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I would love to write nothing. But the problem is for each post, he adds desinformation, anti science, racism or sexism.. and I just can't let him speak without contradiction.
Can't find the article back but not if you listen to biologist. Genetic variations seems to be more important between two King Pinguins than between two humans.
A lion (specie) or a tiger (Tiger) are not cats, they are felidae (felines), which is a family or a taxon in biological terms.
No, they just have different melanine tones, that's all.
No, race don't exist in the human species.
Yes its absolutely racist. You are being absolutely "racist" mate. And I think you should listen to actual scientist instead of your own mind sometimes.
Still not a liberal dear far rightist. But I'm done explaining basic political notions to you, now rest in ignorance or move on.
Why are you talking about me being in the cult all of a sudden when you are the one denying science and scientific studies to preach your racism ?
Something is weird here lol
Ohhh so that's why you are repeating in circle that I'm a liberal, you are just too lazy to read what I write and understand the difference between a liberal and someone that wants the end of meritocracy.
That explains a lot
Are you seriously comparing scientific knowledge with the bible and narnia here ?
Are you that far gone into radicalism ?
I think you are a bit uninformed on the subject. Maybe because of your obsession with races.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/article/race-twins-black-white-biggs
If you have people of color in your ancestors, there are chances that even if you are white and making a baby with a white partner that you get a black kid. This is the magic of nature.
I was not talking about you per say mate.
Its an exception because of racist bias still existing in society, it will change in time don't worry.
No, just science mate. Before I speak about this subject, I always take care to check the right terms, do the same.
There are no "different genetic groups" in the human race. Unless you want to put the 7 Billions humans in separated boxes, there is no reason to group them in different boxes right now. It might change once our specie split because of space colonization, but not right now.
Only people using the pseudoscientific belief of scientific racism, not for scientists of the 20th century.
I find your obsession of trying to split human into races despite the fact that I demonstrated that there are none, to be very strange.
I'm not talking about usage here, I'm talking about science, therefore the observation of reality. If other people or you want to be racist, that's your and their problems.
Nop
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/article/race-genetics-science-africa
Racism and scientific racism are used as ideology to classifiy and hierachize men mate. That's what you are trying to do here.
The concept of scientific racism was literally used by slave owners to justify slavery and kill of black people...
Authoritarian* leftist are not authoritarians mate. But it's like like I can ask intellectual honesty from you..
No as liberal want to refrain immigration, when we want the opposite
You just can't mate
SO the forum is made of random idiots.. glad to hear what you think about people here lol And yes, when the majority of people are against you for being progressive, there are being a representation of the status co.
On that I agree completely, liberalslike Biden or Cnn or BFM in France and Macron want to keep the status co
So you see people who act like antiliberals and you are saying to them "you guys are the liberals" and you want to be taken seriously ?
Technically there are a little bit worse, between a little bit cryptofascist and complotist if you ask me
No, not conservative, just far right.
Yes, Jordan Peterson is from the alt right
There is no equivalent to this, simply because its a french word that comes from years of militantism. Confusionnism (not to confuse with confusianism) is just the best word to talk about a person creating confusion about political matter to serve personal interests as in english, the word for confusion has the same roots.
So your problem is not a problem of comprehension, its about acceptation
Well on that your are not wrong, its indeed recent relative to our knowledge. The concept of institutional racism didn't begin with the critical race theory. It has roots in the 60'/70'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_racism
W The f*ck ?
Can you be more sexist than that ?
Well, since you don't step in front of clear dissinformation, racism and sexism and you prefer instead treat the guy who is attacking and the guy who is defending the same way like a common liberal ultra centrist, someone has to do it for you dear.
This you ?
Can't find the article back but not if you listen to biologist. Genetic variations seems to be more important between two King Pinguins than between two humans.
A lion (specie) or a tiger (Tiger) are not cats, they are felidae (felines), which is a family or a taxon in biological terms.
No, they just have different melanine tones, that's all.
No, race don't exist in the human species.
Yes its absolutely racist. You are being absolutely "racist" mate. And I think you should listen to actual scientist instead of your own mind sometimes.
Still not a liberal dear far rightist. But I'm done explaining basic political notions to you, now rest in ignorance or move on.
Why are you talking about me being in the cult all of a sudden when you are the one denying science and scientific studies to preach your racism ?
Something is weird here lol
Ohhh so that's why you are repeating in circle that I'm a liberal, you are just too lazy to read what I write and understand the difference between a liberal and someone that wants the end of meritocracy.
That explains a lot
Are you seriously comparing scientific knowledge with the bible and narnia here ?
Are you that far gone into radicalism ?
I think you are a bit uninformed on the subject. Maybe because of your obsession with races.
If you have people of color in your ancestors, there are chances that even if you are white and making a baby with a white partner that you get a black kid. This is the magic of nature.
I was not talking about you per say mate.
Its an exception because of racist bias still existing in society, it will change in time don't worry.
No, just science mate. Before I speak about this subject, I always take care to check the right terms, do the same.
There are no "different genetic groups" in the human race. Unless you want to put the 7 Billions humans in separated boxes, there is no reason to group them in different boxes right now. It might change once our specie split because of space colonization, but not right now.
Only people using the pseudoscientific belief of scientific racism, not for scientists of the 20th century.
I find your obsession of trying to split human into races despite the fact that I demonstrated that there are none, to be very strange.
I'm not talking about usage here, I'm talking about science, therefore the observation of reality. If other people or you want to be racist, that's your and their problems.
