[FNZ] Role Madness One Piece East Blue Part One - Combined Pirate Crew & Bread Hunter Victory!

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Ratchet

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not blindly

like, you've been PoE (you and earlier Sanji) since D1

flavour is only cherry on the top here



Wait a second. Is it my responisibility? Like, have you asked for summary or anything like that? What are you blaming me for here?



Questions like "what do you think of XYZ" followed by nothing?



This has to be the most ironic sentence in this thread.
I don't think you understand what irony means. Again I'm the town doctor - I get there is a janitored role but you ought to have a baseline to lynch through that claim but you're acting like it just doesn't matter.

Firstly, there is value in being within the PoE as a doctor. I wasn't concerned because I was hoping if I did need to claim, that would be enough for me to at least survive the PoE.

Subbing into a game with several thousand posts is not a good spot to be in. I get you like to defer responsibility here but really I'm doing okay considering what I've subbed into. If you were that interested in my solving then you would have made sure I was up to scratch - you're invoking it now to absolve yourself of responsibility.

Also not to toot my own horn but I think I'm probably one of the strongest assets town could have towards the endgame, not just in role but in experience too. Do you disagree?

Like this is the problem, it feels to me like you're just sleepwalking into decisions - youre looking for angles in which you can have things like flavour make the decision for you, all to avoid actually reading me. Sincerely, what on Earth do you expect me to do with this?
 
I don't think you understand what irony means. Again I'm the town doctor - I get there is a janitored role but you ought to have a baseline to lynch through that claim but you're acting like it just doesn't matter.

Firstly, there is value in being within the PoE as a doctor. I wasn't concerned because I was hoping if I did need to claim, that would be enough for me to at least survive the PoE.

Subbing into a game with several thousand posts is not a good spot to be in. I get you like to defer responsibility here but really I'm doing okay considering what I've subbed into. If you were that interested in my solving then you would have made sure I was up to scratch - you're invoking it now to absolve yourself of responsibility.

Also not to toot my own horn but I think I'm probably one of the strongest assets town could have towards the endgame, not just in role but in experience too. Do you disagree?

Like this is the problem, it feels to me like you're just sleepwalking into decisions - youre looking for angles in which you can have things like flavour make the decision for you, all to avoid actually reading me. Sincerely, what on Earth do you expect me to do with this?
If town you could had prevented all of this but you made me duel you first?
How is that townie?
And like I said.
You knew 100% what I was hinting at since yesterday.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Like, you're basically doing nothing for entire game, then throw claim with 1 dude being janitored. you're mad people don't trust you immidiately and start insult them. Like, f off seriously
Insulted? I've called the reasoning/basis garbage and terrible, but I haven't personally insulted anyone. Like you're not even trying to read me - do you honestly think there is anything I can possibly do in this spot that would have you vote elsewhere? No, because you're looking for an out to avoid having to take the responsibility of the lynch onto your shoulders. Probably more indicative of town for you, but it has to be said, it's not a good process.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
If town you could had prevented all of this but you made me duel you first?
How is that townie?
And like I said.
You knew 100% what I was hinting at since yesterday.
How did I make you duel me? If you want to waste your role by killing the doctor, that's on you.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Anyway @Charlie I'll have a reads list posted before the day is over, up to you what you want to do with it. If youd rather convince yourself that you're justified and correct then you can do that, or you can have mr give my input on some things you want me checking before I die and I'm happy to do that. You will need to be specific though, don't just give me some vague "give reads" thing.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
Like I said.
You were egging me on.
I literally told you imma kill you and you said go for it or something.
Trying to reverse psychology me.
Okay, have you got something worthwhile to add or are you just interested in totally making your duel choice look like a good idea? Because it was terrible, about par for the course for you though.
 
Okay, have you got something worthwhile to add or are you just interested in totally making your duel choice look like a good idea? Because it was terrible, about par for the course for you though.
Well it was either you or melkor.
Then yoho outed himself via melkor so chose you.

*shrugs
 
Insulted? I've called the reasoning/basis garbage and terrible, but I haven't personally insulted anyone. Like you're not even trying to read me - do you honestly think there is anything I can possibly do in this spot that would have you vote elsewhere? No, because you're looking for an out to avoid having to take the responsibility of the lynch onto your shoulders. Probably more indicative of town for you, but it has to be said, it's not a good process.
i mean, sorry

is this you being friendly?

maybe you'll understand why flavour solving is bad
incredibly frustrating to be duelled by a terrible player
ou have no concept of strategic thinking
o danger of you improving down the line
I don't bother because of players like you, absolute waste of time
I care more than I should as is to be honest - look at what I'm playing with here. Terrible.
 
Anyway @Charlie I'll have a reads list posted before the day is over, up to you what you want to do with it. If youd rather convince yourself that you're justified and correct then you can do that, or you can have mr give my input on some things you want me checking before I die and I'm happy to do that. You will need to be specific though, don't just give me some vague "give reads" thing.
Well sure. I'd like to know what do you think of Luka and HWHNE specifically, if that's not a problem.
 

Ratchet

The End and the Beginning
i mean, sorry

is this you being friendly?
No, but I mean

1 - how is this quote an insult? Come on, telling you that a process (in this case, solving through flavour) is a bad process isn't even vitriolic, if you can't handle that then jeez.

2 - T-Pein is pretty terrible, yes. He plays for himself and his own survival, he never generates reads and solves through angles and speculation.

3 - Players like you I stand by, see your process through this lol. No real analysis, no critical thinking, just picking a side and finding evidence for it in reverse. It's not a strong process.

4 - Having no concept of strategic thinking isn't an insult, it's just that - you don't consider things like gamestate or motivation or setting up lynches, the idea of playing the long game to you just doesn't happen. Case in point - you didn't even begin to think about seeking claims before making up your mind.

5 - See point 2, T-Pein has been playing for years and he's no different.

6 - I'm not calling you a waste of time, I'm saying the effort of defending myself is a waste of time because any defence I could make would be lost on you.

7 - It *is* terrible, you're attempting to solve the game through flavour.

I mean just look at this. You're more invested in arguing that I'm some awful villain than you are extracting what you can from me. I've told you that I'm willing to work with you and help you out until I'm lynched, and you've ignored that, and proceeded to break down my posts to argue why I'm not being very nice. Let me ask you this - which one of those things is more useful to the game?

It's not good, you complain I'm not playing but shut the door on any co-operation because you're more concerned about your feelings being hurt. Spare me.
 
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