Controversial Was Rocks planned?
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Neither was planned. Oda retcons just as much as other mangaka and authors, but he’s better than most at hiding it. Part of the reason he leaves so many open questions during every arc, even why he silhouettes so many characters, is to leave himself flexibility to fill the gaps however he chooses much later on.
Ie when Doffy said “try higher” than Sengoku back in 2010 (?), it didn’t mean Oda had imu planned. It was a way of him leaving himself room to add characters “higher” than Sengoku. (And at the time it looked like cp0 might have been those characters)
More than a decade later, he fleshed out the concept of imu. It fits, not because it was planned, but because the hole was so big that it could’ve been filled in a multitude of ways and still vaguely make sense.
This is also why he throws in “certain events” so often without giving any information about what they are, same as what’s happening in egghead as of 11/2024. A “certain shocking event” is about to occur. What it is going to be could be literally anything. Oda might know what it is already, or he might have no idea but will give us half a year of flashbacks to give himself time to figure it out.
It’s a brilliant technique honestly, he’s hacked the serialized story format.
Ie when Doffy said “try higher” than Sengoku back in 2010 (?), it didn’t mean Oda had imu planned. It was a way of him leaving himself room to add characters “higher” than Sengoku. (And at the time it looked like cp0 might have been those characters)
More than a decade later, he fleshed out the concept of imu. It fits, not because it was planned, but because the hole was so big that it could’ve been filled in a multitude of ways and still vaguely make sense.
This is also why he throws in “certain events” so often without giving any information about what they are, same as what’s happening in egghead as of 11/2024. A “certain shocking event” is about to occur. What it is going to be could be literally anything. Oda might know what it is already, or he might have no idea but will give us half a year of flashbacks to give himself time to figure it out.
It’s a brilliant technique honestly, he’s hacked the serialized story format.
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I feel the same about Rocks
I do feel like we could have gotten hints about the crew(3 yonko all being on the same ship is something that should have been majorly hinted at before Levely Arc), but Rocks and his crew are a very interesting addition to OP, and it adds a lot of depth and mystery to an unexplored part of the timeline.
I do feel like we could have gotten hints about the crew(3 yonko all being on the same ship is something that should have been majorly hinted at before Levely Arc), but Rocks and his crew are a very interesting addition to OP, and it adds a lot of depth and mystery to an unexplored part of the timeline.
I believe Imu was planned, aside from Doffy's statements back in MF/Dressrosa, Akainu said this to the Gorosei directly:
The Gorosei are introduced as the "Highest Power in the WG" in the next panel while Akainu accuses them of taking orders from someone higher than them. This directly contradicts the official narrative of the WG back in chapter 793 while Imu was first shown in chapter 903 (almost 3 years between the two chapters).
So yeah, Imu was likely planned since MF. Not sure about Rocks though.
The Gorosei are introduced as the "Highest Power in the WG" in the next panel while Akainu accuses them of taking orders from someone higher than them. This directly contradicts the official narrative of the WG back in chapter 793 while Imu was first shown in chapter 903 (almost 3 years between the two chapters).
So yeah, Imu was likely planned since MF. Not sure about Rocks though.
As if in the beginning??
Both aren't planned I'd say.
But Imu could be planned pretty early compared to Rocks.
The person that is the Teach equivalent during Rogers generation should be on Oda's mind for sometime, cos the story only gives us WB as only rival to Roger during old era who isn't even an actual BAD GUY, and Shiki was just a less relevant guy who's introduction is for movie ...........which keeps another room for another person that was actual Roger adversary to be revealed later on.
And Oda makes that guy to be ROCKS i supposed, without any pre-planned of his backstory which he will only think about later on.
His relationship and ties he has like him being the captain of three OG Yonko etc are only planned much later on.
Both aren't planned I'd say.
But Imu could be planned pretty early compared to Rocks.
The person that is the Teach equivalent during Rogers generation should be on Oda's mind for sometime, cos the story only gives us WB as only rival to Roger during old era who isn't even an actual BAD GUY, and Shiki was just a less relevant guy who's introduction is for movie ...........which keeps another room for another person that was actual Roger adversary to be revealed later on.
And Oda makes that guy to be ROCKS i supposed, without any pre-planned of his backstory which he will only think about later on.
His relationship and ties he has like him being the captain of three OG Yonko etc are only planned much later on.
I guess that Imu was somewhat to be expected, I mean the WG is the big bad evil organization and at the top of it you have 5 guys... Is Luffy going to fight all of them? It was and is more logical to have 1 man (woman) at the peak of the organization like it always happen. The only other possibility was to have BB overthrow the WG before he becomes the final villain but I guess that was discarded (at least with the gorosei format).
About Xebec... Probably at some point Oda decided that BB needed his predecessor too, just like Luffy, even because inherited will is a big theme in OP and just like there is "good" inherited will (Roger, Shanks, Luffy..) there is the "bad" ond (Xebec, BB). Now we have to see if actually Xebec role will be limited to that or if, most likely, he will get new links and relevance to the story (and not just the old legendary evil pirate). It somewhat also serves the purpose to wrap up the "hero of the marines" title of Garp, but I doubt it was planned that much time ago along with it.
About Xebec... Probably at some point Oda decided that BB needed his predecessor too, just like Luffy, even because inherited will is a big theme in OP and just like there is "good" inherited will (Roger, Shanks, Luffy..) there is the "bad" ond (Xebec, BB). Now we have to see if actually Xebec role will be limited to that or if, most likely, he will get new links and relevance to the story (and not just the old legendary evil pirate). It somewhat also serves the purpose to wrap up the "hero of the marines" title of Garp, but I doubt it was planned that much time ago along with it.