Speculations How was 30 broken bones Zoro able to do what Snitch couldn't?

[CbShadow]

What a huge load of cope, guy is writing his own manga at this point hahahahahah.


Mihawk isn't in Kaido's top 5 because to Kaido's eyes he simply wasn't worth it.

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Shanks split the sky with WB, mihawk admitted inferiority towards him... levels to this.

You're the one pushing headcannon. Kaido was looking for worthy opponent to fight in the battle so he could have his beautiful death yet didn't travel the world seeking strong opponents. Instead he just left to jump off a cliff.


Either Kaido was too scared to go after Mihawk, is a huge plot hole, or his top 5 was just meant for Luffy it doesn't mean much more. Oda did say we can start reading one piece at the beginning of Egghead island and not miss anything.

Mihawk never said he was inferior to WB. He noticed WB grew weaker and he was testing WB strength. WB needed his YC with the strongest defensive power in the crew to protect him from Mihawk.

Just because two characters split the sky doesn't mean that equal. Kaido and Big Mom split the sky but BM was included in his top 5. Kaido and Luffy split the sky before Luffy obtained G5 and Kaido beat me that Luffy.

 

[Cruxroux]

no no he’s not.. lmk when shanks actually loses to lihawk than we can talk..

lmao did shanks ever won?

guess who he fight against Shanks, those duels were only legend due to both parties fighting against each other.

it was legends because shanks fought mihawk not because mihawk fought shanks lol

all we have is his swordsmanship being above Shanks and nothing more….

that’s one aspect which I hope he would be since he carries the was title

So swordsmanship is no haki?
Shanks and mihwak might be fighting without haki lmao

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Shanks and mihwak might be fighting without haki lmao

Makes sense, just look at S-Hawk, sending a Younko flying across an island with nothing but strength, Shanks best feat is asking for help to destroy a ship. Missing one arm really makes a difference.

 

[MUUGEN]

You're the one pushing headcannon. Kaido was looking for worthy opponent to fight in the battle so he could have his beautiful death yet didn't travel the world seeking strong opponents. Instead he just left to jump off a cliff.


Either Kaido was too scared to go after Mihawk, is a huge plot hole, or his top 5 was just meant for Luffy it doesn't mean much more. Oda did say we can start reading one piece at the beginning of Egghead island and not miss anything.

Mihawk never said he was inferior to WB. He noticed WB grew weaker and he was testing WB strength. WB needed his YC with the strongest defensive power in the crew to protect him from Mihawk.

Just because two characters split the sky doesn't mean that equal. Kaido and Big Mom split the sky but BM was included in his top 5. Kaido and Luffy split the sky before Luffy obtained G5 and Kaido beat me that Luffy.

lihawk wasn’t worthy enough nor did he believe he was joy boy, it’s that simple, we do know factually that lihawk never once stepped foot in wano since Kaido reigned supreme there…

& BM was showcased to stalemate Kaido for 3 days straight…

 

[MUUGEN]

Makes sense, just look at S-Hawk, sending a Younko flying across an island with nothing but strength, Shanks best feat is asking for help to destroy a ship. Missing one arm really makes a difference.

I mean that was anime only l-hawk didn’t do that in the manga but he was more impressive than lihawk

 

[Lor D. Coast]

I mean that was anime only l-hawk didn’t do that in the manga but he was more impressive than lihawk

More impressive than *Shanks
Mihawk has the strength and whatever your little brain thinks swordsmanship is, Shanks only has skills.

 

[CbShadow]

I don’t want to have to go pull panels where we have Luffys stating from romance dawn til this day that shanks is the one he wants to surpass which is why he wants to be the PK..



all we have is his swordsmanship being above Shanks and nothing more….

Shanks is not Luffy's end goal. Surpassing Shanks is just a small goal towards a much larger goal. Luffy becoming the PK will place him above Shanks. Luffy doesn't have to fight Shanks to surpass him. PK is not a strength based title.

This swordsmanship argument is dumb and needs to end. The manga stated Mihawk is the WSS, not Shanks so that places Mihawk stronger than Shanks.

Swordsmanship or sword skill is just another way to say fighting skill or combat strength. It's all a character's power, ability and skills that make them stronger in battle. Saying Mihawk has greater swordsmanship is telling us Mihawk is stronger.

 

[MUUGEN]

lmao did shanks ever won?

he didn’t need to he was the one challenged and lihawk never won, that same shanks was also a rookie meanwhile lihawk already carried Yoru the worlds strongest blade…

lihawk goes after his opponents shanks strength was recognized and lihawk couldn’t topple a rookie…

it was legends because shanks fought mihawk not because mihawk fought shanks lol

yawn you sound like a broken record the fights were legend cause both fought each other… WB makes this clear as day not sure how you misinterpret that..

