Chapter Discussion Why Zoro went from 3 swords with advcoc to 2 swords and no advcoc

[Artem]

Then you need to read Zoro v King fight again. Its the very moment Zoro learns how to use CoC that he is able to control Enma and clouds swirl around his sword and he calls it KoH - in addition all the fodder around King drop down to the floor as Oda confirmed undoubtedly that it is due to the usage of CoC that Zoro can control Enma.

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He reached the "standard" of Enma hte moment he used and enhanced the sword with CoC. Y'all Zoro fanboys really suck at reading comprehension, read Chapter 1033 again...

Clouds around Zoro's swords is KoH and KoH is the usage of CoC to enhance his swords.

The blacksmith said that Enma only needs a lot of coa. Zoro confirmed that enma needs a lot of coa. Auden didn't know about acoc until he was 30 years old. All enma needs is a lot of coa and Zoro has shown it more than once. We saw a bunch of Zoro frames without acoc lightning but with ryoo haze (a lot of coa).

At that moment, Zoro gave the blades everything without holding back his haki. He gave literally everything, including acoc. But most importantly, the color of the coa haze changed from violet (only on enma) to green (on all three blades), which meant that now it was not enma who pulled Zoro's haki into herself, but the fact that Zoro began to INDEPENDENTLY give all his coa to three blades. If Zoro didn't have a coc, he would have restrained enma at this moment anyway.

 

[Soyz]

Are you blind enough to not see the black lightning coming from the swords?

Say what? Now i understand why pinzorofans are illiterate, its because they dont even use their eyes when reading the story

 

[JoNdule]

Say what? Now i understand why pinzorofans are illiterate, its because they dont even use their eyes when reading the story

The funny part is that we literally have green flames and haki leaks on his swords here and yet they still think Zoro didn't use KoH

 

[Terra Arseid7]

Say what? Now i understand why pinzorofans are illiterate, its because they dont even use their eyes when reading the story

That little shit that is only on one of his swords and unimportant is not ADVcoc

This is ADVcoc

 

[matt245]

Say what? Now i understand why pinzorofans are illiterate, its because they dont even use their eyes when reading the story

Yeah because all 3 swords have prominent black lightning traits like in the picture that I posted with Zoro right? As my friend above showed, it's not the first time that we see a small black lightning upon activation. Unless you are trying to make us believe that DR Zoro already had ACoC 👀

Small tip, you might stop posting those retarded takes if you both read with your eyes and understand what's happening with your brain. However, Zoro haters tend to lack a brain so that might prove too difficult for you

 

[Redboy776]

King of Hell - 3 sword style - Oni giri (ONLY green smoke)

King of Hell - 3 Dragon Style (ADVcoc) - Dragon Damnation (green smoke + Black lightning)

Logically, Zoro is not going to say "King of hell" against Lucci because he has not used any technique and also he only used the KOH in a vignette to exchange blows, nothing important, that's why I don't worry.

Understand your point but like nik say we cant just asume its koh is separate of acoc. Gonna help you abit, 1-base zoro 2-hellflame zoro (for what he used vs lucci) 3-basic advcoc zoro 3~koh zoro (level 1) 4-koh dragons (level 2) 5-koh asura

 

[HeroesNZ]

Which opponent would that be?

He already told Luffy to focus on Kizaru so doesn't intend to fight Kizaru

Just as Saturn stepped onto the island and everyone sensed him, Zoro put his 3rd sword away and has been holding Lucci off with basic haki + nitoryu. This is obvious.

Idek what people are arguing here. Even if people think Zoro was in KOH in 1093 (he wasn't), he had certainly exited KOH by 1094 as we can see him on panel using less than 3 swords.

Do people really think Zoro used KOH to clash using only nameless attacks for like 2 seconds and then turned it off? Lmfao, like it makes no sense. Zoro has been fighting in base this entire time. Hell, he's spent the majority of the fight in Nitoryu lmao. And people are tryna claim he's going all-out? The only way Zoro could use less strength is if he turned off his haki altogether lmfao.

 

[Terra Arseid7]

Understand your point but like nik say we cant just asume its koh is separate of acoc. Gonna help you abit, 1-base zoro 2-hellflame zoro (for what he used vs lucci) 3-basic advcoc zoro 3~koh zoro (level 1) 4-koh dragons (level 2) 5-koh asura

I know, but hey, I guess we have to wait and see more, we have very little information and only 2 Zoro attacks in that mode. Let's blame Zoro's high attack power

 

[M944]

These "could haves" and "would haves" are exactly what im talking about.

To me its irrelevant. If Oda wanted to show KoH Zoro w/ CoC clashing with Awakened Lucci, he would've simply drawn it this chapter. No need to suddenly draw Awakened Lucci & 2 sword, CoA Zoro.

As simple as that.

P.S. I too can go ahead and say in the time Luffy & Kizaru were fighting, Luffy "could've" or "would've" used Bajrung Gun and Kizaru blocked it.

