ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1099: PACIFISTA
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No lol, it was Kuma himself that made the decision. Bonney already knew about him being the source of the clone project. What she is interrogating VP here is about him losing his memories:
I was talking about this panel
That can, in light of recent events, be reinterpreted as Vegapunk subliminaly offering the idea of Kuma removing his memories from his body.
He would have become the WG's weapon and source of clones anyway according to the original plans. But Saturn's involvment stripped him of his memories
Where did I say Bonney didn't know about it? Random lol
I was talking about this panel
That can, in light of recent events, be reinterpreted as Vegapunk subliminaly offering the idea of Kuma removing his memories from his body.
He would have become the WG's weapon and source of clones anyway according to the original plans. But Saturn's involvment stripped him of his memories
I was talking about this panel
That can, in light of recent events, be reinterpreted as Vegapunk subliminaly offering the idea of Kuma removing his memories from his body.
He would have become the WG's weapon and source of clones anyway according to the original plans. But Saturn's involvment stripped him of his memories
You specifically stated it wasnt Kuma's decision, Im saying it was based on that Panel. Bonney KNEW that her father agreed to create pacifista, she DIDNT know why he would erase his own mind. She blamed VP.
VP in turn tells her it was his own decision and he kept it from Bonney. Why is this hars to get lol
You literally bring about this argument out of thin air lmao
I DID NOT SAY KUMA DIDN'T AGREE TO BECOME A PACIFISTA
I WAS PROPOSING THAT THE MEMORY-WIPE PART OF THE PROCESS WAS DONE SUBLIMINALY BY VEGAPUNK WHO WAS FORCED BY SATURN TO DO IT
Nowhere did I say Bonney didn't know or did know. Nor did I say she didn't know or did know about the memories.
I was solely talking about the way Vegapunk approached the memory wipe and how much of the possible aftermath was told to Kuma
Follow your own advice and read properly
I DID NOT SAY KUMA DIDN'T AGREE TO BECOME A PACIFISTA
I WAS PROPOSING THAT THE MEMORY-WIPE PART OF THE PROCESS WAS DONE SUBLIMINALY BY VEGAPUNK WHO WAS FORCED BY SATURN TO DO IT
Nowhere did I say Bonney didn't know or did know. Nor did I say she didn't know or did know about the memories.
I was solely talking about the way Vegapunk approached the memory wipe and how much of the possible aftermath was told to Kuma
Follow your own advice and read properly
Once again lmao, you did not read my post.
I am talking about the memory wiping. I literally just said to you that Bonney knows about him becoming a Pacifista. What the fuck are you not getting here. Kuma explicitly knows that his memory was being wiped, he uses his powers to wipe it. Theres nothing "subliminal" about it.
Holy shit bro
I am talking about the memory wiping. I literally just said to you that Bonney knows about him becoming a Pacifista. What the fuck are you not getting here. Kuma explicitly knows that his memory was being wiped, he uses his powers to wipe it. Theres nothing "subliminal" about it.
Holy shit bro
Good lord
Did you read the last chapter?
Kuma went to Vegapunk and agreed on his Pacifista project to become a weapon for the government. Memory wiping was not part of the deal at this point at all.
Saturn overhears this and has plans of his own (wipe his memories, in case it's hard to follow)
After this chapter's scene, we get the dialogue between VP and Kuma about memories and VP asking him to please remove his memories so that he can test his hypothesis.
Thus, I proposed that Saturn called Vegapunk after the events of this chapter and while KUma wasn't there and told him he had to wipe Kuma's memories completely.
Vegapunk then chose to do it via a quasi experiment where he wants to "meassure the weight of memories" but in reality he will store Kuma's memories somewhere as a compromise between following Saturn's request and maybe one day being able to put them back into Kuma/show them to Bonney
You literally read my post and went "hmm, how do I add to this without adding anything"
I never went against the thing you keep pointing out.
Did you read the last chapter?
Kuma went to Vegapunk and agreed on his Pacifista project to become a weapon for the government. Memory wiping was not part of the deal at this point at all.
Saturn overhears this and has plans of his own (wipe his memories, in case it's hard to follow)
After this chapter's scene, we get the dialogue between VP and Kuma about memories and VP asking him to please remove his memories so that he can test his hypothesis.
Thus, I proposed that Saturn called Vegapunk after the events of this chapter and while KUma wasn't there and told him he had to wipe Kuma's memories completely.
Vegapunk then chose to do it via a quasi experiment where he wants to "meassure the weight of memories" but in reality he will store Kuma's memories somewhere as a compromise between following Saturn's request and maybe one day being able to put them back into Kuma/show them to Bonney
You literally read my post and went "hmm, how do I add to this without adding anything"
I never went against the thing you keep pointing out.
I had flashback fatigue after the last chapter, and this seems just for completion’s sake, roughly as expected. This King Bekori back-and-forth seems too repetitive. And Dragon remains largely unknown, due to the tight regulation of what topics Oda allows to be talked about.
I hope we will get at least 1 ½ chapters of Egghead before the next break, but I’m not super-hopeful.
But that aside, I’ve been thinking that part of the concept behind Bonney’s name and background might have been the old song, now mostly a children’s song:
“My Bonnie lies over the ocean,
My Bonnie lies over the sea,
My Bonnie lies over the ocean,
Oh, bring back my Bonnie to me.
Bring back, bring back,
Oh, bring back my Bonnie to me, to me.
Bring back, bring back,
Oh, bring back my Bonnie to me.”
Although originally the reason for it in the story would have been “bring back my Ginny to me” and then it got reversed to Bonney saying “bring back my Kuma/daddy to me”. Though apparently “Bonnie” is a word and not a name anyway and can serve as a general theme here. Before the flashback this reference would have been meaningless and trivial.
I hope we will get at least 1 ½ chapters of Egghead before the next break, but I’m not super-hopeful.
But that aside, I’ve been thinking that part of the concept behind Bonney’s name and background might have been the old song, now mostly a children’s song:
“My Bonnie lies over the ocean,
My Bonnie lies over the sea,
My Bonnie lies over the ocean,
Oh, bring back my Bonnie to me.
Bring back, bring back,
Oh, bring back my Bonnie to me, to me.
Bring back, bring back,
Oh, bring back my Bonnie to me.”
Although originally the reason for it in the story would have been “bring back my Ginny to me” and then it got reversed to Bonney saying “bring back my Kuma/daddy to me”. Though apparently “Bonnie” is a word and not a name anyway and can serve as a general theme here. Before the flashback this reference would have been meaningless and trivial.