Nop
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/article/race-genetics-science-africa
Racism and scientific racism are used as ideology to classifiy and hierachize men mate. That's what you are trying to do here.
The concept of scientific racism was literally used by slave owners to justify slavery and kill of black people...
Authoritarian* leftist are not authoritarians mate. But it's like like I can ask intellectual honesty from you..
No as liberal want to refrain immigration, when we want the opposite
You just can't mate
SO the forum is made of random idiots.. glad to hear what you think about people here lol And yes, when the majority of people are against you for being progressive, there are being a representation of the status co.
On that I agree completely, liberalslike Biden or Cnn or BFM in France and Macron want to keep the status co
So you see people who act like antiliberals and you are saying to them "you guys are the liberals" and you want to be taken seriously ?
Technically there are a little bit worse, between a little bit cryptofascist and complotist if you ask me
No, not conservative, just far right.
Yes, Jordan Peterson is from the alt right
There is no equivalent to this, simply because its a french word that comes from years of militantism. Confusionnism (not to confuse with confusianism) is just the best word to talk about a person creating confusion about political matter to serve personal interests as in english, the word for confusion has the same roots.
So your problem is not a problem of comprehension, its about acceptation
Well on that your are not wrong, its indeed recent relative to our knowledge. The concept of institutional racism didn't begin with the critical race theory. It has roots in the 60'/70'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_racism
W The f*ck ?
Can you be more sexist than that ?
Well, since you don't step in front of clear dissinformation, racism and sexism and you prefer instead treat the guy who is attacking and the guy who is defending the same way like a common liberal ultra centrist, someone has to do it for you dear.
This you ?
i was using cat as to mean felines as a whole not just a domestic cat
tigers and lions are often called big cats so your point on terminlogy here is dishonest
when you cut the context out it looks bad but as said before
she pretty much choses to be in that scenario cause due to her being rich, she has the finnicanial stability to move anywhere at any point of time\
conservative is pretty much mainstream in the right wing right now
with liberals being in the left wing
liberal/left wing/democrat
conservative/right wing/repubilcan
that's how normal people who arent twitter warriors like yourself use the terms
liberal is the position
left wing is the kinda side you on
and democrat is the potitical party
no im to see a guy who always votes liberal not right wing
holds all the same liberal stances as the liberal polticians he votes and then calls him liberal
so no im just calling you what you are in reality
a liberal
and how do you think those differing pigments come about????
perhaps genetics, you acting like the color of a person's skin is like a paint job they do instead of immutable characteristic
The concept of scientific racism was literally used by slave owners to justify slavery and kill of black people...
slavery happened to people because of reglion
the idea of serperate races existed in times without slavery
so what's the excuse
there are literally different tribes in africa alone with different physical traits
such as the pygmy people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygmy...ssociated,Melanesian peoples of short stature.
almost like isolated poplations can cause differing traits as evolution happens over the years
the girl was mixed
to a large degree
and it's clearly the case that the kids look more mixed hence there obivously being a white father
almost like adding a white dad to a already mixed woman would lead to the kids having more percentage
and even then a current photo from the article shows an older pic and the girl nearly passes as black with her skin color
https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/h...e is a real concept,onto race, not even close.
he existence of biological races is that African Americans have more health problems than White Americans: more likely to have high blood pressure, disproportionately affected by obesity, and at an increased risk for diabetes. But given that there is much more genetic diversity within African Americans than between them and White Americans, it’s unlikely that the answer simply lies in their DNA. As a parallel, single men are more likely to die of heart disease than their married counterparts, but genes don’t make us married or single. If Black was a biological race and if hypertension was only genetic, we would expect Black people all over the world to have the same risk for it, but they don’t. While hypertension is more prevalent among African Americans than in White Americans, the rate in sub-Saharan Africans is lower than either!
Racial health disparities within countries are often due to the physical tax of discrimination, poverty, an increased risk of living near hazardous waste facilities, lack of access to healthcare, and differences in behaviour. And this is important: race is not imaginary simply because it’s not biological. Our perception of it has real consequences on the health of others because of how differently we treat them. As a study from the early 1990s demonstrates, infant mortality is twice as high in African Americans than in their white counterparts… unless you look at members of these groups who are enrolled in the military and receive care at the same army medical centre. For them, infant mortality rates are more or less the same.
Some doctors still use race as a useful proxy, but this assumption carries with it the risk of withholding effective treatment for some and of using ineffective treatment in others. Socioeconomic factors, culture, behaviour, and where a patient’s ancestors came from are more informative. As Francis Collins, the director of the consortium behind the Human Genome Project, once said, “race is a flawed surrogate.”
Race is relative
So what would you say is Liam Neeson’s race? You probably said “white”, but a hundred years ago, the answer would have been “Irish”. In the eyes of North Americans back then, the Irish were a separate race. Racial categories change over time.
