General & Others With last chapter, can we say Blackbeard is final villain ?

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#41
One of the standout question about God’s Valley is why Garp and Roger, two characters who we are are clearly meant to think of as “good”, fought against Rocks instead of alongside him, when the Celestial Dragons were there.

If it is Blackbeard that Shanks warned the Celestial Dragons about, then that’s another example of a “good” character choosing the Celestial Dragons over someone who has clearly inherited Rocks’s will.

If Garp, Roger and Shanks are all rationalising the Celestial Dragons as being the lesser evil to Rocks/Blackbeard achieving their dream of being King of the World, then that would be what could make Blackbeard be the final villain. The world the two of them would create is even worse than the world that Imu rules over.

Probably because Imu has created a world that, while terrible, allowing a great deal of corruption and misery and the Celestial Dragons freedom to do whatever evils they like, somewhat balances that with the Marines and locking up people like the Level 6 prisoners.

Blackbeard would do away with any protection that ordinary people have and let everyone act like a Celestial Dragon, because he doesn’t believe that justice or evil exist.
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You nailed it
 

TheAncientCenturion

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#42
No, Oda already had Whitebeard tell us that the One Piece will be found then a Great War the World Government fears will happen.

Teach ambushed Law & formally removed him from the race to be the pirate king, Teach has Pudding to read the Rubbings, Teach has been after the Man with the Burned Scar for a year now.

Everything about his recent goals has been setting him up for the pirate king race. A race he will lose to Luffy.
 
#43
No, Oda already had Whitebeard tell us that the One Piece will be found then a Great War the World Government fears will happen.

Teach ambushed Law & formally removed him from the race to be the pirate king, Teach has Pudding to read the Rubbings, Teach has been after the Man with the Burned Scar for a year now.

Everything about his recent goals has been setting him up for the pirate king race. A race he will lose to Luffy.
Basically.

And it was implied multiple times.
 
#46
No, Oda already had Whitebeard tell us that the One Piece will be found then a Great War the World Government fears will happen.

Teach ambushed Law & formally removed him from the race to be the pirate king, Teach has Pudding to read the Rubbings, Teach has been after the Man with the Burned Scar for a year now.

Everything about his recent goals has been setting him up for the pirate king race. A race he will lose to Luffy.
That's just a steeping stone for Blackbeard, as is everything else he's done in his quest for his true goal.

Shiki told Roger "With that treasure you have, we can rule the World."

So even if the Straw Hats make it to Laughtale and get the One Piece first, that puts them directly in Teach's line of sight. He will be coming for that treasure, because ruling the World is his true objective. He's not just gonna give up because someone finds it first.
 
#48
Luffy wants to be King of the Sea (aka pirates), as in The Freest.
Teach wants to be King of the World (aka replace WG), as in The Supreme Tyrant.
Both need OP to reach either position.
Which is a fascinating thought because if One Piece is needed to topple the govt to achieve said goal, then it would imply that Blackbeard (in this case, hes not the protagonist) "would" have to lose prior by that logic.

I definitely dont think he's next (i would sooner believe Akainu or something first or some other isolated Elbaf threat), but final antagonist doesn't seem like it either.
 
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#50
That's just a steeping stone for Blackbeard, as is everything else he's done in his quest for his true goal.

Shiki told Roger "With that treasure you have, we can rule the World."

So even if the Straw Hats make it to Laughtale and get the One Piece first, that puts them directly in Teach's line of sight. He will be coming for that treasure, because ruling the World is his true objective. He's not just gonna give up because someone finds it first.
That would defeat the purpose of him defeating Law for his RPs then tbh. Imo Blackbeard, CG, Luffy and Shanks at least need to clash for the chance to get to One Piece first and Lodestar "feels" like an appropriate place for it to occur, right before LT.

Whether more than one group gets to LT after that and they continue to face Luffy is another guess entirely though.
 

TheAncientCenturion

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#51
That's just a steeping stone for Blackbeard, as is everything else he's done in his quest for his true goal.

