Controversial General Political Discussion
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First : Yes, you are in fact. What you are doing here is use the same rethoric as gun lobbyist, "criminal will find a way either way, so let's not do anything", which is a defense of gun 's easy access.
Second: This rethoric as demonstrated previously is completely fallacious.
No, a person that wants to commit a crime will not just "find a weapon" if those are regulated. Finding a weapon when those are forbidden is not something that can be done easily. Meaning that by regulating gun's access we are actually creating a first barrier between people who want to commit crimes and the possibility of doing those crimes.
Like I said, scientific research explain clearly that gun regulation equates to less victims:
https://www.sciencealert.com/scientific-evidence-that-stricter-gun-control-works-saves-lives
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-science-is-clear-gun-control-saves-lives1/
But I'm not dreaming, I know that people on this thread don't really care about what the researcher are actually saying.
You guys are agents of the status co.
"Don't change things, things could change and we don't want that"
In two pages, not ONE person came to say "I want less victim, let's reduce gun's access".. No, each one of you came with one argument "PeOpLe ArE tHe PrObLeM, so let's not do the one obvious thing that could reduce the number of victims"
Which is, again, a liberal and apolitical way of seeing the world. This is an individualistic vision of society where people should be responsibilized for their actions and the system/institution shouldn't be blamed for anything.
"The Islamic radicalization is rising in Europe ? That's because because people must be listening to religion fanatic to much... this has absolutely NOTHING to do with the fact that we are letting far right and islamophobic discourse enter the public debate and that we are supporting countries who are doing genocide on Muslim populations....."
"An increase of far right terrorist attack ? This is because people are too dumb to listen to reason and not at all because institutions and media are pushing far right narratives to the limits or because a far right celebrity is able to arrive to the office or because a social media CEO is able to propagate conspiracy and anti woke theories or because news medias are working with the far right to target "woke propaganda"
"An increase of school shootings ? This is because of video games and because parents don't raise correctly their kids and ABSOLUTELY NOT because the health system is completely broken or because we make a star out of school shooters or because its as F*cking easy to buy a gun that to buy a video Game !!"
In this liberal and apolitical world... people are responsible, its the vision of the human above all systems... its therefore our responsibility not to become criminals and the system holds NO responsibility whatsoever !
If people rob, then it must be because they are bad apples and not because they are poor and abandonned by society
If people rape, then is must be because they are pigs and not because they are people in power in a society that enables their behaviors
If people do mass shootings, then is must be because they are monsters and not at all because society is completely paralyzed in the understanding of mental illness and destructive behaviors and gun regulations..
So yeah... Let's keep the status co.. Let's legitimize the fact of doing nothing by explaining that people are the problem.
Second: This rethoric as demonstrated previously is completely fallacious.
No, a person that wants to commit a crime will not just "find a weapon" if those are regulated. Finding a weapon when those are forbidden is not something that can be done easily. Meaning that by regulating gun's access we are actually creating a first barrier between people who want to commit crimes and the possibility of doing those crimes.
Like I said, scientific research explain clearly that gun regulation equates to less victims:
https://www.sciencealert.com/scientific-evidence-that-stricter-gun-control-works-saves-lives
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-science-is-clear-gun-control-saves-lives1/
But I'm not dreaming, I know that people on this thread don't really care about what the researcher are actually saying.
You guys are agents of the status co.
"Don't change things, things could change and we don't want that"
In two pages, not ONE person came to say "I want less victim, let's reduce gun's access".. No, each one of you came with one argument "PeOpLe ArE tHe PrObLeM, so let's not do the one obvious thing that could reduce the number of victims"
Which is, again, a liberal and apolitical way of seeing the world. This is an individualistic vision of society where people should be responsibilized for their actions and the system/institution shouldn't be blamed for anything.
"The Islamic radicalization is rising in Europe ? That's because because people must be listening to religion fanatic to much... this has absolutely NOTHING to do with the fact that we are letting far right and islamophobic discourse enter the public debate and that we are supporting countries who are doing genocide on Muslim populations....."
"An increase of far right terrorist attack ? This is because people are too dumb to listen to reason and not at all because institutions and media are pushing far right narratives to the limits or because a far right celebrity is able to arrive to the office or because a social media CEO is able to propagate conspiracy and anti woke theories or because news medias are working with the far right to target "woke propaganda"
"An increase of school shootings ? This is because of video games and because parents don't raise correctly their kids and ABSOLUTELY NOT because the health system is completely broken or because we make a star out of school shooters or because its as F*cking easy to buy a gun that to buy a video Game !!"
In this liberal and apolitical world... people are responsible, its the vision of the human above all systems... its therefore our responsibility not to become criminals and the system holds NO responsibility whatsoever !
If people rob, then it must be because they are bad apples and not because they are poor and abandonned by society
If people rape, then is must be because they are pigs and not because they are people in power in a society that enables their behaviors
If people do mass shootings, then is must be because they are monsters and not at all because society is completely paralyzed in the understanding of mental illness and destructive behaviors and gun regulations..
So yeah... Let's keep the status co.. Let's legitimize the fact of doing nothing by explaining that people are the problem.
Black Market buyers are laughing their asses off. Come on now 
https://www.euractiv.com/section/he...xpanding-rapidly-in-europe-especially-france/
https://www.statista.com/outlook/hmo/cannabis/france
Yeah but you are not a criminal
Criminals would think twice about breaking the law and buy an illegal gun!
Criminals would think twice about breaking the law and buy an illegal gun!
Hell arms dealer I know gifted a tommy machine gun to police HQ so they can display it
Fallacious comparison again. You are talking about substances that have very clear use for pleasure or for health VS a weapon has none unless you want to use it against someone.
I'm talking about people who have 0 knowledge about the subject. Of course that in your case it's completely different mate. But let's not think that it is a knowledge that is accessible to everyone. (and gladly so)
I'm talking about people who have 0 knowledge about the subject. Of course that in your case it's completely different mate. But let's not think that it is a knowledge that is accessible to everyone. (and gladly so)
Prevention is fighting:
Just like alcholism is beaten by:
They are not banned almost anywhere, but making them less cool and destroying the cultural appeal made the consumption drop significantly in the west.
- Gang Culture
- Cultural segregation
- Mental issues
- Bullism
Just like alcholism is beaten by:
- Better education
- Culture war against "Cool Alcohol"
They are not banned almost anywhere, but making them less cool and destroying the cultural appeal made the consumption drop significantly in the west.