There is the agressor and the victim. Israel was victim of the agressor Hamas.
Oh.. really ?
You think that colonization or oppression are not acts of agression ?


First we are finally improving. Already able to admit Hamas did a war crime.
Again.. You are failling to read correctly.. I explained that Hamas did a war crime long ago even before you were discussing about the subject on this thread. I did not "admit" anything and I owe you no admittion whatoever.

I'm not the one defending genocide and ignoring its existence, YOU ARE.

Don't try to create an inversion here mate, its



Next step admit it is a terrorist group.
Its not. Its a foundamentalist group of resistance. The only group armed group of resistance in Palestine right now. It did something horrible, a war crime, but its objective still remains the fight against the state of Israel that is colonizing Palestine.


The colonizer was England not Israel.
At first yes. But after that.. the process of colonization that followed for decade and is still active today ? ... its not England, Its Israelian forces.

And what about the oppression of the palestinian all over the country ? What about the blocus on Gaza ? Hm ?? Is this England too ?

And what will be your argument next? Natives should take over the whole America? Let's start to find out the original tribe of each place and give it back to them? The past is past we can't do nothing about it. Israel is the country in that place now. Stop bombimg them and move on your lifes.
The past is the past is an easy answer. Its the answer of the cowards who refuse to face responsibilities for their actions.

Native in America were wiped out. There is almost nothing left to fight for. But this is not the case of the Palestinian people. There are still people here, people fighting for their life. People who were stripped away from their homes and rights.

So no, the past is not the past in this situation. Israel must give back the bare minimum: The frontieres of 1948, the end of colonization and the blocus on Gaza, the end of the attacks and DEEP and MEANINGFULL apologies to the Palestinians.

Most people are not demanding that all Israelian should go away, we just want Palestinian to have their homes and country back. Simple.

So the best option would be for Israel to take over the rest since Muslims can live inside Israel without a problem but the opposite is not truth.
Annexion and genocide then ? Crime against humanity and illegal policies.. Nice.
 
you sound too damm arrogant by saying that

btw when you say "you guys" that mean everyone who posted here so your claim itself is incorrect
Because he misrepresents the actual facts and chooses to peddle the political science garbage. He's been given a platform by the very mods themselves to lie etc. So don't be surprised when he does this.
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
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you sound too damm arrogant by saying that

btw when you say "you guys" that means everyone who posted here so your claim itself is incorrect
AL why do you bother to respond when he replies to you? This is the same dude who thinks not liking Carrot is the same as denying civil rights to African Americans, calling black posters racist against black people.

He makes up definitions, is in his mid 30s and unemployed with a lacking social life, constantly changes the goalposts when he is proven wrong, and a massive hypocrite.

You get the same tried responses on how he's a martyr for justice and we brainwashed servants of evil.
 

AL sama

Red Haired
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AL why do you bother to respond when he replies to you? This is the same dude who thinks not liking Carrot is the same as denying civil rights to African Americans, calling black posters racist against black people.

He makes up definitions, is in his mid 30s and unemployed with a lacking social life, constantly changes the goalposts when he is proven wrong, and a massive hypocrite.

You get the same tried responses on how he's a martyr for justice and we brainwashed servants of evil.
I just find him amusing at times lol
 
you sound too damm arrogant by saying that
Its sounds arrogant I concede, but its factual. I'm always the one who needs to bring scientific articles to debunk most of the things that are said here. Simply because no one else is doing the job. People who should be fighting with me like Toby are just insulting them while insulting me along the way and people who have the power like you only find fitting to "try" to deligitimize what I'm saying.

So I'm mostly alone doing the job of recontextualization and debunking:kayneshrug:


btw when you say "you guys" that means everyone who posted here so your claim itself is incorrect
Well.. most people who post here are either far rightist, liberals or apolitic so the majority of what is said here is bonkers. I say "you guyz" because I won't take the time to quote all the names one by one, its too much to ask


He's been given a platform by the very mods themselves to lie etc
Oh nice! I see that you are finally adopting the current strategy of the far right: copying the left in its critics of the apolitical/liberal power in place in order to push leftist ideas outside of the admissible spectrum (as liberals will most likely follow the call of rightist than those who are fighting them in the first place).

Smart, very smart. Let's see if the staff will follow you there..



This is the same dude who thinks not liking Carrot is the same as denying civil rights to African Americans, calling black posters racist against black people.
Oh ! Another technique of manipulation. This time its the rewriting of history. The goal being to twist history just close enough to the truth that it will be recieved without questionning.

I actually never said that not liking Carrot was the same as denying civil rights to african american or that black poster were racists.

What I actually said is that the Mink were just like anyother non human races in One Piece oppressed by the gov. And that therefore denigrating and deligitimizing this race (as it was done in this thread multiple times) based on the fact that they are partanimals was an act of legitimation of the act of the oppressive gov and therefore an act of racism.

It might be a fictive race, the way we treat and see fictionnal characters will be most of the time similar with the way we see and treat real people. Even when this is a black person deligitimizing and denigrating a fictional race.

constantly changes the goalposts when he is proven wrong, and a massive hypocrite.
It happens a lot in other places on different subjects but I'm rarely proven wrong here mate, and when it happens I always take the courage to admit it, contrary to 99% of the posters here (@Bisoromi Bear excluded)

Buut keep the false allegations going, it keeps me busy. hehehehe


You get the same tried responses on how he's a martyr for justice and we brainwashed servants of evil.
I'm not a saint, never was, never will be.

