Controversial General Political Discussion

[Monkey D Theories]

You are so full of shit.Homosexuality is a sin according to our beliefs and we are all sinners.God hates sin,but loves the sinners themselves. Homosexuals are welcome just like anyone else,but they need to live a celibacy if they want to live according to the scriptures.
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The left is full of atheist that just want to attack religion whenever they can.
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Back in the day,Christians used to be behead by the Romans for exercising their fate.But i don't think someone that is related to the people that just blindly followed some genocidal lunatic would get what bravery is or isn't.
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It isn't.They just want to attack Christians and make them go against their scriptures.Why aren't they doing the same to Muslims?
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gaslighting 101
you are a black belt at this
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Ignorant kid probably doesn't even know about the Sedevacantism movement.
https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Sedevacantism

The laws of Leviticus only apply to Jews that lived in the theocracy prescribed by Leviticus. A theocracy that no longer exists.

If Christians don’t keep kosher or follow much of the over 600 mitzvot, hyper focusing on homosexuality as being sinful doesn’t come from any deep analysis of the Bible, but rather simple homophobia.

 

[NAMELESS]

The laws of Leviticus only apply to Jews that lived in the theocracy prescribed by Leviticus. A theocracy that no longer exists.

If Christians don’t keep kosher or follow much of the over 600 mitzvot, hyper focusing on homosexuality as being sinful doesn’t come from any deep analysis of the Bible, but rather simple homophobia.

Did you ever read the bible?Forget the old testament.Homosexuality is mentioned in the new testament and its a sin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_the_New_Testament
Christians follow the new testament.The old testament if there for reference of where we came from.
Romans 1:26-27
Saint Paul writing his Epistles
Epistle to the Romans 1:26–27

For this reason [viz. idolatry], God gave them up to passions of dishonor; for even their females exchanged the natural use for that which is contrary to nature, and likewise also the males, having left the natural use of the female, were inflamed by their lust for one another, males with males, committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the recompense which was fitting for their error.​

1 Corinthians 6:9-10

King James Version (1611): "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind"​

King James Version (1611): "Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine"
Jude 1:7

King James Version (1611): "Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."​

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Did you actually read this?

No, he obviously speed reads his links to sound smart not knowing it makes him look even dumber

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Did you ever read the bible?

yes

including the New Testament

Did you ever read the bible?Forget the old testament.Homosexuality is mentioned in the new testament and its a sin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_the_New_Testament
Christians follow the new testament.The old testament if there for reference of where we came from.

Yeah but none of that stuff comes from Jesus, so I don’t know why y’all are so fixated on it.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

The laws of Leviticus only apply to Jews that lived in the theocracy prescribed by Leviticus. A theocracy that no longer exists.

If Christians don’t keep kosher or follow much of the over 600 mitzvot, hyper focusing on homosexuality as being sinful doesn’t come from any deep analysis of the Bible, but rather simple homophobia.

No dude, eating pork is just as bad as being gay, both are banned in the Bible you damn sinners.
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The old testament if there for reference of where we came from.

You came from the people of Israel? So you are Jewish?

 

[NAMELESS]

yes

including the New Testament




Yeah but none of that stuff comes from Jesus, so I don’t know why y’all are so fixated on it.

So the words of apostle Paul don't come from Jesus?Are you real?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

the natural use of the female

Bro this sounds terrible

 

[NAMELESS]

No dude, eating pork is just as bad as being gay, both are banned in the Bible you damn sinners.
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You came from the people of Israel? So you are Jewish?

We follow Jesus,who was a Jew and we inherited some doctrines from Judaism.Your bait attempt failed.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

So the words of apostle Paul don't come from Jesus?Are you real?

do y’all believe Paul speaks on behalf of Jesus and that everything he says should be taken as the word of God?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Every forum has that one weirdo who responds with Bible quotes

 

[NAMELESS]

@Monkey D Theories Theories read this https://www.britannica.com/biography/Saint-Paul-the-Apostle
I don't think you are arguing in bad faith,i think you just lack information.
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do y’all believe Paul speaks on behalf of Jesus and that everything he says should be taken as the word of God?

Half of the new testament was written by Paul.You lack insight about Christianity. Read the link i sent you.
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Yeah but none of that stuff comes from Jesus, so I don’t know why y’all are so fixated on it.

Jesus never wrote scripture.The apostles did.
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Every forum has that one weirdo who responds with Bible quotes

Every forum has that mom basement dweller troll.Get a life,Solis.You said it yourself that worstgen was ruining your life.

 

[Malakhith]

Afaik, they want gays to have the right for civil marriage. At best i know about radical lgbt people denouncing churches who are against this as homophobic

I can provide some links but they would be in Portuguese. I will use Brasil since we are one of the largest catholic populations in the world (if not the largest). In Brazil the marriage of gay people are not in contention for a long time. People in here have the right to change names and identification and be recognized by their chosen gender as well as marrying with anyone of legal age (as long as it don't cross some lines). If you want to have a civil marriage with your chosen partner this is not a issue.

The issue we have now is with gay people demanding churchs to celebrate marriages. Since the last decade we have some projects to try and protect our religion views (this project was archived but our supreme court assured the right for civil marriage and, at the same time, protected our religious beliefs). This issue is not caused by some sort of lack of protection by our laws or people denying some rights but just by leftists desire to corrupt our religion and try to force churchs to celebrate those marriages. One of the last attempts was last year when they were attacked for not agreeing with that. So, no. It's not about denying some civil rights or anything like that. Is about trying to humiliate religious people and force them to do things that goes against their views.

