General & Others Luffy and Sanji = Kid and Killer = Roger and Rayleigh

#41
Any person that honest to god parallels Rayleigh with Sanji over Zoro and isn't trolling cannot be helped.

:sanmoji:
Characters like killer, king, beckman, etc can have things in common with both zoro and sanji. At the very least they’re both blonde ladies men

Plus I’m putting zoro’s portrayal as a subordinate directly above theirs. Which I don’t think is too bad
You're a Killer fan? Nice to see someone praise one of the 5 strongest rookies. :cheers:
Lowkey still salty he was the only one of the 5 to not receive a legit power up like the rest of them. Or at least have a respectable opponent
 
#46
Mmmm actually you have a point been saying for a while YC1/RHM are either blond use fire womanizer or smokes while YC2/LHM are fat tankys some of them with ponytails


Like what loda meant by this

The same with King and Queen beckman roo:myman:
I do wonder how oda will have Jinbe keep up cause I honestly don’t know
The swim fruit would be perfect if he didn’t ironically lose his ability to actually swim. Maybe a perfected version of the drugs Hody and gang took

Thats what he actually said if u read the thread
Zorotards can't read:suresure:
Even when I try to praise him and elevate him above “standard” vice captains or right hand men it’s still considered hate somehow
:sanmoji:


Just double checked the list, interestingly he didn’t put Katakuri on any of them… I wonder why he would do that
The big mom pirates don’t have a Rayleigh scopper or Marco jozu equivalent
 
#48
Zorotards can't read:suresure:
@Albino 👑 I fundamentally agree with the thread but Rayleigh was shown as more special case than Oden as he is constantly compared to Whitebeard Garp and Roger himself.

His presence made a Yonko scared and run away and he is more famous than Yonko.
Oden is more like a regular subordinate than Rayleigh tho Oden isn't a regular subordinate either.

Zoro is stronger than Roger come EoS
 
#49
I do wonder how oda will have Jinbe keep up cause I honestly don’t know
The swim fruit would be perfect if he didn’t ironically lose his ability to actually swim. Maybe a perfected version of the drugs Hody and gang took



Even when I try to praise him and elevate him above “standard” vice captains or right hand men it’s still considered hate somehow
:sanmoji:



The big mom pirates don’t have a Rayleigh scopper or Marco jozu equivalent
Honestly, the swim fruit would be amazing. Having access to water attacks on land makes him SO much stronger. But no way is Jinbei eating a devil fruit.
 
#51
Honestly, the swim fruit would be amazing. Having access to water attacks on land makes him SO much stronger. But no way is Jinbei eating a devil fruit.
Maybe chopper can make him a drug like he did bepo. Something that acts like the one that Hody took but better

If he didn’t lose his ability to swim the swim fruit would be badass tho
 
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#53
Off the bat yes zoro us stronger than sanji and always will be at the end of the day. The color spread making it even more obvious since it’s 100% strength based
If that was the case we would have Cracker instead of Katakuri. Vista instead of Marco. Teach instead of Shiryuu(since Aokiji is the strongest). And I would argue that prisioner from Sabaody instead of Bepo (although he is likely stronger when in Sulong).
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Imo I think sanji mirrors many top subordinates while zoro is above even that
Like for example if sanji mirrors “normal” right hand men
  1. King
  2. Rayleigh
  3. Killer
  4. Beckman
  5. Marco
  6. Kuma
Zoro would represent characters characters you would never expect to be subordinates like
  1. Yamato
  2. Oden
  3. Law
  4. Mihawk
  5. Ace
  6. Sabo
Idk if he’d be able to keep up tbh but if Jinbe does he’d be like
  1. Queen
  2. Scooper
  3. Bepo
  4. Roux or crocodile
  5. Jozu
  6. Ivankov
This makes no fucking sense at all.

There is no stronger connection between Roger and Rayleigh than Luffy and Zoro. Same with Kaido and King. Kid and Killer. Whitebeard and Marco. Can't say about Dragon and Kuma though.

Why the hell you have Law as a subordinate? He was never one. And Sabo? Why one wouldn't expect him to be a subordinate?

There is absolutely nothing about Jinbei and those ones you mentioned.
 
#58
Why'd you guys revive this brainrotted thread.


