C4N going on another crazy rant.
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Please tell me what this is.
C4N means "CarrotforNakama" it was my last username. people are still calling me that out of disrespect :shocking:

is for people to stop telling them they can't do something
Saying that white people have more priviledges than racialized people and saying that black people can't do something because of their skin colors are two very different things:

- One is a racist statement
- The other is a description of an instutionalized reality

The fact that black people have less priviledges doesn't mean that they can't do the same as others. It just means that they will most likely need to do twice the effort because the system and the people composing this system will be against them.


the Democrats have no desire to truly fix
Indeed. This is why leftists like me are usually against democrates and liberals.


@Logiko I'm down to hear Trump's racist actions with receipts. Perhaps I missed them, but I am very open to becoming informed. Was it when he made it easier for black-owned businesses? Or was it when he reversed a law Biden was a part of that unequally affected black people and gave them second chances from unfair sentences?
That was not my statement. My statement was that Trump was the most racist, no that he made racist executive actions.. He actually didn't had a lot of time and power to do that. But since we are going there, he still did. The biggest ones being the Travel Ban/Muslim ban and the ban on the providing of critical training on race and sex discrimination on federal employee.

Overall, Trump's racist inclination is documented here
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8250541/

You see, the problem with Trump is not really what he did in term of executive, its what he purposefully enabled. And what he enable was the growth of racism and the far right white supremacist groups in all the strats of society through everything from his tweets to his public meetings to the people he hired and the people he spitted on. And right now, Trump is literally using Nazi and crypto fascist and racist rethoric to appeal to the far right masses.

Trump's history with racism is a documented fact. This is not the case with Biden.

Not saying that Biden is cool (he is not, he is supporting the Genocide in Gaza FFS) but those are not the same administrations at all.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/01/trump-black-americans-policies-433744


with like any white people in the world
What you don't understand is that saying that all white people have racist biases is not a statement coming from hate, but knowledge. This observations is related to the fact that we all live in a society where white people have more priviledges and are taught that their priviledges are more legitimate than those of racialized people. (more subtly of course)

Let's say a couple has four kids. The oldest two females and the youngest two males.

The oldest two are held to be responsible and accountable for the younger ones. They are held to higher standards in everyday tasks growing up. Now the younger two get treated more softly since it's a first son and the baby of the family. The daughters naturally join in on the babying and hand outs to their younger siblings.

Fast forward. All children are grown in their 30s. The older two have successful careers, they have ownership over things, they handle responsibilities for themselves and others..........
What is interesting with your example, is that you are actually demonstrating one of the problem I try to fight: Its the fact that we ask to girls to take responsibilities for two boys. This is basically a representation of patriarchy in a fraternity.

What is less interesting and borderline fallacious on the other hand with that example, is that you are equating the situation where people are being deresponsibilized since childhood and therefore lacking the sence of responsabilities (like men in heteronormative relationship) with the situation where people are being given taught that society are against them and how to counter that.

In short you are equating those two situations as if they were both deresponsibilizing when this is not the case. One CAN in SOME CASES be indeed be deresponsibilizing. But this is not the case for the other that is just the principle of equity applied to society.

For your example to be correct (and represent the reality of the world correctly) you would need to add one more parameter to the first example : prevention of action. In this case, the two boys should be unable or prevented by an exterior or interior force to do any type of actions (probably due to a physical condition) and it would be the explanation onto why the two older girls are taking care of them (even tho this would be a very terrible education system from the parents). Only here you would create an equivalence in both situation as both situation would be the representation of people being pushed down by a forces (interior - disease - or exterior - systemic racism - ) preventing them to move forward...

... But of course it would also means that the result of the situations would be highly different 30 years later, as both situation would requiere a constant exterior help for the agents to move in society and in NO WAY would this help negate the possibility for them to be accountable or responsible for their actions.

