Speculations Akainu The Last Hope

#24
Akainu scarred the MC that’s all that needs to be said, not just physically either, he killed 2 birds with 1 stone leaving him traumatized.

He’s got it going everything for him , from the FA title to the importance/lethalness of how magma has been portrayed.
Not to mention making Teach and his gang shit themselves, they could only talk trash to Akainu calling him a “prick” once he’s out of their sight.

“magma pool” is a Yonko + their fans biggest PTSD triggers

Not to mention Nika god Luffy who’s stronger than a Yonko with his ancient awakened powers is only putting not even the strongest admiral only in a dazed state, coming off the victory of clowning and ensuring the victory against the strongest portrayed yonko at the time.

~ Admirals haven’t even gone all out yet
 
#25
I know it’s poorly done trolling, but it’s always amusing when people place higher standards on the Admirals.
It just shows that on some level they either think less of the Yonko or more highly of the Admirals when the latter are always expected to look better by default.
:arnoling:
 
#28
I know it’s poorly done trolling, but it’s always amusing when people place higher standards on the Admirals.
It just shows that on some level they either think less of the Yonko or more highly of the Admirals when the latter are always expected to look better by default.
:arnoling:
I won’t even lie, they be having high expectations for admirals even higher than ours, literally claiming Kizaru should be able to speed blitz G5 Luffy within seconds

something not even the strongest Yonko could perform.
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In 2 piece Kizaru’s lost, in original piece both are down at the same time.
 
#29
Is Akainu the last hope for Marine fans and story lovers? Personally I have subscribed to the notion that Admirals = Yonkos
If you are a story lover, how could you subscribe to the admiral = yonko notion?

The story is about a pirate's treasure, the protagonist and his team are pirates, the "strongest" title holders are pirates, etc etc. In Oda's own words, "One Piece is a story of Luffy fighting yonkos". How could the side characters (admirals) be equal to the strongest pirates in the story?

If you look at the story, the yonkos are a set of very special characters.
WB = WSM, Roger's equal
Kaido = WSC
Shanks = Protagonist's idol, rival to WSS and Oda's self inert
Luffy = Protagonist
Blackbeard = Final Antagonist
BM sucks though because Oda cant write strong females. She still has AdCoC unlike any admirals.

That said, if you stop comparing admirals to yonkos, they didnt disappoint. Greenbull proved that admirals are significantly stronger than yonko commanders. Kizaru proved he can effortlessly beat CoC-less G4 which was strong enough to beat a YC1. Kuzan froze Blackbeard commanders and wasnt scared to fight a yonko crew alone. Lower your expectations of Akainu, he will be fine.
 
#31
If you are a story lover, how could you subscribe to the admiral = yonko notion?

The story is about a pirate's treasure, the protagonist and his team are pirates, the "strongest" title holders are pirates, etc etc. In Oda's own words, "One Piece is a story of Luffy fighting yonkos". How could the side characters (admirals) be equal to the strongest pirates in the story?

If you look at the story, the yonkos are a set of very special characters.
WB = WSM, Roger's equal
Kaido = WSC
Shanks = Protagonist's idol, rival to WSS and Oda's self inert
Luffy = Protagonist
Blackbeard = Final Antagonist
BM sucks though because Oda cant write strong females. She still has AdCoC unlike any admirals.

That said, if you stop comparing admirals to yonkos, they didnt disappoint. Greenbull proved that admirals are significantly stronger than yonko commanders. Kizaru proved he can effortlessly beat CoC-less G4 which was strong enough to beat a YC1. Kuzan froze Blackbeard commanders and wasnt scared to fight a yonko crew alone. Lower your expectations of Akainu, he will be fine.
Yeah but generally the main enemy of a pirate is the navy/marine, other pirates are only rivals.
 
#32
If you are a story lover, how could you subscribe to the admiral = yonko notion?

The story is about a pirate's treasure, the protagonist and his team are pirates, the "strongest" title holders are pirates, etc etc. In Oda's own words, "One Piece is a story of Luffy fighting yonkos". How could the side characters (admirals) be equal to the strongest pirates in the story?

If you look at the story, the yonkos are a set of very special characters.
WB = WSM, Roger's equal
Kaido = WSC
Shanks = Protagonist's idol, rival to WSS and Oda's self inert
Luffy = Protagonist
Blackbeard = Final Antagonist
BM sucks though because Oda cant write strong females. She still has AdCoC unlike any admirals.

That said, if you stop comparing admirals to yonkos, they didnt disappoint. Greenbull proved that admirals are significantly stronger than yonko commanders. Kizaru proved he can effortlessly beat CoC-less G4 which was strong enough to beat a YC1. Kuzan froze Blackbeard commanders and wasnt scared to fight a yonko crew alone. Lower your expectations of Akainu, he will be fine.
Problem is, Yonko are ultimately silver medalists, they are supposed to be gatakeepers. Shanks could've been Pirate King, Luffy & Blackbeard will be Pirate King candidates and as such, they would be narratively above Navy.