 

[NAMELESS]

I can provide some links but they would be in Portuguese. I will use Brasil since we are one of the largest catholic populations in the world (if not the largest). In Brazil the marriage of gay people are not in contention for a long time. People in here have the right to change names and identification and be recognized by their chosen gender as well as marrying with anyone of legal age (as long as it don't cross some lines). If you want to have a civil marriage with your chosen partner this is not a issue.

The issue we have now is with gay people demanding churchs to celebrate marriages. Since the last decade we have some projects to try and protect our religion views (this project was archived but our supreme court assured the right for civil marriage and, at the same time, protected our religious beliefs). This issue is not caused by some sort of lack of protection by our laws or people denying some rights but just by leftists desire to corrupt our religion and try to force churchs to celebrate those marriages. One of the last attempts was last year when they were attacked for not agreeing with that. So, no. It's not about denying some civil rights or anything like that. Is about trying to humiliate religious people and force them to do things that goes against their views.

The Chinese have the largest catholic population i believe.
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I can provide some links but they would be in Portuguese. I will use Brasil since we are one of the largest catholic populations in the world (if not the largest). In Brazil the marriage of gay people are not in contention for a long time. People in here have the right to change names and identification and be recognized by their chosen gender as well as marrying with anyone of legal age (as long as it don't cross some lines). If you want to have a civil marriage with your chosen partner this is not a issue.

The issue we have now is with gay people demanding churchs to celebrate marriages. Since the last decade we have some projects to try and protect our religion views (this project was archived but our supreme court assured the right for civil marriage and, at the same time, protected our religious beliefs). This issue is not caused by some sort of lack of protection by our laws or people denying some rights but just by leftists desire to corrupt our religion and try to force churchs to celebrate those marriages. One of the last attempts was last year when they were attacked for not agreeing with that. So, no. It's not about denying some civil rights or anything like that. Is about trying to humiliate religious people and force them to do things that goes against their views.

W post.I should have mentioned what is going on in Brazil,but i assume they just wouldn't give a fuck since they don't view us a part of the West.
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yes

including the New Testament




Yeah but none of that stuff comes from Jesus, so I don’t know why y’all are so fixated on it.

Doubting the words of the apostles is a Heresy btw. They are our only source to the gospel of Jesus.

 

[Malakhith]

The Chinese have the largest catholic population i believe.

I really don't know.

W post.I should have mentioned what is going on in Brazil,but i assume they just wouldn't give a fuck since they don't view us a part of the West.

I think it's better to use Brazil because, in terms of actual laws, we have some of the most robust protection to LGBT people. They are protected and we have laws in place to punish discrimination.
The only reason why someone would try to force a church to celebrate the wedding when even the actual Pope said that homosexuality is a sin, but not a crime, sounds incredible like petty revenge to me.

 

[NAMELESS]

do y’all believe Paul speaks on behalf of Jesus and that everything he says should be taken as the word of God?

As per Christian Cannon,the words of the apostles can't be doubted.
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I really don't know.

I think it's better to use Brazil because, in terms of actual laws, we have some of the most robust protection to LGBT people. They are protected and we have laws in place to punish discrimination.
The only reason why someone would try to force a church to celebrate the wedding when even the actual Pope said that homosexuality is a sin, but not a crime, sounds incredible like petty revenge to me.

It is.I know Solis is a troll,but i'm starting to think this MonkeyD guy is being prejudiced against Christians too.

 

[Zenos7]

Legally,they indirectly would.Read that text,it explains the judicial problems that would arise with it.They would claim discrimination and sue churches.

I did Read it. Which is why i questioned you reading it in the first place lmao

 

[NAMELESS]

I did Read it. Which is why i questioned you reading it in the first place lmao

Then why question it.Who would be so dumb as to link something they didn't read?The article is clear in explaining the judicial implications of this.This isn't as simple as you people think.

 

[Zenos7]

I can provide some links but they would be in Portuguese. I will use Brasil since we are one of the largest catholic populations in the world (if not the largest). In Brazil the marriage of gay people are not in contention for a long time. People in here have the right to change names and identification and be recognized by their chosen gender as well as marrying with anyone of legal age (as long as it don't cross some lines). If you want to have a civil marriage with your chosen partner this is not a issue.

The issue we have now is with gay people demanding churchs to celebrate marriages. Since the last decade we have some projects to try and protect our religion views (this project was archived but our supreme court assured the right for civil marriage and, at the same time, protected our religious beliefs). This issue is not caused by some sort of lack of protection by our laws or people denying some rights but just by leftists desire to corrupt our religion and try to force churchs to celebrate those marriages. One of the last attempts was last year when they were attacked for not agreeing with that. So, no. It's not about denying some civil rights or anything like that. Is about trying to humiliate religious people and force them to do things that goes against their views.

Ty will look at this later.

Forcing churches to wed gay people is against freedom of religion. Let churches be churches if civil marriage is a thing. And if you are a gay catholic, well tough luck.
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Doubting the words of the apostles is a Heresy btw.

Thats not a good thing

 

[NAMELESS]

Ty will look at this later.

Forcing churches to wed gay people is against freedom of religion. Let churches be churches if civil marriage is a thing. And if you are a gay catholic, well tough luck.
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Thats not a good thing

There are gay priests!how is that thought luck?They just need to live in celibacy(which is something they are supposed to do anyway).

 

[Zenos7]

force a church to celebrate the wedding

Is this about clergy wedding gays or just like with nameless link about the church being booked as a location for that?
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There are gay priests?how is that thought luck?They just need to live in celibacy(which is something they are supposed to do anyway).

Gay catholics, not gay priests
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Then why question it.Who would be so dumb as to link something they didn't read?The article is clear in explaining the judicial implications of this.This isn't as simple as you people think.

Because the link you provided didnt support your claims really. And your description of it kinda sucks as well