General & Others Be honest, do you think One Piece is in it's way to be a historical masterpiece?

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nehir

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One Piece is now mainstream more than it has ever been, qnd unfortunately seems that the end is (relatively) near, so I propose this reflection to the community;

Thought history many stories and legends resisted the test of time, mostly because they were influential enough to shape its predecessors. We even hear about the Hero's Journey theory, on how many stories have the same arch of development for the protagonist (only enough, this doesn't seem to be applied to One Piece).

Odyssey, Shakespeare, and many others have gained great notoriety in western civilization, while others stories have had the same impact in Eastern. However some modern stories such as Lord of the Rings are being retold in other formats even almost a century after is publishment and probably omegle will continue so many years after.

Considering One Piece Live Action most recent success, do you believe that maybe One Piece will reach this level and be told and retold on multiple formats decades after it's conclusion?

Thanks for reading.
 
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Paperchampion23

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I think objectively it will go down in history as the best adventure manga of all time, especially if it can nail its endgame with its remaining characters.

That said, thats a MONUMENTAL task. Not only has the series release schedule almost halved lately, but Oda still has to address roughly 80% of the series major factions still:

- 2 other major Yonko (count Buggy however you want)
- Akainu and his Marines
- The Revolutionaries
- The World Government
- Countless other smaller things like several Shichibukai (Weevil, Hancock, Kuma and Mihawk), Supernova (Bonney and Urouge), the Underworld Emperors, Impel Down level 6 escapees, The Burned Man, Rocks, etc
- Islands that the above need to take place on: Elbaf, Lodestar, and Laugh Tale in the least

Imho, itll only be that great if Oda doesnt rush, or at least pays off most of it in a very meaty war that doesnt skip over the details, which I feel will be 50/50 good and bad.

I dont agree that one piece is worse now then it has been though compared to other users here. Especially the last 40 chapters or so have been some of my favorite content. thus far, and yes while it traded character moments for world building, I am do not mind it. We got 15 years worth of personal strawhat stories and still get some occasionally, but with so much at stake on the rest of his characters, it needed to be sacrificed to address the resr of it.
 
M944

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Yeah Oda Can wrote really good things look at Egghead it's pretty good. Just Kuma's Flashback last chapters is something you don't find anywhere
 
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IsaziSempi

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No. Only if from here on out it represents the story how it should be. Oda made one piece into the oppressed being saved by a godly figure. So unless it reflects on reality here in real world I don't see why people would look back on this as some type of great master piece of social commentary. Luffy doesn't want to be looked at as a hero but he's hes barely a pirate. It's not even a story about how unlawfulness can fight against oppression because once again unlike Lelouch of the rebellion luffy isn't a criminal mastermind. He's a typical shounen protagonist following his dreams. He's basically free from consequences and taken out mutiple people who oppose the wg.in the end he will take out the wg by accident fueled by luck and have no concept of what he's done. He has no penchant for ruling so in the end the world will be ruled by someone else riding his coatails. I guess it brought the spirit joyboy into pop culture but that's it. It's just a really good and long adventure manga. Prove me wrong oda.
 
Bisoromi Bear

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nehir said:
One Piece is now mainstream more than it has ever been, qnd unfortunately seems that the end is (relatively) near, so I propose this reflection to the community;

Thought history many stories and legends resisted the test of time, mostly because they were influential enough to shape its predecessors. We even hear about the Hero's Journey theory, on how many stories have the same arch of development for the protagonist (only enough, this doesn't seem to be applied to One Piece).

Odyssey, Shakespeare, and many others have gained great notoriety in western civilization, while others stories have had the same impact in Eastern. However some modern stories such as Lord of the Rings are being retold in other formats even almost a century after is publishment and probably will continue so many years after.

Considering One Piece Live Action most recent success, do you believe that maybe One Piece will reach this level and be told and retold on multiple formats decades after it's conclusion?

Thanks for reading.
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Yes. One Piece is definitely becoming one of the pillars of cartoon history
 
ragemaster

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No. It was refreshing to watch till Marineford. Now it has become too repetitive - opressed country - strawhats save them - make allies - gain powerup - repeat. All of the post time skip arcs are effectively fillers tbh with oda scattering some important bits here & there, which he could've anyways done by directly jumping to the endgame.
 
Kung-Fu Dugong

Kung-Fu Dugong

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It's very hard for a shonen manga (or even a western comic series aimed for young people) to mark its name in history. Maybe in Japan, it'll certainly make an everlasting impact as the most successful manga of all time (by far), but very hardly it'll be remembered around the world after the time passes. Only Dragon Ball and Pokemon managed to be huge successes worldwide so far, but only because of the animes and the games... they never reached the status of "literature masterpiece".

Answering the op: no, I don't think that One Piece will ever be a historical masterpiece (outside of Japan).
 
NAMELESS

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nehir said:
One Piece is now mainstream more than it has ever been, qnd unfortunately seems that the end is (relatively) near, so I propose this reflection to the community;

Thought history many stories and legends resisted the test of time, mostly because they were influential enough to shape its predecessors. We even hear about the Hero's Journey theory, on how many stories have the same arch of development for the protagonist (only enough, this doesn't seem to be applied to One Piece).

Odyssey, Shakespeare, and many others have gained great notoriety in western civilization, while others stories have had the same impact in Eastern. However some modern stories such as Lord of the Rings are being retold in other formats even almost a century after is publishment and probably omegle will continue so many years after.

Considering One Piece Live Action most recent success, do you believe that maybe One Piece will reach this level and be told and retold on multiple formats decades after it's conclusion?

Thanks for reading.
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It might break a record about longest running show.It will all boil down how good the original plot regarding the one piece,void century and celestial dragons is.We have been here for over 20 years,the wait better pay off.
 
Tai long

Tai long

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No current average joe really cares or have read about the so called master piece you mentioned.

One piece would be a legend among the people who read similar stories (comics/manga). There is actually no literature masterpiece since everyone likes different things and literature is not something with a defined criterteria like science
 
Moegara

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Tai long said:
No current average joe really cares or have read about the so called master piece you mentioned.

One piece would be a legend among the people who read similar stories (comics/manga). There is actually no literature masterpiece since everyone likes different things and literature is not something with a defined criterteria like science
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There are universally recognized timeless classic masterpieces in literature.

It can be criticized and praised, even though I do agree no one is forced to like said masterpieces, one can still appreciate their objective virtues (which sometimes can only be appreciated for real if taking into account the contextual time, society, language and place it was written in).
 
Tai long

Tai long

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Moegara said:
There are universally recognized timeless classic masterpieces in literature.

It can be criticized and praised, even though I do agree no one is forced to like said masterpieces, one can still appreciate their objective virtues (which sometimes can only be appreciated for real if taking into account the contextual time, society, language and place it was written in).
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Mention a universal classic and please don’t mention random old Shakespeare book that no one has read
 
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