So swordsmanship is no haki?
Shanks and mihwak might be fighting without haki lmao

Viz official translations clearly state better swordsmanship and nothing more than that.

it makes sense how you can sound so stupid and not think anything of it when you’re braindead/

 

[MUUGEN]

More impressive than *Shanks
Mihawk has the strength and whatever your little brain thinks swordsmanship is, Shanks only has skills.

It sure what you’re trying to prove with this so canonically shanks is one of the greatest swordsman in the world with both arms and handicapped himself and is still a top tier in the verse thanks.

 

[MUUGEN]

Shanks is not Luffy's end goal. Surpassing Shanks is just a small goal towards a much larger goal. Luffy becoming the PK will place him above Shanks. Luffy doesn't have to fight Shanks to surpass him. PK is not a strength based title.

This swordsmanship argument is dumb and needs to end. The manga stated Mihawk is the WSS, not Shanks so that places Mihawk stronger than Shanks.

Swordsmanship or sword skill is just another way to say fighting skill or combat strength. It's all a character's power, ability and skills that make them stronger in battle. Saying Mihawk has greater swordsmanship is telling us Mihawk is stronger.

he’s only strong with a sword and nothing more Kaido was the worlds strongest creature with and without his df cause of his haki which needed advcoc/AdvCoA to bypass.
WB was WSM cause of his physical capabilities and df powers being able to destroy the world with or without the quake fruit and minimal haki WB showcased his prowess at Mf while literally dying.

lihawk on the other hand showcased he could not kill a fledgling in Luffy, he could not reach WB, he could not even scratch diamond not could he get past mere YC and a former Shichibukai in croc. These are all factual. These are all canon.

as Luffy states pk is the freest on the sea I never claimed it was tied to strength I’ve stated Luffy has time and time again stated his goal is to surpass shanks and his crew and then his true secret goal which isn’t even being pl to begin with

 

[Lor D. Coast]

canonically shanks is one of the greatest swordsman in the world

2nd best even, Mihawk is the greatest, strongest, most powerful swordsman in the world.
Now you can go back to square 1 and pretend Shanks is the stronger fighter.

 

[Nadel]

my top
Mihawk
roger-wb
kaido-bb- s-hawk
shanks - akainu

 

[Lor D. Coast]

lihawk on the other hand showcased he could not kill a fledgling in Luffy, he could not reach WB, he could not even scratch diamond not could he get past mere YC and a former Shichibukai in croc. These are all factual. These are all canon.

Shanks being called a weakling and refusing to fight a Smoker level jobber is also canon. I guess I won.

 

[CbShadow]

lihawk wasn’t worthy enough nor did he believe he was joy boy, it’s that simple, we do know factually that lihawk never once stepped foot in wano since Kaido reigned supreme there…

& BM was showcased to stalemate Kaido for 3 days straight…

Mihawk doesn't care about Joyboy so that doesn't mean anything.

Kaido didn't leave to fight anyone because he was scared. He only left to fight a old man and jump off a cliff. He determines characters worth in battle. If he doesn't fight then he doesn't know their worth.

We don't know if Mihawk ever went to Wano. Wano citizens never talked about Kaido fighting Marioa Gecko so them not mentioning Mihawk doesn't mean anything.

BM fought Kaido because she came to Wano to seek revenge against Luffy, not to fight Kaido.

 

[CensoredbyWG]

that he's a tier above them. lol
mihawk is already canonically stronger than Shanks.
none of the remaining in the top 5 ever forged black blade. Only mihawk did lol

Canon feats:

Shanks: stopped kaido from going to marineford, split the sky with WB, stopped marineford, negged Kid.

Mihawk: hunting don krieg.

So much for canonically stronger hahahahaha.

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Manga told us early on that Mihawk traveled the world in his small boat. Mihawk is the one who traveled the world seeking strong swordsmans to prove he was the strongest. He even went after Marines to prove his strength.

Yonko on the other hand barely ever leave their territory. Kaido and Big Mom haven't seen each other since their rock pirate days. Kaido only left his territory the fight a weak WB try to stop and for saving Ace. He only ran into Shanks who stopping Kaido from reaching WB. The days believe me yonko traveled the world fighting each other, marines and more are over. That was a lie pushed by fans.

Of course, i suppose that kaido just happened to spawn at sky island prior to falling in front of kid, right?

 

[Cruxroux]

Canon feats:

Shanks: stopped kaido from going to marineford, split the sky with WB, stopped marineford, negged Kid.

Mihawk: hunting don krieg.

So much for canonically stronger hahahahaha.