Same for Gear 4 Luffy/Cracker/Katakuri & KKG.

But i wont. Because its faulty.

Nothing is confirmed but nothing is refuted too

Does Oda want to show KoH vs Awakened Lucci isn't the question for me as he already did
We can't say he didn't just because we see it once against Lucci

But I do agree we can't say from that one time it was drawn that Lucci = KoH Zoro

Your comparisons with Luffy doesn't work as in one case it was drawn once and in the other one it was Never drawn or implied even once

 

[ConquistadoR]

Nothing is confirmed but nothing is refuted too

Does Oda want to show KoH vs Awakened Lucci isn't the question for me as he already did
We can't say he didn't just because we see it once against Lucci

But I do agree we can't say from that one time it was drawn that Lucci = KoH Zoro

Your comparisons with Luffy doesn't work as in one case it was drawn once and in the other one it was Never drawn or implied even once

What did Oda draw?
Zoro & Lucci clashing in cqc with smoke around Zoro's swords.

What you want from it?
Assuming offpanel that Zoro used named KoH moves w/ CoC and Lucci remains unscathed.

Reality? Nitoryu CoA Zoro clashing with Lucci still with the fight being stuck in stalling hell.

Not so hard to see where we disagree.

 

[M944]

Just as Saturn stepped onto the island and everyone sensed him, Zoro put his 3rd sword away and has been holding Lucci off with basic haki + nitoryu. This is obvious.

Idek what people are arguing here. Even if people think Zoro was in KOH in 1093 (he wasn't), he had certainly exited KOH by 1094 as we can see him on panel using less than 3 swords.

Do people really think Zoro used KOH to clash using only nameless attacks for like 2 seconds and then turned it off? Lmfao, like it makes no sense. Zoro has been fighting in base this entire time. Hell, he's spent the majority of the fight in Nitoryu lmao. And people are tryna claim he's going all-out? The only way Zoro could use less strength is if he turned off his haki altogether lmfao.

Thinking Zoro will fight Saturn he's just retarded as fuck

As for Zoro he did used KoH wheter it was before 1094 or After we know for a fact that he did use it against Lucci

 

[HA001]

Nothing is confirmed but nothing is refuted too

Does Oda want to show KoH vs Awakened Lucci isn't the question for me as he already did
We can't say he didn't just because we see it once against Lucci

But I do agree we can't say from that one time it was drawn that Lucci = KoH Zoro

Your comparisons with Luffy doesn't work as in one case it was drawn once and in the other one it was Never drawn or implied even once

Zoro not using koh is confirmed.

There is no panel of koh being shown

Never has zoro used koh with a tiny spark on one sword

 

[HA001]

Thinking Zoro will fight Saturn he's just retarded as fuck

As for Zoro he did used KoH wheter it was before 1094 or After we know for a fact that he did use it against Lucci

No he didnt this your cope cause you know lucci about to be one shot and luffy about to look like a bum

 

[DavyJones]

KoH or not those were flames on Zoro's swords, mans was using CoC. Zoro has had plenty of super strong haki displays, and he didn't pull out the green flames until Kings fight where King saw it as a sign of CoC.

Thats cool though, Lucci isn't a push over and CoC isn't the instant win a lot of people think it is

 

[HA001]

KoH or not those were flames on Zoro's swords, mans was using CoC. Zoro has had plenty of super strong haki displays, and he didn't pull out the green flames until Kings fight where King saw it as a sign of CoC.

Thats cool though, Lucci isn't a push over and CoC isn't the instant win a lot of people think it is

The flames have never been coc

 

[matt245]

those were flames on Zoro's swords, mans was using CoC

Those flames appeared when he held Emma for the first time. Are you trying to say that Zoro used ACoC before ACoC was even a thing? Come on

 

[DavyJones]

The flames have never been coc

Yes they are and so is Ashura.

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Those flames appeared when he held Emma for the first time. Are you trying to say that Zoro used ACoC before ACoC was even a thing? Come on

And yeah he also used ACoA before it was a thing

 

[matt245]

And yeah he used ACoA before it was a thing

Why are you dodging the question dawg? Asked about ACoC not ACoA

 

[DavyJones]

Why are you dodging the question dawg? Asked about ACoC not ACoA

"He also used ACoA..." as in ALSO.

Enma autodraws haki and he didn't realize he needed to feed it ACoC. Unless you think ACoC was thought up literally on the rooftop.

 

[matt245]

"He also used ACoA..." as in ALSO.

Enma autodraws haki and he didn't realize he needed to feed it ACoC. Unless you think ACoC was thought up literally on the rooftop.

Yeah, thanks for clarifying that you are too delusional to be worth talking too. Looking at only the smoke and then at the huge black lightning traits that he left (when he did use ACoC) and going "yeah, they look exactly the same" is diabolical