Pakistanis and Indians are thought of as belonging to the Asian race (an idea perhaps more common in Britain than in North America), but at the level of their DNA, they are more similar to Europeans than they are to East Asians. Racial categories are not reflective of the underlying biological reality.
it's easy to find sources supporting what im talking about look at the above quote
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cant speak on france but 100 percent
biden and cnn wanna maintain status quo
point 1
their literal randoms as are you
their stances are gonna likely be biased and not based on fact cause of that
point 2
still means nothing cause the consenus of this site on one issue is the miniority on another site
if you on a site with a consenus you dislike then go to liberal.com or something
why you phrasing this like im so against white people dating black people
i literally told you, i prefer black women to white women
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cant speak on france but 100 percent
biden and cnn wanna maintain status quo
point 1
their literal randoms as are you
their stances are gonna likely be biased and not based on fact cause of that
point 2
still means nothing cause the consenus of this site on one issue is the miniority on another site
if you on a site with a consenus you dislike then go to liberal.com or something
why you phrasing this like im so against white people dating black people
i literally told you, i prefer black women to white women
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cant speak on france but 100 percent
biden and cnn wanna maintain status quo
point 1
their literal randoms as are you
their stances are gonna likely be biased and not based on fact cause of that
point 2
still means nothing cause the consenus of this site on one issue is the miniority on another site
if you on a site with a consenus you dislike then go to liberal.com or something
why you phrasing this like im so against white people dating black people
i literally told you, i prefer black women to white women
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Man you're stupid. Even though when we're just talking about a videogame you still feel compelled to accuse me of bullshit like this. All I've done in this thread is chastise guys like Bob or or ravager nonstop for their stupidity and bigotry. You and Bob are fucking mentally ill. Clear antisocial behavior mixed in with delusions of grandeur.
No mate, I'm just telling you that you used the wrong words, we are talking about science here, not just random conversation of the public.
Ok, so you are just ignoring the fact that women victim of abuse are most of the time trapped by their situations and can't really go away. Neet.
No, just with conservative and the far right. Liberals are not really conservative.
No, but you are showing your ignorance about the difference between liberal and antiliberal as always.
The reason again: intellectual dishonesty or intellectual lazyness.
Still no. Liberalism is a set of values
Actually I mostly vote for the left. I only vote for the right/liberals when they are against fascist or the far right in order to stop the far right from winning.
Bah non du coup...
again, you are ignoring everything I told you. But I guess you will keep ignoring it since you are intellectually dishonest here.
You don't want to accept that there is a difference between liberals and antiliberal in term of value. Because you don't want to accept that you are completely wrong. Well.. stay in ignorance dear far rightist and racist and sexist. (I'm just telling you who you are bro.)
Environment and genetic marker that we all possess
I'm talking here about a specific type of slavery (XIX- XX) who used scientific racism as a way to justify their acts. Your comment is therefore irrelevant here.
Which is an ethnic group, not a separate race.
From your own article, third line.
I beg you... read before you post, because you are ridiculizing yourself here and wasting my time.
Yes, that's precisely what I'm saying, liberals wants to maintain the status co.
You want me to go to a site of liberals ? We ARE on a site full of liberals. Mods are literally calling themself centrist (liberals) Why do you think I struggle so much here ?
Liberalism is the refusal of change and I want change.
I don't care bro
Usually when someone start with an insult, you can pretty much tell that the rest of the comment will be BS (let's see, I didn't read it yet)
Wow, I was right lol
No you are no "chastising" Bob or ravager, you are just commenting when you see fit. When transphobic, racist or sexist rethoric is thrawn away by the farightist here, you are usually gone, or just looking and sometimes offering a comments or an insult to the one that is contradicting them (me as its ALWAYS me) because ... because for no reasons, you don't have one, you just want chaos.
In fact you just thraw insult and problematic comments at the first occasion just as much as far rightist here. Here for example, you just threw a good loads of psychophobia our way.
Your are the personnification of the liberal centrist that consider that "woke people" and fascists are the same because they both use fighting rethorics.
Ok, so you are just ignoring the fact that women victim of abuse are most of the time trapped by their situations and can't really go away. Neet.
No, just with conservative and the far right. Liberals are not really conservative.
No, but you are showing your ignorance about the difference between liberal and antiliberal as always.
The reason again: intellectual dishonesty or intellectual lazyness.
Still no. Liberalism is a set of values
Actually I mostly vote for the left. I only vote for the right/liberals when they are against fascist or the far right in order to stop the far right from winning.
Bah non du coup...
again, you are ignoring everything I told you. But I guess you will keep ignoring it since you are intellectually dishonest here.
You don't want to accept that there is a difference between liberals and antiliberal in term of value. Because you don't want to accept that you are completely wrong. Well.. stay in ignorance dear far rightist and racist and sexist. (I'm just telling you who you are bro.)
Environment and genetic marker that we all possess
I'm talking here about a specific type of slavery (XIX- XX) who used scientific racism as a way to justify their acts. Your comment is therefore irrelevant here.
Which is an ethnic group, not a separate race.
From your own article, third line.
I beg you... read before you post, because you are ridiculizing yourself here and wasting my time.
Yes, that's precisely what I'm saying, liberals wants to maintain the status co.
You want me to go to a site of liberals ? We ARE on a site full of liberals. Mods are literally calling themself centrist (liberals) Why do you think I struggle so much here ?
Liberalism is the refusal of change and I want change.
I don't care bro
Usually when someone start with an insult, you can pretty much tell that the rest of the comment will be BS (let's see, I didn't read it yet)
Wow, I was right lol
No you are no "chastising" Bob or ravager, you are just commenting when you see fit. When transphobic, racist or sexist rethoric is thrawn away by the farightist here, you are usually gone, or just looking and sometimes offering a comments or an insult to the one that is contradicting them (me as its ALWAYS me) because ... because for no reasons, you don't have one, you just want chaos.
In fact you just thraw insult and problematic comments at the first occasion just as much as far rightist here. Here for example, you just threw a good loads of psychophobia our way.
