Controversial General Political Discussion
- Thread starter AL sama
- Start date
- Tags #freepalestine #votebluenomatterwhat are you having fun al? are you having van al? gaolang > your fav i refuse to pay my taxes imagine thinking trump is the good guy is not paying tax sexist is van having fun al? it's over for trump life goal sister harem loli mfw kamala harris can actually win real madrid tax is the best thing ever happened to us trans rights = human rights trans women are not interested in any of you worst thread ever
There is not hierarchy between studients and children unless you are in a military school. Studients are not the employee or the soldiers of teachers.
?
In France we have a Law that prevent the denial of the "shoah". But only this one genocide. There is no laws against the denial of what we did in Africa for example. Concerning the definition, A genocide is something that was defined as followed by the UN:
"
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
- Killing members of the group;
- Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
- Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part
- Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group
- Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group
"
https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml#:~:text=To constitute genocide, there must,to simply disperse a group.
Its not hatred, its frustration. They are an oppressed group and we are the oppressors. Its logical for them to feel completely frustrated by what they live.
Its not. Its really not. When we see "we need less white men" in structures of power (for example). This is NOT an attack, this is factual. We need less white men in structures of power because the fact that we have so much is proven to be hurtfull because this is a priviledged class of people. There are reasons why women explains and target the powers of men. If you don't understand that, then you still have room to understand really what leftism is about.
We don't attack men, we explains that men have ALL the power and in this patriarcal society, its hurting EVERYONE.
Its not us who pushes those men toward bigotry, its the far right, confusionnist and anti woke people who are doing everything to convince them and suceeding.
We already tried to be nice and pedagogue with everyone. Its not working. Being nice and giving scientific data to a person that don't want to listen is USELESS. People don't go to the far right and confusionnist anti woke side because they were not convinced, people go there because they ALREADY HAD SEXIST/RACIST/CAPITALIST value in them.
And the reason is simple : its all about the capitals of those person in the first place. What I explained to you in my previous post. If you don't understand this basic sociologic principle you will not understand the left.
People who are already priviledged will not naturally question their place of priviledge.
This is the complete opposite. We know how to change things and we propose things. But we are not heard simply because the conservative right and the liberals prevent us from accessing to power. So yes, we scream.
No indeed, they were also killed by disease, sometimes transmitted even intentionnaly by europeeans. The rest were massacred.
Not it didn't "only" do that. THe massacre is a documented fact. This was a genocide through and through. The biggest in human history.
And you keep denying it.
I didn't missunderstand anything. That quote is explaning the same thing that i'm saying. Its a quote against your argumentation.
WOW you are lucky ! It happens that both author and sociologist (Moema Libera Viezzer and Marcelo Grondin) who worked on this book are brazilian. So you might wanna check them.
I found this links (I can't read Portuguese)
https://www.pressenza.com/pt-pt/2021/09/abya-yala-um-livro-para-mudar-a-geografia-mental/
https://www.amazon.com.br/Genocídio-Sobrevivência-Povos-Originários-Américas/dp/658913801X
My version is this one, it include one more section about the genocide of the native population of Canada by an historian
https://www.amazon.fr/génocide-Amériques-Marcel-Grondin-ebook/dp/B0BBLBM9SF
Yes they did mate. Death by epidemics is just aportion of all the death.
(and death by starvation, in this case intended, is still part of the genocide)
Well, it was literally documented by the colonizer themselves.... so....
Not really no.. but denying scientific researches is kind of a sport with you.. so I'm not surprised.
This is pretty much a scientific consensus mate... The the sources are all the anthropologist, historian and sociologist working on the subject.. I don't think this is just two or three or ten researchers...
Well, most scientist working in social sciences are leftists so.. yeah, it might be some leftist lmao
Those who want to hurt people are not leftist mate...
?
In France we have a Law that prevent the denial of the "shoah". But only this one genocide. There is no laws against the denial of what we did in Africa for example. Concerning the definition, A genocide is something that was defined as followed by the UN:
"
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
- Killing members of the group;
- Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
- Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part
- Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group
- Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group
"
https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml#:~:text=To constitute genocide, there must,to simply disperse a group.
Its not hatred, its frustration. They are an oppressed group and we are the oppressors. Its logical for them to feel completely frustrated by what they live.
Its not. Its really not. When we see "we need less white men" in structures of power (for example). This is NOT an attack, this is factual. We need less white men in structures of power because the fact that we have so much is proven to be hurtfull because this is a priviledged class of people. There are reasons why women explains and target the powers of men. If you don't understand that, then you still have room to understand really what leftism is about.