"We"?
Thought you were a guy. Did you gender swap too?
Woops, typing error, I meant "when"


Exactly,i keep telling the kids around here they can all be billionaires. Its all about hard work.
Are you a billionnaire ?
 

Zemmi

GodMommie
This is a thing,but not everyone that gets this treatment ends ups a bum.
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I need to get some of these bitches from my ignore list,otherwise i will miss these rants.
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"We"?
Thought you were a guy. Did you gender swap too?
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Exactly,i keep telling the kids around here they can all be billionaires. Its all about hard work.
I just used that as an example so I could slide in a secret vent about my brothers that I love dearly but sometimes I don't get them.

Billionaire is a huge reach, but I think people can achieve their dreams and live comfortably. I have been debating with my daughter since she was 3 because she is determined to be a teacher. 1.) Because her value (to me) is more than a teacher's income 2.) Because young people are different these days. I would never. And that is saying a lot because if you asked the principals of my high school what student was the hardest to deal with they would say me. They all loved me though.
 
North Atlantic bros,how common is such behaviour up there?
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I just used that as an example so I could slide in a secret vent about my brothers that I love dearly but sometimes I don't get them.

Billionaire is a huge reach, but I think people can achieve their dreams and live comfortably. I have been debating with my daughter since she was 3 because she is determined to be a teacher. 1.) Because her value (to me) is more than a teacher's income 2.) Because young people are different these days. I would never. And that is saying a lot because if you asked the principals of my high school what student was the hardest to deal with they would say me. They all loved me though.
I was joking with the billionarie stuff. Some people do have delusional dreams. "President", "Work on Nasa" ,"Be a billionaire", "Be the new Mia khalifa/Sasha Grey", "Be Pirate King" and so on...
 

Zemmi

GodMommie
I will respond in full to you later @Logiko because I need to get back to my writing project. I do want to say one thing I do believe there are systematic problems I just believe you are wrong from where it stems from.

Someone earlier said I loved Trump or something. That is far from the truth. The only thing I love about Trump that both Democrats and Republicans hate is he's not for sale. How I would love to reach a position I didn't have a price tag. Now I enjoyed my lifestyle while he was president (not sure why I typed pregnant at first lol), Even though some find it entertaining. He would have been one of the best presidents ever with policy if they just duct-taped his mouth and took the internet from him.
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North Atlantic bros,how common is such behaviour up there?
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I was joking with the billionarie stuff. Some people do have delusional dreams. "President", "Work on Nasa" ,"Be a billionaire", "Be the new Mia khalifa/Sasha Grey", "Be Pirate King" and so on...
Like ridiculous Luffy, he doesn't realize buggy is going to pirate king.
 
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C4N means "CarrotforNakama" it was my last username. people are still calling me that out of disrespect :shocking:


Saying that white people have more priviledges than racialized people and saying that black people can't do something because of their skin colors are two very different things:

- One is a racist statement
- The other is a description of an instutionalized reality

The fact that black people have less priviledges doesn't mean that they can't do the same as others. It just means that they will most likely need to do twice the effort because the system and the people composing this system will be against them.



Indeed. This is why leftists like me are usually against democrates and liberals.




That was not my statement. My statement was that Trump was the most racist, no that he made racist executive actions.. He actually didn't had a lot of time and power to do that. But since we are going there, he still did. The biggest ones being the Travel Ban/Muslim ban and the ban on the providing of critical training on race and sex discrimination on federal employee.

Overall, Trump's racist inclination is documented here
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8250541/

You see, the problem with Trump is not really what he did in term of executive, its what he purposefully enabled. And what he enable was the growth of racism and the far right white supremacist groups in all the strats of society through everything from his tweets to his public meetings to the people he hired and the people he spitted on. And right now, Trump is literally using Nazi and crypto fascist and racist rethoric to appeal to the far right masses.

Trump's history with racism is a documented fact. This is not the case with Biden.