Your are the personnification of the liberal centrist that consider that "woke people" and fascists are the same because they both use fighting rethorics.
yeah, that's why I made it.
I equate you to them in the sense of being an anti social freak, not on ideology. You're just baselessly accusing me of equating nazis to idiots like you cause that's the only tool you have in here. Accusing anybody that criticizes you of being a fascist or a centrist lib. I've gone after them more times than I can count due to their sexism and obvious stupidity. But I can't simply ignore your ignorance and blatant stupidity either.
You equate those who criticize you for being lazy and unproductive to right wingers. But the truth is you're just that, lazy and unproductive. While real labor union leaders and organizers are out there trying to better people's lives, you keep deluding yourself into thinking you're fighting against bigotry in here. You just want to feel superior to others and believe you are making a difference without putting in the work irl.
I still believe what I believe. And even though you're closer to me in terms of ideology than the assholes in here it still doesn't change the fact that you're delusional and a loser.
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I equate you to them in the sense of being an anti social freak, not on ideology. You're just baselessly accusing me of equating nazis to idiots like you cause that's the only tool you have in here. Accusing anybody that criticizes you of being a fascist or a centrist lib. I've gone after them more times than I can count due to their sexism and obvious stupidity. But I can't simply ignore your ignorance and blatant stupidity either.
You equate those who criticize you for being lazy and unproductive to right wingers. But the truth is you're just that, lazy and unproductive. While real labor union leaders and organizers are out there trying to better people's lives, you keep deluding yourself into thinking you're fighting against bigotry in here. You just want to feel superior to others and believe you are making a difference without putting in the work irl.
I still believe what I believe. And even though you're closer to me in terms of ideology than the assholes in here it still doesn't change the fact that you're delusional and a loser.
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Usually, when we call someone stupid the same way we treat the other, its an equivalence of treatment and ideas.
Ah.. I was waiting for that line. THE line of someone that don't understand leftist fights. This is a line usually used by the far right/fascist to negate the responsibilities of their ideas and actions (which is amazingly illustrated by this video
)
So no, I'm will not call you afar rightist, as I don't think you are one. But you have everything of the ideology of a good ol apolitical liberal maybe a little bit confusionnist, I don't know.
Progressive on the outside, toxic on the inside.
Strange, for all the times I countered bigots here, I've been feeling truly alone in front of their rethoric. Oh, I won't say that some people won't make post to reply to them here and there, but those are mostly little non threatening posts. In reality, the far right has a freeway here.
"ignorance and stupidity"...
Damn, i'm hyped to see the arguments you will bring in the following of your post to justify that comment.
Darn, I hyped myself too much...
hm so no. i don't do that. Usually when someone criticize my situation, I simply demonstrate their ignorance about mental illness. When I call someone a rightist, it means that I found some political values inside the message. Saying what you just said is just ignorance its not being on the "right political spectrum". Like I said to captain planet over there, being on this side means that you display value such as, ultra liberalism, meritocracy, sometimes conservatism, absolute freedom etc.
But granted, if you start creating a pattern where you display psychophobia a lot, it might indicate a relationship with the farright political spectrum indeed as this political side is completely unaware and most of the time hurtfull toward medical sensitive issues such as mental illness.
Case and point.
So let me clarify your point here.
What you don't like with me, is not the fact that I'm fighting bigots, its the fact that I choosed to fight my battle here. In other words, you are mad because I'm trying to change things on a turf you don't consider as problematic.
Which means that for you there are "nobles" and "illegitimate" fights. In other words, for you here, there are no problems.
Well, that explains a lot.. you would be friend with my president mate. You have the same type of thinking.
Spoiler, this is exactly how liberals think: "do not touch to the status co, only fight where we allow you to fight"
Do you really think that if I cared about that, I would make half of the forum against me ? I love a good fight, but I'm not that dumb mate.
I just do this because no one else is. Do it at my place and I will shut up. Go ahead, try.
And you showed me exactly what I was expecting from you, basic relativism and ignorance of the real issues.
Ah.. I was waiting for that line. THE line of someone that don't understand leftist fights. This is a line usually used by the far right/fascist to negate the responsibilities of their ideas and actions (which is amazingly illustrated by this video
So no, I'm will not call you afar rightist, as I don't think you are one. But you have everything of the ideology of a good ol apolitical liberal maybe a little bit confusionnist, I don't know.
Progressive on the outside, toxic on the inside.
Strange, for all the times I countered bigots here, I've been feeling truly alone in front of their rethoric. Oh, I won't say that some people won't make post to reply to them here and there, but those are mostly little non threatening posts. In reality, the far right has a freeway here.
"ignorance and stupidity"...
Damn, i'm hyped to see the arguments you will bring in the following of your post to justify that comment.
Darn, I hyped myself too much...
hm so no. i don't do that. Usually when someone criticize my situation, I simply demonstrate their ignorance about mental illness. When I call someone a rightist, it means that I found some political values inside the message. Saying what you just said is just ignorance its not being on the "right political spectrum". Like I said to captain planet over there, being on this side means that you display value such as, ultra liberalism, meritocracy, sometimes conservatism, absolute freedom etc.
But granted, if you start creating a pattern where you display psychophobia a lot, it might indicate a relationship with the farright political spectrum indeed as this political side is completely unaware and most of the time hurtfull toward medical sensitive issues such as mental illness.
Case and point.
So let me clarify your point here.
