To this day that is disputed, with the consensus falling on the “probably a mistake” side.
They shot people fleeing in lifeboats. It was not a one off. It was a sustained and directed attack. Ironic that the ones acting like we don't know the full story themselves don't know the full story.

Or maybe.... Maybe, like always, they're just lying, because they don't respect us or anyone else but their fellow cultists.
 
The fact that the Muslim world never speaks out only when it's against a Jewish state is evidence enough. No matter how much sophistry they spin or labels they attach, they despise the Jewish people with a passion.

What about the expulsion of Afghans from Pakistan? Where is the outcry about this?

You are saying completely irrelevant things now. This has nothing to do with religion.

It can be best described as regional issue. Just like some countries would have supported Ukraine against Russia.

When you bring Islam, you talk strictly about religion. Not some protests. Those protests are against a Genocide, which even human right watch and UN calls as an alarming situation, not to convert, stop, or halt the celebrations of your culture or religion.

The protests are not against the Remembrance Day. Plus, the United Kingdom has a history of taking in refugees. Not only Muslim ones. So, the government know better.

Likewise, we have 4 million Afghan refugees in my country. Their culture is not the same. They also complain about a lot of stuff.

To your surprise, USA has stopped 25,000 Afghanis from going back to Afghanistan:


ISLAMABAD: The United States embassy has issued letters to over 25,000 Afghan nationals under the process of relocation to and resettlement in America and shared their names with authorities in Pakistan, diplomatic and other sources told Dawn.

Source

Please try to understand when I say this:

These problems are created by the Western governments. The immigrants, Muslims or not, are not the real issue. The issue is what these Western superpowers have been doing in other countries (wars).


Take your time to understand this.

Dont mix religion in this issue. I can understand how you feel about this because I have experienced this type of scenario from immigrants, even if they are Muslim, the culture plays a big role.

But, big boys take responsibility for their actions. They dont abandon the people who were affected by the war.
It's war at this point. War has always happened. It doesn't matter who shot the first shot. I don't expect Palastine to roll over for Israel, but I also don't expect Israel to allow Palastine to take everything they have.

It's weakness, not strength, to cede your resources to others. It is a position of luxury to provide for everyone else. Britain's economy cannot weather the unmitigated immigration that is currently rampant on our shores.

I have only ever experienced true hatred for my culture from Islamic immigrants. Most Polish, Romanian, and other European ethnic minorities tend to show a respect for our customs. Meanwhile, WHEN I was transitioned, before detransitioned, I was physically assaulted by Muslim men with rocks. But they're peaceful, aren't they? Respectful. It's not their faith.

Oh, and you want the kicker?

Police were too fucking scared to do anything. Because if you go against a brown man you're a racist -- both in their minds and the minds of people like you lot who don't see the injustice, probably just due to your own internal biases.
 
Nah man, it happens so many times that at some point it’s just part of religion. Religion has it pros and cons, to view it as all good is naive
It's not all good but what do you ever expect someone to say in response when you pull some lines out of a 500 page book they literally tend to live and die for? I'm a very liberal person who's Muslim, but even I'm not going to go along with that lol. And I don't find cause to knock other beliefs either, just seems wise to let sleeping dogs lay.
 
They shot people fleeing in lifeboats. It was not a one off. It was a sustained and directed attack. Ironic that the ones acting like we don't know the full story themselves don't know the full story.
Despite you knowing the full story, most historians and militate experts disagree with you

It’s almost as if like I’ve said, it’s disputed
 
The fact that the Muslim world never speaks out only when it's against a Jewish state is evidence enough.
Have you asked a Muslims whether he condemns Holocaust or not?

I do.
Palestine vs Israel can also be brought under regional issue.

If it was a religious war, all Muslims countries would have sent their armies. Guess what, it did not happen in 1948, 67 (?), or 2023.
What else do you want from Muslims?

What about the expulsion of Afghans from Pakistan? Where is the outcry about this?
Pakistan got bailout package from IMF. The economy is in really bad shape. Plus, the floods last year ruined all the crops from the agricultural area.
The refugees were here for 20+ years I think. The war is over, now they can go back to their country.

Plus, the Afghan government is not friendy with Pakistan. They attack our forces on border.
There is another issue of Durand Line (disputed territory near borders).
Again, a different issue and a complex one.
Afghans also smuggle dollar from Pakistan. Recently, a war torn Afghanistan, had better currency than Pakistan. Surely, we had to take steps to solve this problem. All I can say is, the problem is not as simple as the media shows you. The sensational 1.7 million Afghani are being teleportted, by why? There are solid reasons.

And, we are not a developed country like USA or UK. It is a #ucking 3rd world country. Pakistan is the cheapest country to live in.

It's war at this point. War has always happened.
War has always happened.... but in Middle East and South Asia, right? Hence the immigrants from this region.
 
you're painting the USS incident in a weird light:
"Why does everyone who defends Israel act like theyre just uncontrollable wild dogs who lash out and maul anything nearby, but also act like that's a good thing?"

It was wrong, and not a good thing. That's the most non-controversial opinion about it. You think I support it somehow?
That wasn't my quote at all
 
These retired tropes from a decade ago are quite the throwback. I thought they died with the EDL, but I cause some of it lingers.

some London boroughs which have a 0% non-Muslim population -- where Sharia is followed.
What boroughs? I'm a Black Muslim who's been to many parts of London and I'd love to see this; point me in the general direction. Also, elaborate on what you mean by 'Sharia'.

I have grew up in poor neighbourhoods where I saw working class, British Nationals, haranged and harassed out of those neighbourhoods because of Islamic gangs.
Yeah...I don't believe you. Give us a detailed anecdote of how this went down. Were they physically assaulted regularly? What exactly made this gang 'islamic'? Did they have a manifesto of some sort, or was it a number of brown lads who, like many white kids in London, get up to antisocial activities and crimes?

Our police is afraid to combat it, as evidence by the Rotherham sex ring. The lack of real culpability in the murder of Sir David Amess. Among other things.
The police were wrong for that, but in general the UK police are touchy about policies towards people of colour in general, not just Muslims. E.g London has a lot of youth crime and the demographics feature a lot of young Caribbean and African men, yet there is no discriminatory policy targeting them. We also don't lock up every Albanian man because of the sophisticated organised crime network throughout Europe.

Also, Rotherham wasn't religiously motivated. You only find (very few) Pakistani men doing this. Do Arabs, West Africans, Bengalis and Somalis feature in these grooming gang reports? No, they don't.

Those who disrespect the land they live in. Those that have no loyalty, no desire to learn the language, and a true disdain for British law and culture.
Mate, your family origins are outside of Britain so I find your dogmatic nationalism to be quite odd. I also get the feeling you are Eastern European. Anyway, I assume you consider yourself to be British? If so, I am just as British as you despite our families coming from elsewhere. Thinking everyone has to ardently support the current laws and customs of the day is silly and has no bearing on this. Though, I'm happy to concede this point if you accept you're not British since I don't care for it.

I have noticed a clear connection between Islamic zealotry and anti-British sentiment amongst UK-based Muslims.
Killing hundreds of thousands of Muslims the past 2 decades kinda does that to you.

They stare at the world from a position where they've never had to watch as their communities are overtaken and then denigrated in the name of a foreign ideology that is antithetical to the way of life of those who are living there.
Cringe
 
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