Let's start with the obvious: Zoro has right-hand man portrayal, Sanji does not. Trying to shift Zoro's obvious parallels from one character to another that doesn't fit him doesn't make Sanji take Zoro's parallels just because "he's next in line".

"Oden was a temporary member of the Whitebeard Pirates for a short while and he was stronger than Marco so since Zoro is stronger than Sanji, then Zoro parallels Oden and Sanji parallels the YC1" is not even an argument, is an uncohesive string of sentences.

Zoro's parallels:
Zoro has had some very direct parallels with right hand men like Shiryu, Rayleigh (CoC swordsman recruited first) and King ("I'll never lose", strongest member, built different, etc). Those parallels are based on role, attitude, strength and their relationship with their captains.

Even if there are some YC1s with less of a parallel like Marco, all crews don't need to have the same exact relationship, not all of them are bound to be good parallels, which is a good thing.

Yamato being stronger than King is a matter of opinion, but Yamato, Oden or Ace simply have no parallels on the Straw Hats. Even if one wants to claim Yamato is stronger than King, that'd just mean the Beast Pirates are not a perfect parallel of the Straw Hats, and takes nothing away from King's parallelism of Zoro, and Oda couldn't smack you in the face with this comparison harder if he tried to.

Sanji's parallels:
Sanji has some direct parallels himself: Scopper Gaban (third strongest that wants to compete with Rayleigh yet takes a background place compared to him), Queen (warrior of science and clear-cut stronger after King).

The only thing Sanji has to compare him with any YC1s are superficial stuff like being a ladies man (which isn't a perfect comparison anyway, as one is a ladies man and the other is a simp. Both are not the same), nothing about portrayal.



It's amazing that Albino managed to make anyone eat this un-sustainable comparison between crews (that even goes as far as to put Law among Zoro's parallels) to try and shift Zoro's parallels and elevate Sanji to take Zoro's place in the narrative, but it's still brainrotted.

Peace out.
 
#59
Why'd you guys revive this brainrotted thread.


Let's start with the obvious: Zoro has right-hand man portrayal, Sanji does not. Trying to shift Zoro's obvious parallels from one character to another that doesn't fit him doesn't make Sanji take Zoro's parallels just because "he's next in line".

"Oden was a temporary member of the Whitebeard Pirates for a short while and he was stronger than Marco so since Zoro is stronger than Sanji, then Zoro parallels Oden and Sanji parallels the YC1" is not even an argument, is an uncohesive string of sentences.

Zoro's parallels:
Zoro has had some very direct parallels with right hand men like Shiryu, Rayleigh (CoC swordsman recruited first) and King ("I'll never lose", strongest member, built different, etc). Those parallels are based on role, attitude, strength and their relationship with their captains.

Even if there are some YC1s with less of a parallel like Marco, all crews don't need to have the same exact relationship, not all of them are bound to be good parallels, which is a good thing.

Yamato being stronger than King is a matter of opinion, but Yamato, Oden or Ace simply have no parallels on the Straw Hats. Even if one wants to claim Yamato is stronger than King, that'd just mean the Beast Pirates are not a perfect parallel of the Straw Hats, and takes nothing away from King's parallelism of Zoro, and Oda couldn't smack you in the face with this comparison harder if he tried to.

Sanji's parallels:
Sanji has some direct parallels himself: Scopper Gaban (third strongest that wants to compete with Rayleigh yet takes a background place compared to him), Queen (warrior of science and clear-cut stronger after King).

The only thing Sanji has to compare him with any YC1s are superficial stuff like being a ladies man (which isn't a perfect comparison anyway, as one is a ladies man and the other is a simp. Both are not the same), nothing about portrayal.



It's amazing that Albino managed to make anyone eat this un-sustainable comparison between crews (that even goes as far as to put Law among Zoro's parallels) to try and shift Zoro's parallels and elevate Sanji to take Zoro's place in the narrative, but it's still brainrotted.

Peace out.
Someone like killer or even king and other characters in that partner/vc role have similarities to both zoro and sanji
Zoro is always going to be stronger than Sanji and is luffy’s no. 2 like them but he’s still more special than them


Zoro is basically what of Roger started his journey with oden or if kaido was actually able to “tame” Yamato
Zoro like both odens is not usually the type of person to follow another
 
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