What you don't like with me, is not the fact that I'm fighting bigots, its the fact that I choosed to fight my battle here. In other words, you are mad because I'm trying to change things on a turf you don't consider as problematic.
Which means that for you there are "nobles" and "illegitimate" fights. In other words, for you here, there are no problems.
Well, that explains a lot.. you would be friend with my president mate. You have the same type of thinking.
Spoiler, this is exactly how liberals think: "do not touch to the status co, only fight where we allow you to fight"
Do you really think that if I cared about that, I would make half of the forum against me ? I love a good fight, but I'm not that dumb mate.
I just do this because no one else is. Do it at my place and I will shut up. Go ahead, try.
And you showed me exactly what I was expecting from you, basic relativism and ignorance of the real issues.
this dont apply to amber
she's rich
and here's the thing carrot there's women shelters for abused women and it's entirely possible to find a man who provides for you within a week's time so even for the average women, it's easy enough to escape these situlations
not as much so as amber cause she's a famous movie star with loads of connections so kinda hard to trap her
at least we agree on that
you look at things too black and white
leftism good
rightist bad
black people - 1 race
white people - 1 race
when the reality being genetics can exist different between groups even in the same continent
and who denied that was the case???
i think im to have said that like a dozen times
You want me to go to a site of liberals ? We ARE on a site full of liberals. Mods are literally calling themself centrist (liberals) Why do you think I struggle so much here ?
centrist arent liberal
aint the idea of centrist that they dont have a side regardless of what liberal you talk about
the principle is the same in that regard, they always have a side
progressive liberals lean left and classical liberals lean right
you struggle cause you have people like nameless,tejas and so on who are more right wing then me who you think to be far right
not to mention just dudes who lean left but arent nowhere as left wing as you. your too woke for even the other left leaning people
and when im saying im liberal im just saying progressive politics or whatever positions people of that group typically have so yea you would get along with them cause we are not using the same meanings
it;s just a title by this point
classical liberals share nothing in common with progressive liberals infact they loathe each other
you just call everyone who's not apart of your leftist group
far right
it has about the same meaning as a christan calling people heretics
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since you like sociological studies
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10302377/
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2014/06/12/section-2-growing-partisan-antipathy/
it suggests that there may be extreme apathy or seeing the other side as stupid
meaning carrot, your testimony here was deemed biased as approved by your ''science''
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https://www.pewresearch.org/politic...st-pronounced-among-conservative-republicans/
wonder why ''science'' confirms right wing hates government more then left wing
is it perhaps because media left wing bias??
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/media-bias-left-study/
facts dont lie
left wing people are content with the left wing status quo.
i thought the right ran things, why is your science telling me things that the almighty god carrot disapproves of
i thought you were bill nye the carrot guy
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https://www.pewresearch.org/politic...st-pronounced-among-conservative-republicans/
wonder why ''science'' confirms right wing hates government more then left wing
is it perhaps because media left wing bias??
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/media-bias-left-study/
facts dont lie
left wing people are content with the left wing status quo.
i thought the right ran things, why is your science telling me things that the almighty god carrot disapproves of
i thought you were bill nye the carrot guy
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https://www.pewresearch.org/politic...st-pronounced-among-conservative-republicans/
wonder why ''science'' confirms right wing hates government more then left wing
is it perhaps because media left wing bias??
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/media-bias-left-study/
facts dont lie
left wing people are content with the left wing status quo.
i thought the right ran things, why is your science telling me things that the almighty god carrot disapproves of
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https://www.pewresearch.org/politic...st-pronounced-among-conservative-republicans/
wonder why ''science'' confirms right wing hates government more then left wing
is it perhaps because media left wing bias??
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/media-bias-left-study/
facts dont lie
left wing people are content with the left wing status quo.
i thought the right ran things, why is your science telling me things that the almighty god carrot disapproves of
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Usually, when we call someone stupid the same way we treat the other, its an equivalence of treatment and ideas.
Ah.. I was waiting for that line. THE line of someone that don't understand leftist fights. This is a line usually used by the far right/fascist to negate the responsibilities of their ideas and actions (which is amazingly illustrated by this video
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So no, I'm will not call you afar rightist, as I don't think you are one. But you have everything of the ideology of a good ol apolitical liberal maybe a little bit confusionnist, I don't know.
Progressive on the outside, toxic on the inside.
Strange, for all the times I countered bigots here, I've been feeling truly alone in front of their rethoric. Oh, I won't say that some people won't make post to reply to them here and there, but those are mostly little non threatening posts. In reality, the far right has a freeway here.
"ignorance and stupidity"...
Damn, i'm hyped to see the arguments you will bring in the following of your post to justify that comment.
Darn, I hyped myself too much...
hm so no. i don't do that. Usually when someone criticize my situation, I simply demonstrate their ignorance about mental illness. When I call someone a rightist, it means that I found some political values inside the message. Saying what you just said is just ignorance its not being on the "right political spectrum". Like I said to captain planet over there, being on this side means that you display value such as, ultra liberalism, meritocracy, sometimes conservatism, absolute freedom etc.
But granted, if you start creating a pattern where you display psychophobia a lot, it might indicate a relationship with the farright political spectrum indeed as this political side is completely unaware and most of the time hurtfull toward medical sensitive issues such as mental illness.
Case and point.
So let me clarify your point here.
What you don't like with me, is not the fact that I'm fighting bigots, its the fact that I choosed to fight my battle here. In other words, you are mad because I'm trying to change things on a turf you don't consider as problematic.
