Future Events What title should Zoro have to declare him as the strongest in the universe of all times?

[nik87]

None, since WSS is weaker than WSM, WSC and pirate king.

So Zoro getting WSC would convince you?

 

[ShishioIsBack]

None, since WSS is weaker than WSM, WSC and pirate king.

Are you the old guy or the virgin looking guy?

 

[Rambles]

Zoro can have many titles at the end of One Piece:

- worlds greenest person
- worlds lostest person
- Mr. Alkohol-Level
-...

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

I understand but if Kaido was designed as a fighter who solely relies on a sword, would he be a swordsman considering he isnt a (hu)man?

I guess yes. I mean, he'd be more than say, King.
But ultimately, what Oda has done he has made "swordsman" people without fruits, like the Samurais (who even if have fruits they don't use them to fight) or Ryuma or the Octopus guy in Fishman island
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But you only told me that and I already addressed it.
Mihawk saying becoming Pirate King is harder than becoming WSS is a null and void argument since it doesn't say anywhere becoming Pirate King means you are stronger than WSS.

Pirate king is harder cuz
-It takes a crew
-First Mate stronger than yourself
-Finding Raftel
-Going against Navy
-Getting poneglyphs

If doing all that isn't at least somewhat harder than becoming WSS which all it takes is training and training and training, then what value does Pirate king title even have?
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Oh but Oda has already confirmed Roger as
-Purest Swordsman in One Piece
-With no Devil Fruit
-Uses Flying Slashes
-Supreme Grade Blade User
-Lovers his blade so much he names his son after it

And these are Oda's own words calling Roger a swordsman

Oda "These are Swordsmen of One Piece Manga, when they cut it really hurts"

And this

My friend, you lack reading comprehension. I already said that Roger is a swordsman, I don't understand if you are trolling now?

For me a swordsman is somebody that uses the swords as a main fighting tool, like The Rat, Roger of Pinzoro, even King or the stone man are not IMHO, but that's Oda's fault that barely gave "swordsman" as enemy to Zoro. I mean someone like the scabbards, or Ryuma-Zombie.

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[Tejas]

Okay president of the USA is a harder task than becoming a BJJ Blue Belt.
What does that have to do with Luffy vs Zoro?

Pirate King must have Power and it is tougher to obtain Power enough to become PK than to obtain Power to become WSS. Hence PK stronger than WSS

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Pirate King must have Power and it is tougher to obtain Power enough to become PK than to obtain Power to become WSS. Hence PK stronger than WSS

You literally said nothing
Practically nothing

 

[Foul Legacy]

I meant it in a literal sense as his second in the crew.
I am particularly referring to the spread with all the "seconds" where Bepo and Killer are.

They are second in command , luffy is ofc the captain.
Mihawk isn't weaker than Buggy but stronger than him.

 

[nik87]

I guess yes. I mean, he'd be more than say, King.
But ultimately, what Oda has done he has made "swordsman" people without fruits, like the Samurais (who even if have fruits they don't use them to fight) or Ryuma or the Octopus guy in Fishman island

So Kaido as WSC if he was a fighter relying on a sword would have the title of WSS.
My point is, WSS title can be the strongest title. However, I do think Zori will get all 3 of them.

 

[Foul Legacy]

Naah this is.

:holdthisl:

Nobody achieves PK alone. Thats what difficult.
Tell me you have zero reading comprehension without telling me.
Mihawk even said he has the ability to bring people together.
Zoro and mihawk are lone wolf type. Thats why its difficult for them

 

[ShishioIsBack]

I guess yes. I mean, he'd be more than say, King.
But ultimately, what Oda has done he has made "swordsman" people without fruits, like the Samurais (who even if have fruits they don't use them to fight) or Ryuma or the Octopus guy in Fishman island
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My friend, you lack reading comprehension. I already said that Roger is a swordsman, I don't understand if you are trolling now?

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So if Roger is more of pure swordsman than Mihawk..why won't Zoro surpass him EoS?

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

So Kaido as WSC if he was a fighter relying on a sword would have the title of WSS.
My point is, WSS title can be the strongest title. However, I do think Zori will get all 3 of them.

Yes of course, but WSM is stronger that WSS always, the other is not. Glad we agree, fellow Zori-chad.

 

[Tejas]

You literally said nothing
Practically nothing

You literally read nothing

Practically nothing
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Nobody achieves PK alone. Thats what difficult.
Tell me you have zero reading comprehension without telling me.
Mihawk even said he has the ability to bring people together.
Zoro and mihawk are lone wolf type. Thats why its difficult for them

No.
Pirate King has Wealth, Fame and Power

Mihawk could not protect his Island alone from fodder Marines.

Mihawk is not lone wolf. He teamed up with Buggy and Croc for safety

 

[Nikuzi]

The only way Zoro is the strongest in the verse EoS is if Luffy dies at the end

 

[Foul Legacy]

Mihawk could not protect his Island alone from fodder Marines.

He didn't wanted to.

Mihawk is not lone wolf. He teamed up with Buggy and Croc for safety

What safety?
He only joined croc because he has Money for the organisation.
Again keep telling us you have no reading comprehension

 

[nik87]

Yes of course, but WSM is stronger that WSS always, the other is not. Glad we agree, fellow Zori-chad.

If it is obtained in the same era, yes. :cheers:
In OP's case, we know that WSC, WSM and WSS are decades apart from each other age-wise.

 

[Tejas]

He didn't wanted to.


What safety?
He only joined croc because he has Money for the organisation.
Again keep telling us you have no reading comprehension

Safety from Marines swarming his Island

 

[SakazOuki]

“Admiral” Zoro

 

[nik87]

“Admiral” Zoro

 

[Foul Legacy]

Safety from Marines swarming his Island

Yea marine hunter
3.6 B bounty
Wss
Need safety from marine hunter.
Again keep showing us you lack reading skills.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Yea marine hunter
3.6 B bounty
Wss
Need safety from marine hunter.
Again keep showing us you lack reading skills.

He literally flees the island where he has lived multiple years when Marines come to arrest him, how is that not true?