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Monkey D Theories

Monkey D Theories

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Jew D. Boy said:
All I care to contribute to this conversation is that, contrary to what some of my militantly conservative family members think, I know my grandparents who survived the Holocaust and lived long enough for me to hear firsthand the horrors they experienced would be perpetually spinning in their graves if they knew what Israel is doing to Palestine, and I believe there’s really no atoning for the compounding sins being committed by Israeli and American politicians alike:halt:
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I'm glad you're speaking out on it.

I feel like everyone in my jewish friend group is part of the whole "Am Yisrael Chai" thing, where we all just support the state out of tribalism without actually thinking critically about what Israel's actually doing.

Honestly the only real place where I express my feelings on this matter is here and on this ultra leftist jewish subreddit.
 
Jew D. Boy

Jew D. Boy

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Monkey D Theories said:
I'm glad you're speaking out on it.

I feel like everyone in my jewish friend group is part of the whole "Am Yisrael Chai" thing, where we all just support the state out of tribalism without actually thinking critically about what Israel's actually doing.

Honestly the only real place where I express my feelings on this matter is here and on this ultra leftist jewish subreddit.
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Believe me, virtually every Jew I know who has heard my dissenting views is keeping a healthy distance from me at the moment, but being ostracized doesn’t make me more inclined to start cheering on the same kind of genocidal, dehumanizing tactics that so many regimes have historically used against us. What REALLY fucking irks me is how willing they all are to conflate Judaism with Zionism, we are not a God damn monolith and plenty of us aren’t going to embrace fascism just because it’s working in our favor this time :stop:
 
Toby D. Dog

Toby D. Dog

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Jew D. Boy said:
Believe me, virtually every Jew I know who has heard my dissenting views is keeping a healthy distance from me at the moment, but being ostracized doesn’t make me more inclined to start cheering on the same kind of genocidal, dehumanizing tactics that so many regimes have historically used against us. What REALLY fucking irks me is how willing they all are to conflate Judaism with Zionism, we are not a God damn monolith and plenty of us aren’t going to embrace fascism just because it’s working in our favor this time :stop:
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The oppressed can become the oppressors at the snap of a finger. That's one of the things that make us humans.
 
Monkey D Theories

Monkey D Theories

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Jew D. Boy said:
. What REALLY fucking irks me is how willing they all are to conflate Judaism with Zionism, we are not a God damn monolith and plenty of us aren’t going to embrace fascism just because it’s working in our favor this time :stop:
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Especially pisses me off because they use the literal exact same logic as antisemites

Pro-Israel jews act like the global jewish people are inseparable from the state of Israel. Israel is the jewish state and therefore must be representative of all jews, according to them. No you can't criticize israel because any criticism of Israel is seen as antisemitism by these people. According to them jews = Israel.

But that's literally the same logic antisemites use when they attack jews because of shit happening in Israel. If Jews = Israel, then why can't we blame all jewish people whenever Israel commits a war crime?

Yet I see basically every mainstream jewish institution play into this narrative by pledging unquestioning support for the state of Israel. There are a few jewish orgs that are anti Israel, like Jewish Voice for Peace. But every time these orgs are brought up on r/jewish, everyone starts shitting on them as being antisemitic. Literally calling a jewish org antisemitic.
 
notAfanboy

notAfanboy

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Monkey D Theories said:
Especially pisses me off because they use the literal exact same logic as antisemites

Pro-Israel jews act like the global jewish people are inseparable from the state of Israel. Israel is the jewish state and therefore must be representative of all jews, according to them. No you can't criticize israel because any criticism of Israel is seen as antisemitism by these people. According to them jews = Israel.

But that's literally the same logic antisemites use when they attack jews because of shit happening in Israel. If Jews = Israel, then why can't we blame all jewish people whenever Israel commits a war crime?