Which means that for you there are "nobles" and "illegitimate" fights. In other words, for you here, there are no problems.
Well, that explains a lot.. you would be friend with my president mate. You have the same type of thinking.
Spoiler, this is exactly how liberals think: "do not touch to the status co, only fight where we allow you to fight"
Do you really think that if I cared about that, I would make half of the forum against me ? I love a good fight, but I'm not that dumb mate.
I just do this because no one else is. Do it at my place and I will shut up. Go ahead, try.
And you showed me exactly what I was expecting from you, basic relativism and ignorance of the real issues.
Ah.. I was waiting for that line. THE line of someone that don't understand leftist fights. This is a line usually used by the far right/fascist to negate the responsibilities of their ideas and actions (which is amazingly illustrated by this video
So no, I'm will not call you afar rightist, as I don't think you are one. But you have everything of the ideology of a good ol apolitical liberal maybe a little bit confusionnist, I don't know.
Progressive on the outside, toxic on the inside.
Strange, for all the times I countered bigots here, I've been feeling truly alone in front of their rethoric. Oh, I won't say that some people won't make post to reply to them here and there, but those are mostly little non threatening posts. In reality, the far right has a freeway here.
"ignorance and stupidity"...
Damn, i'm hyped to see the arguments you will bring in the following of your post to justify that comment.
Darn, I hyped myself too much...
hm so no. i don't do that. Usually when someone criticize my situation, I simply demonstrate their ignorance about mental illness. When I call someone a rightist, it means that I found some political values inside the message. Saying what you just said is just ignorance its not being on the "right political spectrum". Like I said to captain planet over there, being on this side means that you display value such as, ultra liberalism, meritocracy, sometimes conservatism, absolute freedom etc.
But granted, if you start creating a pattern where you display psychophobia a lot, it might indicate a relationship with the farright political spectrum indeed as this political side is completely unaware and most of the time hurtfull toward medical sensitive issues such as mental illness.
Case and point.
So let me clarify your point here.
What you don't like with me, is not the fact that I'm fighting bigots, its the fact that I choosed to fight my battle here. In other words, you are mad because I'm trying to change things on a turf you don't consider as problematic.
Which means that for you there are "nobles" and "illegitimate" fights. In other words, for you here, there are no problems.
Well, that explains a lot.. you would be friend with my president mate. You have the same type of thinking.
Spoiler, this is exactly how liberals think: "do not touch to the status co, only fight where we allow you to fight"
Do you really think that if I cared about that, I would make half of the forum against me ? I love a good fight, but I'm not that dumb mate.
I just do this because no one else is. Do it at my place and I will shut up. Go ahead, try.
And you showed me exactly what I was expecting from you, basic relativism and ignorance of the real issues.
Kindly, this does. Wealth do not negates the effect an abuser has on its victim.
Are you serious right now ? I'm actually asking because this time I don't want to appear rude because with other people you would be blocked with such comment. What you are saying proves that you are completely ignorant (and I'm not saying that as an insult) of the situations and reality of victims of abuse (men or women) and the mental GRIP that abusers have on their victims.
I'm extremelly serious here, read about that. Because right now, there is a gap of knowledge about that subject separating us and I just can't take the time to give you courses on the reality of those people.
Again, read about the reality that victim of abuse face and why its so hard for them to seek help.
Of course. Liberal are just the barers of certains values. But liberals can be (on the surface at least) progressive. Not saying that they can't be conservative tho, in fact conservatism is one of the value that make liberals, liberals as they want to keep the status co. Macron for example, can't stand change.
Duh... that's exactly what I'm trying to tell you guys.
Rightism, liberalism, conservatism and their values, ARE bad:
- For the lower class and middle classes
- For minorities
- For LGBTQ+
- For women's rights
- For the culture
- For the Fauna
- For the FLora
- For science education in general
- For economy
For pretty much everything.
This would need to be a entire series of book, but the impact of liberals and conservatism + the far right and fascism have been EXTREMMELY damagefull for the entire planet beginning with the search for gold and news commercial road that killed 70+ BILLIONS of people in the Americas starting in 1493. (And I'm not even talking about religious wars before and after that)
Again, listen to science, ethnic groups are not biological races
Yes, the problem is that you include me as a liberal when I'm actually fighting AGAINST liberals. So you are making a foundamental error of political comprehension.
Like I said, the main value of liberalism is meritocracy and leftist are OPPOSED to meritocracy. But tell me, if you are opposed to liberals, are you also opposed to meritocracy ?
Let's see if you are really against the status co...
Basic centrist don't exist. There is the right and the left. Centrist is just what liberal call themself to appear more progressive and to appeal to both leftist and rightist voters.
You will often here liberals say "I'm above political division" or "I'm neither left or right" or "there is good is the left and good in the right side" or "both extrems are bad".
You see, liberalism is not as much a political stance as it is an economic one, so liberals are often lacking in term of political value. So their programs will often seem... empty of ideologies. In reality, liberals/apoliticals just want one thing, : for things to stay as they are.
Indeed, but this is a vector, not a position. In reality, their position is still the right side, they just move on this part of the political spectrum.
That's why until a few hours ago, I was not calling you a far rightist. Just a confusionnist, meaning an apolitical/liberal leaning conservative. But I'm doing it now as you are more and more showing me rethoric close to the far right (Racism/sexism/anti science/Antiwoke etc.. the only exception being the right of abortion)
Some people here are indeed leaning left. Yes. That's right. But the majority of people here are either apolitical, either liberals. Or they are staying silent.