We don't attack men, we explains that men have ALL the power and in this patriarcal society, its hurting EVERYONE.
Its not us who pushes those men toward bigotry, its the far right, confusionnist and anti woke people who are doing everything to convince them and suceeding.
We already tried to be nice and pedagogue with everyone. Its not working. Being nice and giving scientific data to a person that don't want to listen is USELESS. People don't go to the far right and confusionnist anti woke side because they were not convinced, people go there because they ALREADY HAD SEXIST/RACIST/CAPITALIST value in them.
And the reason is simple : its all about the capitals of those person in the first place. What I explained to you in my previous post. If you don't understand this basic sociologic principle you will not understand the left.
People who are already priviledged will not naturally question their place of priviledge.
This is the complete opposite. We know how to change things and we propose things. But we are not heard simply because the conservative right and the liberals prevent us from accessing to power. So yes, we scream.
No indeed, they were also killed by disease, sometimes transmitted even intentionnaly by europeeans. The rest were massacred.
Not it didn't "only" do that. THe massacre is a documented fact. This was a genocide through and through. The biggest in human history.
And you keep denying it.
I didn't missunderstand anything. That quote is explaning the same thing that i'm saying. Its a quote against your argumentation.
WOW you are lucky ! It happens that both author and sociologist (Moema Libera Viezzer and Marcelo Grondin) who worked on this book are brazilian. So you might wanna check them.
I found this links (I can't read Portuguese)
https://www.pressenza.com/pt-pt/2021/09/abya-yala-um-livro-para-mudar-a-geografia-mental/
https://www.amazon.com.br/Genocídio-Sobrevivência-Povos-Originários-Américas/dp/658913801X
My version is this one, it include one more section about the genocide of the native population of Canada by an historian
https://www.amazon.fr/génocide-Amériques-Marcel-Grondin-ebook/dp/B0BBLBM9SF
Yes they did mate. Death by epidemics is just aportion of all the death.
(and death by starvation, in this case intended, is still part of the genocide)
Well, it was literally documented by the colonizer themselves.... so....
Not really no.. but denying scientific researches is kind of a sport with you.. so I'm not surprised.
This is pretty much a scientific consensus mate... The the sources are all the anthropologist, historian and sociologist working on the subject.. I don't think this is just two or three or ten researchers...
Well, most scientist working in social sciences are leftists so.. yeah, it might be some leftist lmao
Those who want to hurt people are not leftist mate...
Post-WW2 Germany is the globalist's bitch. Have fun sharing your country with a horde migrants that don't share your valeus.
For some reason,i'm not surprised about this. Academics in Brazil are 99.9% left wing and the narrative that vilifies the portuguese colonization is a staple here. You know,got make people hate their history to kill that nationalistic sentiment.
Post automatically merged:
For some reason,i'm not surprised about this. Academics in Brazil are 99.9% left wing and the narrative that vilifies the portuguese colonization is a staple here. You know,got make people hate their history to kill that nationalistic sentiment.
Last edited:
And I'm full migrant and I'm against uncontrolled immigrantion as well as folks who refuse to integrate into society and being a productive member. You can have your believes and culture BUT it is necessary to integrate into the country your living and don't be a parasite who lives from taxes, there enough Hartz IV already 
leftism is the status quo
the media and the goverment are left leaning not right
Post automatically merged:
cnn - left wing
biden - left wing
treadeau - left wing
disney - left wing
where's the right system
right wing = counter culture
left wing = status quo/establishment
all of news media,goverment and entertainment are left wing.