Yet I see basically every mainstream jewish institution play into this narrative by pledging unquestioning support for the state of Israel. There are a few jewish orgs that are anti Israel, like Jewish Voice for Peace. But every time these orgs are brought up on r/jewish, everyone starts shitting on them as being antisemitic. Literally calling a jewish org antisemitic.
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Israeli protesters have gathered outside Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's official residence in Jerusalem, calling on him to resign. Several of the demonstrators broke through barriers that had been erected near the prime minister's home, and scuffled with Israeli police.


https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1720927307152388206?s=20


Need more of this to end this war, ethnic cleansing and genocide of Palestinians.

@NikaInParis @NAMELESS @Sekai Saikyō Mihawk @ArturCantSpeakJapanese @Jew D. Boy
 
NikaInParis

NikaInParis

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notAfanboy said:
Israeli protesters have gathered outside Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's official residence in Jerusalem, calling on him to resign. Several of the demonstrators broke through barriers that had been erected near the prime minister's home, and scuffled with Israeli police.


https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1720927307152388206?s=20


Need more of this to end this war, ethnic cleansing and genocide of Palestinians.

@NikaInParis @NAMELESS @Sekai Saikyō Mihawk @ArturCantSpeakJapanese @Jew D. Boy
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Are they calling for his resignation because of the treatment of Palestinians though?
It has more to do with the fact that he and his regime let the October 7th attacks happen in the first place.
 
notAfanboy

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NikaInParis said:
Are they calling for his resignation because of the treatment of Palestinians though?
It has more to do with the fact that he and his regime let the October 7th attacks happen in the first place.
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Yeah, I think the same.
There are videos where IDF tanks bombed the residential areas in Israel where they suspected Hamas' presence right after the attack.

Too good to be true for Israelis to protest for Palestinians and end this war. But the news headlines seems to indicate that they are against this war.
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Israeli minister says dropping nuclear bomb on Gaza is an option:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveb...n-population-should-go-to-ireland-or-deserts/
 
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Sekai Saikyō Mihawk

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notAfanboy said:
Israeli protesters have gathered outside Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's official residence in Jerusalem, calling on him to resign. Several of the demonstrators broke through barriers that had been erected near the prime minister's home, and scuffled with Israeli police.


https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1720927307152388206?s=20


Need more of this to end this war, ethnic cleansing and genocide of Palestinians.

@NikaInParis @NAMELESS @Sekai Saikyō Mihawk @ArturCantSpeakJapanese @Jew D. Boy
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Netanyahuud is using this genocide to try and cover up his atrocious reign as prime minister. Apart from the far right settler rats, I doubt he has support there
 
Logiko

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One of the symptom of patriarchy: Toxic masculine tropes in media.

For today: The nice guy (For having been this toxic "nice guy" before, this is 100% accurate)

 
NAMELESS

NAMELESS

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notAfanboy said:
Yeah, I think the same.
There are videos where IDF tanks bombed the residential areas in Israel where they suspected Hamas' presence right after the attack.

Too good to be true for Israelis to protest for Palestinians and end this war. But the news headlines seems to indicate that they are against this war.
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Israeli minister says dropping nuclear bomb on Gaza is an option:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveb...n-population-should-go-to-ireland-or-deserts/
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Too close to Israel to nuke Gaza.Radiation would be a hazard to Israel too.This is just bravata.
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notAfanboy said:
israel is deliberately blocking irish and brazilians from leaving gaza because the countries called for ceasefire
https://x.com/playmints/status/1720650710331564254?s=20


Israel is a terrorist state!
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yup and we have Christians here defending Israel like they are victims.I don't blame them.Most here are clueless about the history of Israel.
 
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NAMELESS

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JohnnyBme said:
Nothing about this source shows that.
Seems like this is the work of Irish Embassies in Israel and Cairo. how would the IDF even stop this guy?
Also, nothing about brazilians in the irish times article.. seems like you haven't read anything, took the tweet at face value and called israel a terrorist state. lol
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We have news of Brazilians stuck in Israel.It seems Israel isn't prioritizing them on that evacuation list.
 
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