I'm the only leftist who makes a real stand here. Sadly...
I understand but this is not what liberalism is. Liberalism is a set of value that place meritocracy and freedom at the center of their ideology. This is something you must absolutely understand because without that, you will stay oblivious to a great series of mesure that liberals are actually doing.
In short, meritocracy is the value that really separate the left from the right.
Meritocracy is a model of society that has been in the making for more than a millenia. Today meritocracy is what is shaping the ENTIRE society. Its one of the foundation of capitalism. Meritocracy is literally the representation of the status co and what liberals are seeing as a salvation.
The problem is that merit is a myth and that meritocracy NEVER worked and will never work. There are countless documentations on that so I won't give you specific data, just type "meritocracy is bad for you" and you should understand the problem.
Because it never worked, people are trying to change the system. Those people are us, leftist (and communists and anarchists). Because we see the political problems linked with meritocracy and all its social issues we are FOUNDAMENTALY opposed to this model of society that is rulling the world right now.
This is why a left side and a right side started rising in the first place. Because they were in conflict on values such as meritocracy or propriety or human rights.
Anyway, what you need to understand is that today, meritocracy is defended by the right side of the political spectrum starting with liberals up until the far right and we, the left, are trying to create a new system. More equal with less inequalities.
No. I just call far right people with far right values. there is a tone of people on this forum that are not far right (the majority in fact)
And.. that's where you are wrong.
I was on your side once. And I know that I'm not stupid and I was not stupid back then. I was just missinformed and completely under the influence of my cognitive biases.
This is what I think you are, not stupid, just missinformed about foundamental subject such as sociology, science or politics and completely under the influence of your cognitive bias and maybe a little bit too influenced by far right rethoric on social medias. Maybe you should try to listen to left wing media for once.
The science here doesn't disagree with me lmao. In fact here, its actually showing what I'm telling you and you don't understand it because you don't try to go look beyond the paper.
Conservatives are indeed more frustrated against governements, which is logical, they hate progress and progress is rising within governements. But they LOVE the system. In fact the system foundamentaly benefits them. (mostly the rich). The system is why people like Trump, who spit on the face of gov, was able to become president. The system (in USA) favors lobbying, and lobbying is mostly something that can be done by rich people... who are most of the time leaning toward conservatism.
Liberal as shown are content with the status co, gov and the system.
On the contrary leftist/socialist and communist (that are absents from this research) are less frustrated with governement than they are with the entire system.
In short : When the rights wants to get rid of governements but wants to keep the system in place, the left wants to get rid of the entire system enabling bad governement to emerge.
Right now, liberals and the right are running the system. But it will change. You'll see.
All I see here is "bla bla bla, I'm triggered, bla bla bla"
Who said I was feeling lonely ?
I've been here since the beginning and I didn't see you much mate. And trust me, I pay attention.
Again, you being influenced by really badly thought rethoric.
Are you serious right now ? I'm actually asking because this time I don't want to appear rude because with other people you would be blocked with such comment. What you are saying proves that you are completely ignorant (and I'm not saying that as an insult) of the situations and reality of victims of abuse (men or women) and the mental GRIP that abusers have on their victims.
I'm extremelly serious here, read about that. Because right now, there is a gap of knowledge about that subject separating us and I just can't take the time to give you courses on the reality of those people.
Again, read about the reality that victim of abuse face and why its so hard for them to seek help.
Of course. Liberal are just the barers of certains values. But liberals can be (on the surface at least) progressive. Not saying that they can't be conservative tho, in fact conservatism is one of the value that make liberals, liberals as they want to keep the status co. Macron for example, can't stand change.
Duh... that's exactly what I'm trying to tell you guys.
Rightism, liberalism, conservatism and their values, ARE bad:
- For the lower class and middle classes
- For minorities
- For LGBTQ+
- For women's rights
- For the culture
- For the Fauna
- For the FLora
- For science education in general
- For economy
For pretty much everything.
This would need to be a entire series of book, but the impact of liberals and conservatism + the far right and fascism have been EXTREMMELY damagefull for the entire planet beginning with the search for gold and news commercial road that killed 70+ BILLIONS of people in the Americas starting in 1493. (And I'm not even talking about religious wars before and after that)
Again, listen to science, ethnic groups are not biological races
Yes, the problem is that you include me as a liberal when I'm actually fighting AGAINST liberals. So you are making a foundamental error of political comprehension.
Like I said, the main value of liberalism is meritocracy and leftist are OPPOSED to meritocracy. But tell me, if you are opposed to liberals, are you also opposed to meritocracy ?
Let's see if you are really against the status co...
Basic centrist don't exist. There is the right and the left. Centrist is just what liberal call themself to appear more progressive and to appeal to both leftist and rightist voters.
You will often here liberals say "I'm above political division" or "I'm neither left or right" or "there is good is the left and good in the right side" or "both extrems are bad".
You see, liberalism is not as much a political stance as it is an economic one, so liberals are often lacking in term of political value. So their programs will often seem... empty of ideologies. In reality, liberals/apoliticals just want one thing, : for things to stay as they are.
Indeed, but this is a vector, not a position. In reality, their position is still the right side, they just move on this part of the political spectrum.