Canon feats : shanks Lost to lord of the coast lmao.

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he didn’t need to he was the one challenged and lihawk never won, that same shanks was also a rookie meanwhile lihawk already carried Yoru the worlds strongest blade…

lihawk goes after his opponents shanks strength was recognized and lihawk couldn’t topple a rookie…

Yoru wasn't black then lmao. Lol Shanks is the golden boy lmao , yet Oda never gave him a win.

yawn you sound like a broken record the fights were legend cause both fought each other… WB makes this clear as day not sure how you misinterpret that..

Lol , no , Mihawk was already infamous before great pirate era began , didn't ride rogers dick lol.
It's mihawk which is impressive , not shanks lmao.

Viz official translations clearly state better swordsmanship and nothing more than that.

it makes sense how you can sound so stupid and not think anything of it when you’re braindead/

Running away from the question lol.
did they not use haki fight

 

[MonsterKaido]

Read that again and tell me how you feel about it yourself?

1) Kaido was scared of Oden. Kaido's intro was just to hype him. Man never wanted to die. If he wanted to fight strong opponents he should have faced other Yonkos. At the end, it was implied that he was also waiting for Joy Boy (when he said you could not be Joy Boy either).
He wanted to start a war, but never went out? Staying in Wano, for what? Why wait for Joy Boy? Kaido's character was already all over the place.

2) Oda can be a liar, hype bitch, and empty hype creator.
But does it contradict his style so far? He has been like this since forever!

3) But Shanks WiFi haki already destroyed the powerscaling. Blame Oda (or GB for acting like a bi**h). Shanks did the same against Kid. We have never seen CoO being used like that.

No benefit? He made a movie about Shanks and earned a lot of money from that. And it seems readers loved G5 transformation and Luffy's win against Kaido (through a bigger punch).
Let's not go down this rabbit hole.

--Oden fought against weakest version of Kaido that is his dragon mode. That was the first time Kaido was hurt badly , obviously he respects him.

--We have zero idea about what happened between shanks and Kaido other than the fact then had a brief fight. So shanks scarring Kaido away is BS head canon.

--Prime WB avoided fighting fodder marines , BBPs avoided fighting CP0 and backed down ; Prime WB never even once tried to go fight Kaido despite Kaido going on expeditions out of wano etc

--If you are giving shanks win against Kaido simply because Kaido back down , then you should also give Kaido win over Prime WB

--Also why didn't shanks used WIFI haki against Kidd but had to use a named attack? The same named attack which oden tanked well from a stronger fighter and compared to that a much stronger oden got K.O.ed by nameless attack from base Kaido at age 40? Yes oden was distracted what has that to do with oden's endurance?

 

[Cruxroux]

It sure what you’re trying to prove with this so canonically shanks is one of the greatest swordsman in the world with both arms and handicapped himself and is still a top tier in the verse thanks.

Both arm logic again lololololol.
Oda confirmed , Shanks loosing his arm doesn't any of th estrenght

 

[LolonoisZolo]

Read that again and tell me how you feel about it yourself?

1) Kaido was scared of Oden. Kaido's intro was just to hype him. Man never wanted to die. If he wanted to fight strong opponents he should have faced other Yonkos. At the end, it was implied that he was also waiting for Joy Boy (when he said you could not be Joy Boy either).
He wanted to start a war, but never went out? Staying in Wano, for what? Why wait for Joy Boy? Kaido's character was already all over the place.

2) Oda can be a liar, hype bitch, and empty hype creator.
But does it contradict his style so far? He has been like this since forever!

3) But Shanks WiFi haki already destroyed the powerscaling. Blame Oda (or GB for acting like a bi**h). Shanks did the same against Kid. We have never seen CoO being used like that.

No benefit? He made a movie about Shanks and earned a lot of money from that. And it seems readers loved G5 transformation and Luffy's win against Kaido (through a bigger punch).
Let's not go down this rabbit hole.

1) kaido's intro says that he wanted to die so him not wanting to die afterwards is bad
2) true and fair point! Oda is a bitch when it.comes to hype.
3) Shanks Wi-Fi diffing GreenBroccoli is the worst, eventhough it has some kind of explanantion in the sense that Shanks has some special connection to the WG and fighting him goes against the orders so he didn't really break the powerscale because nnoone wants to fight him apparently,is it because of strength or something else, time will tell.

 

[CensoredbyWG]

Yoru wasn't black then lmao. Lol Shanks is the golden boy lmao , yet Oda never gave him a win.

"Never gave him a win" go ask kaido and kid hahahaha

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Canon feats : shanks Lost to lord of the coast lmao.

Sacrificed his arm to groom luffy into fulfilling his destiny*