But Kaido, Big Mom, Oldbeard, current Luffy and Blackbeard are NOT at the level where they can become Pirate King by their strength, so they are a fair comparison to other gatekeepers, such as Admirals.

Besides, I don't see how Akainu or Kuzan are any less important than Kaido or Big Mom. Akainu is so far the only character to break Luffy's will, in over 1000 chapters of One Piece. That is exceedingly important achievement, that I don't think any current pirate (except arguably Shanks) compares to.
 
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#37
Problem is, Yonko are ultimately silver medalists, they are supposed to be gatakeepers. Shanks could've been Pirate King, Luffy & Blackbeard will be Pirate King candidates and as such, they would be narratively above Navy.

But Kaido, Big Mom, Oldbeard, current Luffy and Blackbeard are NOT at the level where they can become Pirate King by their strength, so they are a fair comparison to other gatekeepers, such as Admirals.

Besides, I don't see how Akainu or Kuzan are any less important than Kaido or Big Mom. Akainu is so far the only character to break Luffy's will, in over 1000 chapters of One Piece. That is exceedingly important achievement, that I don't think any current pirate (except arguably Shanks) compares to.
Kuzan being less important is shown simply by him being Blackbeard's subordinate. Blackbeard and Akainu are proper antagonists to Luffy in their respective factions. But story-wise, both of them will be gatekeepers for One Piece itself; the ultimate evil are the Gorosei, and they will be the main power of the World Government, and are the only ones in the WG/Navy side - aside for Akainu perhaps - who can be logically expected to have the Conqueror's Haki.

Kizaru was never going to have Conqueror's, he is simply too happy with following orders. Too much of a tool.
 
#38
If you are a story lover, how could you subscribe to the admiral = yonko notion?

The story is about a pirate's treasure, the protagonist and his team are pirates, the "strongest" title holders are pirates, etc etc. In Oda's own words, "One Piece is a story of Luffy fighting yonkos". How could the side characters (admirals) be equal to the strongest pirates in the story?

If you look at the story, the yonkos are a set of very special characters.
WB = WSM, Roger's equal
Kaido = WSC
Shanks = Protagonist's idol, rival to WSS and Oda's self inert
Luffy = Protagonist
Blackbeard = Final Antagonist
BM sucks though because Oda cant write strong females. She still has AdCoC unlike any admirals.

That said, if you stop comparing admirals to yonkos, they didnt disappoint. Greenbull proved that admirals are significantly stronger than yonko commanders. Kizaru proved he can effortlessly beat CoC-less G4 which was strong enough to beat a YC1. Kuzan froze Blackbeard commanders and wasnt scared to fight a yonko crew alone. Lower your expectations of Akainu, he will be fine.
They're still above Mihawk

You can downplay Admirals like you want,
Oda gave them better portrayal and feats than Mihawk

Mihawk quits vs Vista who's below Jozu
Mihawk can't beat pre ts Luffy while Admirals could
Mihawk is Buggy's underling while Kuzan is under Teach
Mihawk paired with Croco as equal partners while Admirals can only be equal partners with top tiers not weaklings or someone who's not top tier
 
#39
If you are a story lover, how could you subscribe to the admiral = yonko notion?

The story is about a pirate's treasure, the protagonist and his team are pirates, the "strongest" title holders are pirates, etc etc. In Oda's own words, "One Piece is a story of Luffy fighting yonkos". How could the side characters (admirals) be equal to the strongest pirates in the story?

If you look at the story, the yonkos are a set of very special characters.
WB = WSM, Roger's equal
Kaido = WSC
Shanks = Protagonist's idol, rival to WSS and Oda's self inert
Luffy = Protagonist
Blackbeard = Final Antagonist
BM sucks though because Oda cant write strong females. She still has AdCoC unlike any admirals.

That said, if you stop comparing admirals to yonkos, they didnt disappoint. Greenbull proved that admirals are significantly stronger than yonko commanders. Kizaru proved he can effortlessly beat CoC-less G4 which was strong enough to beat a YC1. Kuzan froze Blackbeard commanders and wasnt scared to fight a Yonko crew alone. Lower your expectations of Akainu, he will be fine.
Yeah, if not for the fact that Garp and Sengoku completely overthrow this notion, that the final enemy is not a pirate, that Akainu vs Luffy is sure (for all but some downplayers), that Kuzan fought on par with Akainu, and so on.

But again, it is not like you will be convinced, so we'll see.
 
#40
Akainu in his fight against Luffy will at best do a cheapshot. That fight ain't gonna last long. I don't even expect him to have the time of making an attack on the same scale as Blazing Bagua.

Admiral fans should put their hope in Coby.
 
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