That's why until a few hours ago, I was not calling you a far rightist. Just a confusionnist, meaning an apolitical/liberal leaning conservative. But I'm doing it now as you are more and more showing me rethoric close to the far right (Racism/sexism/anti science/Antiwoke etc.. the only exception being the right of abortion)
Some people here are indeed leaning left. Yes. That's right. But the majority of people here are either apolitical, either liberals. Or they are staying silent.
I'm the only leftist who makes a real stand here. Sadly...
I understand but this is not what liberalism is. Liberalism is a set of value that place meritocracy and freedom at the center of their ideology. This is something you must absolutely understand because without that, you will stay oblivious to a great series of mesure that liberals are actually doing.
In short, meritocracy is the value that really separate the left from the right.
Meritocracy is a model of society that has been in the making for more than a millenia. Today meritocracy is what is shaping the ENTIRE society. Its one of the foundation of capitalism. Meritocracy is literally the representation of the status co and what liberals are seeing as a salvation.
The problem is that merit is a myth and that meritocracy NEVER worked and will never work. There are countless documentations on that so I won't give you specific data, just type "meritocracy is bad for you" and you should understand the problem.
Because it never worked, people are trying to change the system. Those people are us, leftist (and communists and anarchists). Because we see the political problems linked with meritocracy and all its social issues we are FOUNDAMENTALY opposed to this model of society that is rulling the world right now.
This is why a left side and a right side started rising in the first place. Because they were in conflict on values such as meritocracy or propriety or human rights.
Anyway, what you need to understand is that today, meritocracy is defended by the right side of the political spectrum starting with liberals up until the far right and we, the left, are trying to create a new system. More equal with less inequalities.
No. I just call far right people with far right values. there is a tone of people on this forum that are not far right (the majority in fact)
And.. that's where you are wrong.
I was on your side once. And I know that I'm not stupid and I was not stupid back then. I was just missinformed and completely under the influence of my cognitive biases.
This is what I think you are, not stupid, just missinformed about foundamental subject such as sociology, science or politics and completely under the influence of your cognitive bias and maybe a little bit too influenced by far right rethoric on social medias. Maybe you should try to listen to left wing media for once.
The science here doesn't disagree with me lmao. In fact here, its actually showing what I'm telling you and you don't understand it because you don't try to go look beyond the paper.
Conservatives are indeed more frustrated against governements, which is logical, they hate progress and progress is rising within governements. But they LOVE the system. In fact the system foundamentaly benefits them. (mostly the rich). The system is why people like Trump, who spit on the face of gov, was able to become president. The system (in USA) favors lobbying, and lobbying is mostly something that can be done by rich people... who are most of the time leaning toward conservatism.
Liberal as shown are content with the status co, gov and the system.
On the contrary leftist/socialist and communist (that are absents from this research) are less frustrated with governement than they are with the entire system.
In short : When the rights wants to get rid of governements but wants to keep the system in place, the left wants to get rid of the entire system enabling bad governement to emerge.
Right now, liberals and the right are running the system. But it will change. You'll see.
All I see here is "bla bla bla, I'm triggered, bla bla bla"
Who said I was feeling lonely ?
I've been here since the beginning and I didn't see you much mate. And trust me, I pay attention.
Again, you being influenced by really badly thought rethoric.
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What is it if its not human?
I thought science is so important to you. You think that living being changes species somewhere down the line of its development? Because thats massively retarded. Its a member of homo sapiens even as a zygote. Just as there are zygotes of other animal species lmfao.
Yeah sure. Ironically i have seen enough pro life people being in favor of the death sentence to some extent.
And people at least accept the right to self defense or some are fine with collateral damage in wars.
One of which is pathological lying, which i mentioned and gave oke example for. The latter example i gave shows lack of remorse and her being manipulative as fuck.
She is also clearly narcissistic. Thats already alot of the characteristics covered lol
She specified violence for Amber but not for johnny. Abuse isnt only physical. Amber absolutely failed to have evidence showing johnny got violent. Couple counselor said amber initiated multiple fights with physical violence.
So no consequences, alright
No. Woman and man, per dictionaries, is defined by sex, not gender. Transwomen are not women
Elaborate
I mean we are also fucking up flora so i dont see any actual point
Not genetically though
Felidae are cats. It is a family, sure. They just arent housecats.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felidae
Didnt you pretty much mske the same point as bob here about johnny and the contracts i mentioned? Ironic
Nope
I thought science is so important to you. You think that living being changes species somewhere down the line of its development? Because thats massively retarded. Its a member of homo sapiens even as a zygote. Just as there are zygotes of other animal species lmfao.
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Yeah sure. Ironically i have seen enough pro life people being in favor of the death sentence to some extent.
And people at least accept the right to self defense or some are fine with collateral damage in wars.
One of which is pathological lying, which i mentioned and gave oke example for. The latter example i gave shows lack of remorse and her being manipulative as fuck.
She is also clearly narcissistic. Thats already alot of the characteristics covered lol
She specified violence for Amber but not for johnny. Abuse isnt only physical. Amber absolutely failed to have evidence showing johnny got violent. Couple counselor said amber initiated multiple fights with physical violence.
So no consequences, alright
No. Woman and man, per dictionaries, is defined by sex, not gender. Transwomen are not women
Elaborate
I mean we are also fucking up flora so i dont see any actual point
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Not genetically though
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Felidae are cats. It is a family, sure. They just arent housecats.
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felidae
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Didnt you pretty much mske the same point as bob here about johnny and the contracts i mentioned? Ironic
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Nope
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