Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1102 Spoilers Discussion

What will happen to Kuma?


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It's fine if you don't like it, but Nika was teased as far back as Skypiea and then in Thriller Bark Oda speaking about Luffy being Dragon's son, means Oda probably had Kuma seeing Luffy as Nika planned out.

It's fine to hate Gear 5 and Nika because it is a very contoversial decision, but there are a lot of panels from Skypiea that proves Luffy has been set up as a true god who frees people fighting false gods who enslave people.





Everyone is praying for god to save them, and Luffy saves them while shouting "Let the sun shine!"

Nika isn't a retcon, it just took fucking forever to get to it, and it's a very controversial choice.
Cap. Sun God was mentioned with multiple element gods.
Nika was mentioned no where. Let's see the forest god fruit the water god etc
 
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Luffy "irrational" decisions are the reason they reached upto egghead....and besides, there are instances Luffy were rational when it matter the most like vivi/arlong/wano citizens/el.....like I said, agendas drained ur brain so hard that u have forgotten many parts in the manga
It's the plot armour of luffy which beats the main threat.
how oftenly other crew members gets multiple chances against the enemy? ass pull healing ? ass pull magical regeneration?
 
G4 drain makes him run out of haki not fruit powers

Sure but everyone is expecting him to magically get up again straight away to beat saturn

Everyone for certain does not expect him to get up and beat staurn .
Him getting up and beating saturn low on the list for what see all over the place and getting lower ( now we know kuma has bomb in him )
Some want it to happen but they also saying there good chnace that big robot or some other shit happen also .
 
I don't think so Oda is planning on that , he will keep it there to not make luffy too broken.
I did expected Oda to extend luffy G4 duration 3-4 times , but luffy suffers from it again and again.
basic defination of G4 was , Haki blast (Using all at once) combined with peak DF ability mastered. G5 is same with awakening. But awakening is draining in itself and haki is optional in that gear like gear 2.

it's like Unlimited ashura. oda ain't doing that.
g5 is broken but not as broken as kizaru's, fujitora's, Law's or even Bigmom's......they don't have such drawbacks....and Oda puts drawbacks because later to improve otherwise g4 itself is broken to some extent.....the fact that awakening drains too much is what he needs to overcome and only after mastering that he can use awakening for longer periods and haki drain is bullshit concept when haki is literally willpower....g4 drains haki eventhough visually it doesn't look like Luffy massively using haki...
 
Luffy would have died to smoker, don krieg, croc, and lucci without his fruit.
Zoro would have died without swords
Sanji would have died for nothing.

Sanji would beat zoro without sword, luffy would be zoro without swords. Zoro is stronger than sanji, Sanji is not comparable to luffy, Zoro is not the shadow captain, Luffy is lucky and privileged.

Luffy >>> zoro > sanji.
 
Fruit doesn't come with drawback , Luffy uses it in a way which gives drawbacks.
top tiers should be able to fight for days. luffy barely lasts for 20 mins in g4 and 5 mins in g5. Kizaru vs Luffy is prime example.
Thanks for proving my point....Luffy uses the fruit in his "own" way....that gives him drawbacks and he masters it his "own" way to later overcome that drawbacks....

don't count fight in terms of days...Jinbei vs Ace went on for 5 days and they were not top tiers....

and g5 is not 5 minutes...it is more than that....so much back and forth between Luffy and Kizaru has been offpaneled....
 
g5 is broken but not as broken as kizaru's, fujitora's, Law's or even Bigmom's......they don't have such drawbacks....and Oda puts drawbacks because later to improve otherwise g4 itself is broken to some extent.....the fact that awakening drains too much is what he needs to overcome and only after mastering that he can use awakening for longer periods and haki drain is bullshit concept when haki is literally willpower....g4 drains haki eventhough visually it doesn't look like Luffy massively using haki...
Yeah we know some stuff is BS but Oda need it since we not near end of the story and makes thing easier for him lol .
 
It's the plot armour of luffy which beats the main threat.
how oftenly other crew members gets multiple chances against the enemy? ass pull healing ? ass pull magical regeneration?
It is the Oda's way of telling that Luffy gets multiple chances because only he can take them down....and he also tells that any number x 0 = 0 in his word.....and asspulls are because he created asspull drawbacks to Luffy....
when we have other asspulls when he can asspull "goated" endurance feats why not other asspulls.....

only for Kaido, it was remotedly called plot armor
 
It's fine if you don't like it, but Nika was teased as far back as Skypiea and then in Thriller Bark Oda speaking about Luffy being Dragon's son, means Oda probably had Kuma seeing Luffy as Nika planned out.

It's fine to hate Gear 5 and Nika because it is a very contoversial decision, but there are a lot of panels from Skypiea that proves Luffy has been set up as a true god who frees people fighting false gods who enslave people.





Everyone is praying for god to save them, and Luffy saves them while shouting "Let the sun shine!"

Nika isn't a retcon, it just took fucking forever to get to it, and it's a very controversial choice.
I think oda come up with Nika in middle of wano
But Luffy was always meant to be choosen one
And Luffy was meant to be Sun God from the very beginning.




Oda said Nika has ridiculous power but for some reason he is holding back Nika's true power..
Nika has cartoon power. He is inspired from Jerry.
I don't see any reason why Luffy couldn't have just turn Kaido into ball and kicked him into space...
Make it ridiculous and unimaginable.
It will be awesome if Nika treats Saturn like a toy.
 
This rivalry literally keep the fanbase across countries active, yet some wish to make the other feel very bad. What will happen if the abuse is too much and people leave? Enstranged children do not come to save the parent like sanji, they piss on the graves of their parents and say their names in disdain.

Animators, directors grew up just like us. They should be conscious of their power and responsiblity they hold. This glimmer of fire will drenched by a sea of despair if one group is to get their way. Their must be a balance.
 
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