I'm just trying to do better.

Its the only difference between me and you.
 
Its sounds arrogant I concede, but its factual. I'm always the one who needs to bring scientific articles to debunk most of the things that are said here. Simply because no one else is doing the job. People who should be fighting with me like Toby are just insulting them while insulting me along the way and people who have the power like you only find fitting to "try" to deligitimize what I'm saying.

So I'm mostly alone doing the job of recontextualization and debunking:kayneshrug:



Well.. most people who post here are either far rightist, liberals or apolitic so the majority of what is said here is bonkers. I say "you guyz" because I won't take the time to quote all the names one by one, its too much to ask



Oh nice! I see that you are finally adopting the current strategy of the far right: copying the left in its critics of the apolitical/liberal power in place in order to push leftist ideas outside of the admissible spectrum (as liberals will most likely follow the call of rightist than those who are fighting them in the first place).

Smart, very smart. Let's see if the staff will follow you there..




Oh ! Another technique of manipulation. This time its the rewriting of history. The goal being to twist history just close enough to the truth that it will be revieved without questionning.

I actually never said that not liking Carrot was the same as denying civil rights to african american or that black poster were racists.

What I actually said is that the Mink were just like anyother non human races in One Piece oppressed by the gov. And that therefore denigrating and deligitimizing this race (as it was done in this thread multiple times) based on the fact that they are animals was an act of legitimation of the act of the oppressive gov and therefore an act of racism.

It might be a fictive race, the way we treat and see fictionnal characters will be most of the time similar with the way we see and treat real people. Even when this is a black person deligitimizing and denigrating a fictional race.


It happens a lot in other places on different subjects but I'm rarely proven wrong here mate, and when it happens I always take the courage to admit it, contrary to 99% of the posters here (@Bisoromi Bear excluded)

Buut keep the false allegations going, it keeps me busy. hehehehe



I'm not a saint, never was, never will be.

I'm just trying to do better.

Its the only difference between me and you.
Dude just stfu. Nobody cares what you have to say. As you are, a leech on your own society, give it up.
 
AL why do you bother to respond when he replies to you? This is the same dude who thinks not liking Carrot is the same as denying civil rights to African Americans, calling black posters racist against black people.

He makes up definitions, is in his mid 30s and unemployed with a lacking social life, constantly changes the goalposts when he is proven wrong, and a massive hypocrite.

You get the same tried responses on how he's a martyr for justice and we brainwashed servants of evil.
damn...you didn't need to say the truth like this:leohah:
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I just find him amusing at times lol
Indeed. I think i suffered from abstinence symptoms while i couldn't post here. C4N is too entertaining. His posts are like crack.
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Its sounds arrogant I concede, but its factual. I'm always the one who needs to bring scientific articles to debunk most of the things that are said here. Simply because no one else is doing the job. People who should be fighting with me like Toby are just insulting them while insulting me along the way and people who have the power like you only find fitting to "try" to deligitimize what I'm saying.

So I'm mostly alone doing the job of recontextualization and debunking:kayneshrug:



Well.. most people who post here are either far rightist, liberals or apolitic so the majority of what is said here is bonkers. I say "you guyz" because I won't take the time to quote all the names one by one, its too much to ask



Oh nice! I see that you are finally adopting the current strategy of the far right: copying the left in its critics of the apolitical/liberal power in place in order to push leftist ideas outside of the admissible spectrum (as liberals will most likely follow the call of rightist than those who are fighting them in the first place).

Smart, very smart. Let's see if the staff will follow you there..




Oh ! Another technique of manipulation. This time its the rewriting of history. The goal being to twist history just close enough to the truth that it will be recieved without questionning.

I actually never said that not liking Carrot was the same as denying civil rights to african american or that black poster were racists.

What I actually said is that the Mink were just like anyother non human races in One Piece oppressed by the gov. And that therefore denigrating and deligitimizing this race (as it was done in this thread multiple times) based on the fact that they are partanimals was an act of legitimation of the act of the oppressive gov and therefore an act of racism.

It might be a fictive race, the way we treat and see fictionnal characters will be most of the time similar with the way we see and treat real people. Even when this is a black person deligitimizing and denigrating a fictional race.


It happens a lot in other places on different subjects but I'm rarely proven wrong here mate, and when it happens I always take the courage to admit it, contrary to 99% of the posters here (@Bisoromi Bear excluded)

Buut keep the false allegations going, it keeps me busy. hehehehe



I'm not a saint, never was, never will be.

I'm just trying to do better.

Its the only difference between me and you.
You are sad sight. You have no idea how posting this wall of garbage looks like after what Uncle just said about you. You just look like a badly educated kid trying to get attention by being a smartass. Its ugly.
 
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damn...you didn't need to say the truth like this:leohah:
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Indeed. I think i suffered from abstinence symptoms while i couldn't post here. C4N is too entertaining. His posts are like crack.
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You are sad sight. You have no idea how posting this wall of garbage looks like after what Uncle just said about you. You just look like a badly educated kid trying to get attention by being a smartass. Its ugly.
It's behavior of somebody who doesn't have to work for a living, a entitled little manbaby who takes away, and yet feels the need to preach to people in other countries.
 
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