Hot take:all rapists that rape men are gay.
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They didn't have that word,its an English word. Still gay as fuck and in denial lmfao. Look up Spartan culture. That 300 movie was full of shit.
Spartans had a soulmate basically.
And again, you guys are obsessed with gender politics.
The claim was that romans where gay, as in gay like today.
They were not, they were a hierarchical society were lesser men were fucked in the ass by "better" man.
This is not what homosexuality is considered today.
Unless you guys are saying that bottoms are less men.
 
Spartans had a soulmate basically.
And again, you guys are obsessed with gender politics.
The claim was that romans where gay, as in gay like today.
They were not, they were a hierarchical society were lesser men were fucked in the ass by "better" man.
This is not what homosexuality is considered today.
Unless you guys are saying that bottoms are less men.
I didn't say they were "gay as fuck",Adam did it.Still more common that people would imagine.Gay was never the standard,but it was always a thing.
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I googled that.yeah,such men are gay too.
 
But i am bisexual so you wouldn't be wrong lul

You can justify it as much as you want, it is gay af what they did
I am not saying they were not gay. But at this point you are so up your tree that it useless.

The way they were gay was nothing like today by any standard.
Men are not less human because they take up their ass, nor we have slaves to fuck.
 
Spartans had a soulmate basically.
And again, you guys are obsessed with gender politics.
The claim was that romans where gay, as in gay like today.
They were not, they were a hierarchical society were lesser men were fucked in the ass by "better" man.
This is not what homosexuality is considered today.
Unless you guys are saying that bottoms are less men.
Sexual relationships with same sex partners=homosexual=gay roman=gay like today.
 
I am not saying they were not gay. But at this point you are so up your tree that it useless.

The way they were gay was nothing like today by any standard.
Men are not less human because they take up their ass, nor we have slaves to fuck.
They perceived sexuality different from us,but they still had same sex relationships like people do today.
 
I learned history across 15 years of my education and Rome is one my favourite eras of history. Rome was heavy on gay stuff no matter if it was women women or man man action. Rome was insanely sexually free and open, on equal standing as today sexual stuff is.
nah man you're outright wrong on this

Two Adult men having a relationship was frowned up. The bottom was viewed as a second class citizen like women.

The go to insults at the time were always "lol he's gay". You can find plenty of rumors of Julius Caesar being gay used to discredit him.

The emperor who took a boy wife? Also super controversial and not look good upon by Roman historians.

In fact you ever heard of the "trans emperor"? Well a lot of scholars think that's bullshit, and it's mainly propaganda used to discredit a widely unpopular emperor

Ancient Rome was super homophobic. It's is the ancient equivalent of "Oh I don't mind gay people, but if they're gay around me its a problem" with a little bit of sex slavery, pedophilia and fucked up gender/role dynamics.
 
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