Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

The pope welcomes trans people into the catholic church.

"Yes........ but"

Well, this is good anyway, a step in the right direction at least

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

The pope welcomes trans people into the catholic church.

This will break the Catholic church
It's SOOOOOOO over for the world's oldest continuous mafia cult

Spoiler

to clarify: I am talking about the Catholic church as an organization, I'm not calling believers of Catholicism cult members or mafiosi

 

[Toby D. Dog]

This will break the Catholic church
It's SOOOOOOO over for the world's oldest continuous mafia cult

Spoiler

to clarify: I am talking about the Catholic church as an organization, I'm not calling believers of Catholicism cult members or mafiosi

My dad is probably fuming rn.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

My dad is probably fuming rn.

Don't tell him then.

 

[Zolo]

Who are you rooting for in ww3 ?

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This will break the Catholic church
It's SOOOOOOO over for the world's oldest continuous mafia cult

Spoiler

to clarify: I am talking about the Catholic church as an organization, I'm not calling believers of Catholicism cult members or mafiosi

Pagan is a way

 

[Okamakama]

And so the pope has decreed -- the church shall fall to sin.

Sad days for Roman Catholics.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

And so the pope has decreed -- the church shall fall to sin.

Sad days for Roman Catholics.

The Catholic church wants to stay relevant. They will do anything to not return to insignificance.
The Catholic church is like the zombie of an empire that refuses to die.

 

[Okamakama]

The Catholic church wants to stay relevant. They will do anything to not return to insignificance.
The Catholic church is like the zombie of an empire that refuses to die.

It's true. The thing is, this will just drive away their adherents.
Those who still appreciate the archaism of their rules will be pushed away.
It's like a form of diversification that ignores the 'loyal fanbase' so to speak.
It's doomed to fail and add another nail to their coffin.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

It's true. The thing is, this will just drive away their adherents.
Those who still appreciate the archaism of their rules will be pushed away.
It's like a form of diversification that ignores the 'loyal fanbase' so to speak.
It's doomed to fail and add another nail to their coffin.

Go and found your own Catholic branch then. People disagree on religious matters all the time.
Personally, I never understood what Rome has to do with Jesus but to each their own I guess

 

[Fn Lucci]

The order itself is remarkably convoluted. I think Francis frankly always sounds like a great guy and it's kind of amazing how they don't just shred his ass apart considering how he's always leaning in this direction and it's so sure to be reviled.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

The Catholic Church has always been a cesspool for pedophilia and corruption. This is one of the only good things they’ve ever done.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

The Catholic Church has always been a cesspool for pedophilia and corruption. This is one of the only good things they’ve ever done.

Could be said about any organised society where adults have power over minors

 

[straightforward]

fuck WHO

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

fuck WHO

What did WHO do?

 

[straightforward]

What did WHO do?

they've put together a couple of documents that, if ratified/accepted by the member states' head of states (soon-ish), will allow the head of WHO to randomly announce 'pandemics' and order the member states to follow whatever tyrannical 'safety measures' he/she comes up with. all the measures will be mandatory for the member states, if a member state does not comply they'll get punished w/sanctions

they removed the bits that state they need to consider people's rights, dignity and freedoms when making such decisions

oh and no one can be held accountable for such decisions either

basically these documents would grant one person colossal power over 190+ countries which is unprecedented

i should find some article about this to link it here...

 

[NAMELESS]

It's true. The thing is, this will just drive away their adherents.
Those who still appreciate the archaism of their rules will be pushed away.
It's like a form of diversification that ignores the 'loyal fanbase' so to speak.
It's doomed to fail and add another nail to their coffin.

Mate,the Church survived many heretic and corrupt Popes in its history.All will be well.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

they've put together a couple of documents that, if ratified/accepted by the member states' head of states (soon-ish), will allow the head of WHO to randomly announce 'pandemics' and order the member states to follow whatever tyrannical 'safety measures' he/she comes up with. all the measures will be mandatory for the member states, if a member state does not comply they'll get punished w/sanctions

they removed the bits that state they need to consider people's rights, dignity and freedoms when making such decisions

oh and no one can be held accountable for such decisions either

basically these documents would grant one person colossal power over 190+ countries which is unprecedented

i should find some article about this to link it here...

WHO gets to decide insteag of governments? You have a source for this?
Because if that's what they're planning this is the first step towards a real life world government.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Could be said about any organised society where adults have power over minors

It's not only pedophilia, but all their crimes throughout their history. Half (or maybe more) of the popes that have ever existed were perverted freaks and sometimes incestuous weirdos. Now that they have less political power things are relatively better than before but you still have rampant pedophilia which has been concealed by the church itself. Even Francis (who is supposed to be the nice liberal pope) has a history of covering for pedophiles.

 

[straightforward]

WHO gets to decide insteag of governments? You have a source for this?

heard it in a podcast and saw some highlighted bits. i will try to find the papers and look up the exact wording... when i do i will post them here. maybe this weekend as i need to work atm

in my country, the papers were sent to the national office that is responsible for tackling human rights' issues in the country but the office forwarded the documents to the ministry of health, claiming it's not in their competency (they probably just chickened out). of course the ministry has not released any official statements yet

Because if that's what they're planning this is the first step towards a real life world government.

yes. in the podcast that i listened to they showed some paragraphs that state the WHO decisions/mandates overpower those of the local government/constitution

 

[Toby D. Dog]

heard it in a podcast and saw some highlighted bits. i will try to find the papers and look up the exact wording... when i do i will post them here. maybe this weekend as i need to work atm

in my country, the papers were sent to the national office that is responsible for tackling human rights' issues in the country but the office forwarded the documents to the ministry of health, claiming it's not in their competency (they probably just chickened out). of course the ministry has not released any official statements yet



yes. in the podcast that i listened to they showed some paragraphs that state the WHO decisions/mandates overpower those of the local government/constitution

I haven't seen anything of the sort. Even if this is the case you overestimate the power that the UN has. The UN doesn't have the power to sanction other countries unless the EU, America, or China implement them themselves.