Not saying that Biden is cool (he is not, he is supporting the Genocide in Gaza FFS) but those are not the same administrations at all.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/01/trump-black-americans-policies-433744



What you don't understand is that saying that all white people have racist biases is not a statement coming from hate, but knowledge. This observations is related to the fact that we all live in a society where white people have more priviledges and are taught that their priviledges are more legitimate than those of racialized people. (more subtly of course)



What is interesting with your example, is that you are actually demonstrating one of the problem I try to fight: Its the fact that we ask to girls to take responsibilities for two boys. This is basically a representation of patriarchy in a fraternity.

What is less interesting and borderline fallacious on the other hand with that example, is that you are equating the situation where people are being deresponsibilized since childhood and therefore lacking the sence of responsabilities (like men in heteronormative relationship) with the situation where people are being given taught that society are against them and how to counter that.

In short you are equating those two situations as if they were both deresponsibilizing when this is not the case. One CAN in SOME CASES be indeed be deresponsibilizing. But this is not the case for the other that is just the principle of equity applied to society.

For your example to be correct (and represent the reality of the world correctly) you would need to add one more parameter to the first example : prevention of action. In this case, the two boys should be unable or prevented by an exterior or interior force to do any type of actions (probably due to a physical condition) and it would be the explanation onto why the two older girls are taking care of them (even tho this would be a very terrible education system from the parents). Only here you would create an equivalence in both situation as both situation would be the representation of people being pushed down by a forces (interior - disease - or exterior - systemic racism - ) preventing them to move forward...

... But of course it would also means that the result of the situations would be highly different 30 years later, as both situation would requiere a constant exterior help for the agents to move in society and in NO WAY would this help negate the possibility for them to be accountable or responsible for their actions.


Woops, typing error, I meant "when"



Are you a billionnaire ?
not out of disrespect,peole just remember you as c4n. Just like i still call Solis his original UN.
 

Zemmi

GodMommie
One last thing before I go. I do have faith in this newer generation coming up. Seems like they are getting about tired of being told they are held back by race. I'm looking forward to seeing them move into the political realm. :shocking:
 
One last thing before I go. I do have faith in this newer generation coming up. Seems like they are getting about tired of being told they are held back by race. I'm looking forward to seeing them move into the political realm. :shocking:
yep,seems kids are waking up to the left and woke bullshit too. Just the other day i heard some kids in the streets talking about how anyone that votes left is mental. thank god for the internet.
 
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Joe Biden would literally be called far to the right in Europe . Bernie would be Centrist and yet people call him commie .
I think health should be basic right for every individual :handsup: call me libtard and whatever you want it’s wild how people in USA are brainwashed to believe public healthcare is communist agenda which should be individual right .

And yeah Second Amendment Brauh for some reason I don’t understand why Civilian should have high grade Military weapon . I personally dont understand politics in USA but whatever :jay-yeah:
 
Joe Biden would literally be called far to the right in Europe . Bernie would be Centrist and yet people call him commie .
I think health should be basic right for every individual :handsup: call me libtard and whatever you want it’s wild how people in USA are brainwashed to believe public healthcare is communist agenda which should be individual right .

And yeah Second Amendment Brauh for some reason I don’t understand why Civilian should have high grade Military weapon . I personally dont understand politics in USA but whatever :jay-yeah:
You don't understand why the second ammendent is a thing? Visit Rio de Janeiro and go to a favela and you will ge your answer.
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Trump is an idiot but Biden increased Trump's chances.
Grab them by the p**sy round two is upon us:saden:
How do Americans always manage to destroy everything?
To be fair,Trump is the best thing they had in a while. The others are just clowns. Obama was a tragedy too.
 
You don't understand why the second ammendent is a thing? Visit Rio de Janeiro and go to a favela and you will ge your answer.
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To be fair,Trump is the best thing they had in a while. The others are just clowns. Obama was a tragedy too.
Rio is in Brazil eitherway not much idea on Brazil politics other than football.