there's good faith argument of left wing not being the status quo
Last edited:
And I'm full migrant and I'm against uncontrolled immigrantion as well as folks who refuse to integrate into society and being a productive member. You can have your believes and culture BUT it is necessary to integrate into the country your living and don't be a parasite who lives from taxes, there enough Hartz IV already
your a self desribed miltant
somebody who will never give into crititism or logic regardless of validity
you quite literally are the exact opposite of somebody who questions themselves
tomato tomato
people like you gonna defend women regardless if they muredered hundreds of men
cause femminsim at it's core is about advocating and defending women
if all the women are pieces of shit then who cares, the goal is defend and adovcate
everything else be damned
context,reason and logic
in modern day, america the women only can be opressed by virtue of income class
any gender based opression is just leftist idealogical belief and nothing more just fantasy like the many man made tales of god
just a fiction as the reality being most of the most the media and poticians are liberals just like you
maybe they parrot the views you hold for money or some shit but regardless they still parrot them and uphold them publicly
so the system at least publicly is pro women not pro men
patrirchy is false
opression of women is false
the notions of leftism are just a belief like christanity
it's just a retarded regliilion
only difference is that it's secular
the idea of men opressing women is retarded bs if women were really opressed they would be expected to shut the fuck up and do as their told instead their celebrated for saying men are shit
yea such a male centric system that it encourages people to hate men
almost like leftsim is the system
you still living in ragan era america, it's 2024
there is no christan fundamentalists who hold power anymore
and im glad for that, they were extreme calling everything they disliked satanism
however the left has become the same way denoucing everything as far right or facism
it's the same shit as before just different idiots in charge
somebody who will never give into crititism or logic regardless of validity
you quite literally are the exact opposite of somebody who questions themselves
tomato tomato
people like you gonna defend women regardless if they muredered hundreds of men
cause femminsim at it's core is about advocating and defending women
if all the women are pieces of shit then who cares, the goal is defend and adovcate
everything else be damned
context,reason and logic
in modern day, america the women only can be opressed by virtue of income class
any gender based opression is just leftist idealogical belief and nothing more just fantasy like the many man made tales of god
just a fiction as the reality being most of the most the media and poticians are liberals just like you
maybe they parrot the views you hold for money or some shit but regardless they still parrot them and uphold them publicly
so the system at least publicly is pro women not pro men
patrirchy is false
opression of women is false
the notions of leftism are just a belief like christanity
it's just a retarded regliilion
only difference is that it's secular
the idea of men opressing women is retarded bs if women were really opressed they would be expected to shut the fuck up and do as their told instead their celebrated for saying men are shit
yea such a male centric system that it encourages people to hate men
almost like leftsim is the system
you still living in ragan era america, it's 2024
there is no christan fundamentalists who hold power anymore
and im glad for that, they were extreme calling everything they disliked satanism
however the left has become the same way denoucing everything as far right or facism
it's the same shit as before just different idiots in charge
Last edited:
the idea that black people cant help themselves cause white people are better and not opressed
is inherently racist.
you help cause in the mind of a leftist, black people are not able to help themselves due to how much more priviliged then black people
it has no nuance if all blacks are opressed and whites are priviliged evil opressor
then is lebron james opressed and a random homeless white dude opressor
it's a dumb belief system
the natives were using primitive weapons like spears and bows
it's easy to see how somebody with muskets and flintlocks could easily conquer and kill them
superior fire power is everything in a fight espesically in a large group conflict
the idea that people should mandated to accept transgenders else be charged with hate speech crimes is stupid
on the other hand if they wanna dress in a certain manner and do surgeries to look more female they should be allowed
transgenders should have the freedom to act as they wish and people who oppose should have the freedom to disagree with them
ideallly respectfully but yknow how convo's get heated
and im more on the pro trans side cause it's just arguments from liberty and freedom
respect them or not, they should still have the freedom to act as they want
is inherently racist.
you help cause in the mind of a leftist, black people are not able to help themselves due to how much more priviliged then black people
it has no nuance if all blacks are opressed and whites are priviliged evil opressor
then is lebron james opressed and a random homeless white dude opressor
it's a dumb belief system
Post automatically merged:
the natives were using primitive weapons like spears and bows
it's easy to see how somebody with muskets and flintlocks could easily conquer and kill them
superior fire power is everything in a fight espesically in a large group conflict
Post automatically merged:
the idea that people should mandated to accept transgenders else be charged with hate speech crimes is stupid
on the other hand if they wanna dress in a certain manner and do surgeries to look more female they should be allowed
transgenders should have the freedom to act as they wish and people who oppose should have the freedom to disagree with them
ideallly respectfully but yknow how convo's get heated
and im more on the pro trans side cause it's just arguments from liberty and freedom
respect them or not, they should still have the freedom to act as they want
Last edited:
Black powder firearm take forever to load and have poor accuracy. What Europpeans had going for them that gave them the upper hand were plate armor,horses,spears,swords,bows,crossbows and cannons. The natives had clubs and crude bows basically. Still,the Portuguese and Spanish stablished colonies,married the locals and created the Portuguese and Spanish empires in Latin America. Portugal forbid the Portuguese women of settling in the colony (i suspect the spaniards did the same),so the portuguese man had to marry the natives. The narrative that Iberians went around killing everyone is a gross falacy and propaganda aimed to demorilize both Latin Americans and Iberians.
