro was going to defeat Kaido while sanjis fights a Tobi roppo

 

[JoNdule]

I think Oda showed them in the fights

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Kizaru would likely low diff Sanji. Sanji has never done anything remotely impressive against a top tier.

You read 2 poeces

In one piece, Oda called both wings and have always placed them on same level
The rest is you guys coping

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I remember when you guys insisted that Sanji would fight a mere Tobi Roppo while Zoro fights All-Star King. Sanji's major opponents will have the same rank as Zoro's major opponents and be portrayed as close in strength. If you think Oda would write Sanji fighting som rando VA while Zoro fights an Admiral, than you haven't been reading One Piece.

Don't worry

They'll create threads on an admiral is twice below another admiral
They will do the same for Gorosei too and BBP

Watch them make whoever that fights zoro >> the admiral/gorosei that fights Sanji

 

[langitbarat]

I remember when you guys insisted that Sanji would fight a mere Tobi Roppo while Zoro fights All-Star King. Sanji's major opponents will have the same rank as Zoro's major opponents and be portrayed as close in strength. If you think Oda would write Sanji fighting som rando VA while Zoro fights an Admiral, than you haven't been reading One Piece.

Yeah. There's a minimum-maximum limit for Zoro and Sanji's everything.

King can be the strongest Commander, Queen can be the weakest Commander, they're still at the same level of strength.

Since Mihawk is at the top of Emperor level, it is guaranteed that Sanji will face someone at least at the bottom/low Emperor level / top tier.