Question is about people in America possessing high grade Military weapons . Everyday I see report some school shooting in the news am I like why people are allowed to have one ? :snoopy:
 
Rio is in Brazil eitherway not much idea on Brazil politics other than football.

Question is about people in America possessing high grade Military weapons . Everyday I see report some school shooting in the news am I like why people are allowed to have one ? :snoopy:
Well,so does Panama,Paraguai,Israel,Switzerland and so on.These places don't suffer from constant mass shootings and yet have such weaponry available to the average joe. Guns don't go floating around shooting people. America has a mental illness/malice problem. They have psychosocial problem,not a gun problem. Look up the statistics and you will see there are hundreds of thousands of defensive gun uses in America every year. Without guns,murder rates would skyrocket in America.
 
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yep,seems kids are waking up to the left and woke bullshit too. Just the other day i heard in the streets talking about how anyone that votes left is mental. thank god for the internet.
The world would be better if it was just a bit more conservative imo. Woke is a no go, and their inconsistencies... Racism wasn't ever an actual issue but a certain administration cause it to snowball and set relations back several steps. People will always have/believe in stereotypes until the people/an individual breaks that. BLM Summer of Love, all the looting etc... Also on the other side The White Knighting/Savior complexes. Oh and no to mention the Reparations, It's lunacy crap talk imo.
This is of course imo.
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Joe Biden would literally be called far to the right in Europe . Bernie would be Centrist and yet people call him commie .
I think health should be basic right for every individual :handsup: call me libtard and whatever you want it’s wild how people in USA are brainwashed to believe public healthcare is communist agenda which should be individual right .

And yeah Second Amendment Brauh for some reason I don’t understand why Civilian should have high grade Military weapon . I personally dont understand politics in USA but whatever :jay-yeah:
Everytime I hear of the universal Healthcare or whatever I keep thinking how actual bad the system actual is in practice. At least from what I've heard explained for Canada. Things are not perfect and they could be absolutely better, But it's Ultimately up to how it's practices and having standards and people held accountable etc... imo
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Trump is an idiot but Biden increased Trump's chances.
Grab them by the p**sy round two is upon us:saden:
How do Americans always manage to destroy everything?
I would argue that you're just believing in the Bad Faith Argument. Don't understand context?
 
Joe Biden would literally be called far to the right in Europe . Bernie would be Centrist and yet people call him commie .
I think health should be basic right for every individual :handsup: call me libtard and whatever you want it’s wild how people in USA are brainwashed to believe public healthcare is communist agenda which should be individual right .

And yeah Second Amendment Brauh for some reason I don’t understand why Civilian should have high grade Military weapon . I personally dont understand politics in USA but whatever :jay-yeah:
It's called brainwashing and the demonization of government spending, especially when it comes to investing in your own people. A big chunk of the country is too stupid to even realize how they've been fucked over for decades. They'd rather place the blame on abstract concepts like the "trans agenda" instead of a system that prioritizes everything but their economic welfare.
 
Well,so does Panama,Paraguai,Israel,Switzerland and so on.These places don't suffer from constant mass shootings and yet have such weaponry available to the average joe. Guns don't go floating around shooting people. American has a mental illness/malic problem. They have psychosocial problem,not a gun problem. Look up the statistics and you will see there are hundreds of thousands of defensive gun uses in America every year. Without guns,murder rates would skyrocket in America.
Let’s not take Swiss as example . People in Schweiz don’t go around with automated gun .
I know South America street militia is wild .

At this point I think Govt also wants guns to be available . It’s a billion dollar market it’s insane it’s easily sold in Walmart . :kawak:
 
Let’s not take Swiss as example . People in Schweiß don’t go around with automated gun .
I know South America street militia is wild .

At this point I think Govt also guns to be available . It’s a billion dollar market it’s insane it’s easily sold in Walmart . :kawak:
Neither do Americans,you need a license to buy a full auto ar15(or any other full auto gun ofc).
 
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