Strong right wing history that's switched to anti-Trump because it brought them viewership and money(CNN even admitted to this)
Center right
In the last 10 years because it was making them money. They are now canceling projects and dialing it back because it's losing them profits
Fox News, NBC,etc. Democratic Party is also right wing.
Status quo
Why are conservatives right wing? Because they want to conserve the status quo.
Center right
In the last 10 years because it was making them money. They are now canceling projects and dialing it back because it's losing them profits
Fox News, NBC,etc. Democratic Party is also right wing.
Status quo
Why are conservatives right wing? Because they want to conserve the status quo.
"For some reason" ?
Really ?
"For some reason" ?
O... M... G...
How long will I need to keep saying this until you start understanding it ? How long will I need to keep repeating the same thing until you stop ignoring it ?
I have explained that reason time.. and time.. and times again...
If academics are all leftist its because science is on the side of progress
Science is not leftist, its leftism that is scientific(ally based).
The reason you find so much leftism among academician is because the scientific researches are demonstrating that leftist is the best way toward progress. Its not a magic trick or a massive conspiration. Its just that leftism is basing its ideology on science.
How many time will I need to explain this basic principle before you start really listening ?
Liberals
Conservative
Far rightist
Are ALL basing their reasonning on myths. Leftist do not (at least not for the most part).
Hello fascism.
I won't go again with you on this one.
No its not and I demonstrated why multiple times. You choosed to ignore my argumentation. Ok, but don't engage on that topic anymore.
Read that:
And if after that you still have the balls to tell me that I can't question myself.. then we might have a problem and we might get to a more personal ground if you know what I mean.
Why the F are you doing this comparison ? Are you sane ? We are talking about women frustrated to be oppressed here. Stop with the incel BS
I demonstrated that this assertion was wrong based on scientific researches. And you keep being ignorant about it. You are talking about me be incapable of questionning myself yet you are completely unable to aknowledge science and researches on the subject.
Spoilers: They are Einstein.
Well that's what most schools are. There is no hierarchy in school. The relationship teacher/studient is not based on hierarchy, its based on respect. If teachers loses the respect, there is no relationship and no trust anymore.
You can add coercitive mesures to keep studiants at bay, but that's all.
Indeed. Its racist.
That's not what leftists think.
But you don't really care about what leftists think you only care about the vision you have of leftist thinking.
There is no such thing as "hate speech crime"
Indeed, there are some rare exceptions to this rule
Well for once.. I agree with you.
Sorry, my mistake, I forgot to write that you were also denying the genocide.
Sure ^^
Really ?
"For some reason" ?
O... M... G...
How long will I need to keep saying this until you start understanding it ? How long will I need to keep repeating the same thing until you stop ignoring it ?
I have explained that reason time.. and time.. and times again...
If academics are all leftist its because science is on the side of progress
Science is not leftist, its leftism that is scientific(ally based).
The reason you find so much leftism among academician is because the scientific researches are demonstrating that leftist is the best way toward progress. Its not a magic trick or a massive conspiration. Its just that leftism is basing its ideology on science.
How many time will I need to explain this basic principle before you start really listening ?
Liberals
Conservative
Far rightist
Are ALL basing their reasonning on myths. Leftist do not (at least not for the most part).
Hello fascism.
I won't go again with you on this one.
No its not and I demonstrated why multiple times. You choosed to ignore my argumentation. Ok, but don't engage on that topic anymore.
Read that:
And if after that you still have the balls to tell me that I can't question myself.. then we might have a problem and we might get to a more personal ground if you know what I mean.
Why the F are you doing this comparison ? Are you sane ? We are talking about women frustrated to be oppressed here. Stop with the incel BS
I demonstrated that this assertion was wrong based on scientific researches. And you keep being ignorant about it. You are talking about me be incapable of questionning myself yet you are completely unable to aknowledge science and researches on the subject.
Spoilers: They are Einstein.
Well that's what most schools are. There is no hierarchy in school. The relationship teacher/studient is not based on hierarchy, its based on respect. If teachers loses the respect, there is no relationship and no trust anymore.
You can add coercitive mesures to keep studiants at bay, but that's all.
Indeed. Its racist.
That's not what leftists think.
But you don't really care about what leftists think you only care about the vision you have of leftist thinking.
There is no such thing as "hate speech crime"
Indeed, there are some rare exceptions to this rule
Well for once.. I agree with you.
Sorry, my mistake, I forgot to write that you were also denying the genocide.
Sure ^^