Shiki told Roger "With that treasure you have, we can rule the World."

So even if the Straw Hats make it to Laughtale and get the One Piece first, that puts them directly in Teach's line of sight. He will be coming for that treasure, because ruling the World is his true objective. He's not just gonna give up because someone finds it first.
Blackbeards story progress the past 60 chapters has been aimed at reaching Laughtale. He’s going to fight Luffy there and lose, otherwise there’s no point in him having three rubbings and someone who can read them.
 

Bogard

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#52
We already knew the Blackbeard plot would go beyond PK ever since this picture came out



Among the ones present in this picture, we have

- Luffy, the Main character, from the D bloodline, Joyboy reincarnation, Nika viewed as an enemy by Imu
- Vivi, another D, descendant of Lily viewed as a traitor by Imu
- Shirahoshi, an ancient weapon indirectly causing a threat to Imu's rule

All being EOS plots going beyond the One Piece

Judging by the above then, it goes without saying that same is the case for Blackbeard, who's simple the evil D, with dangerous bloodline emphasized by Saturn once again this chapter

Yes Blackbeard is doing the work to get the poneglyph copies and reader(Pudding) to reach Laugh Tale and become the Pirate King, but just like with Luffy, it's just a stepping stone to his real goal(World domination). This goal is infact the reason why Whitebeard stated he wasn't the one Roger was looking for.

Roger was looking for someone carrying the will of the D from to liberate the world, but Teach is the opposite of that. He is the evil D, representing a threat to the entire world(Pirates, Civilians, Marines, World Government included), which explains itself




Infact it was already hinted earlier that Blackbeard was trying to set that plan in motion


Aiming at turning Pirate Island into one of the member of the World Government he'd be the King of, is just part of Blackbeard's infiltration plan to end up turning the World Government upside down imo(used a similar strategy with the Shichibukai title to get what he wanted), and Catarina Devon's Egghead mission that ended up with her getting to touch Saturn(one of the 5 elders in the World Government) is a further proof of that

So he is aiming for the One Piece while already looking ahead. With Cariboo(a Blackbeard fanboy) who knows the location of ancient weapons, one of them(Shirahoshi) already viewed as an existential threat to Imu, it confirms imo that Oda aims at Blackbeard playing the trouble-maker role, destabilizing the balance of Imu's rule

So yes, final villain Blackbeard is back into business imo :zehaha:
 
#54
Blackbeards story progress the past 60 chapters has been aimed at reaching Laughtale. He’s going to fight Luffy there and lose, otherwise there’s no point in him having three rubbings and someone who can read them.
That's if you completely ignore the fact that he wanted to exchange Koby for Nobility status, so he could be invited to the Reverie and gain access to Mariejois.

What does entering Mariejois have to do with becoming the Pirate King? Absolutely nothing.

But let's say for argument sake, that it's possible the final RP is located in Mariejois, as it could be used as a viable excuse as to why Blackbeard would want to go there. That would mean an all out war on Mariejois would have to occur before reaching Laughtale to begin with, in order for anyone to gain access to the final RP. Which means Imu would still fall first, and still making BB the most likely contender for final villain.
 
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#55
Blackbeards story progress the past 60 chapters has been aimed at reaching Laughtale. He’s going to fight Luffy there and lose, otherwise there’s no point in him having three rubbings and someone who can read them.
Trying to swap Coby/Garp and Devon being able to impersonate Saturn isn’t aimed at reaching Laughtale, it’s aimed at infiltrating Mariejois.
 

TheAncientCenturion

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#57
Trying to swap Coby/Garp and Devon being able to impersonate Saturn isn’t aimed at reaching Laughtale, it’s aimed at infiltrating Mariejois.
And likely to find out exactly where the man with the burned scar is, since Shiryu ominously hinted that it could be a Government figure.

Teach has put in work specifically for the PK race, whatever side hustle he has with wanting to be apart of the WG is to help him in his race to be PK.
 

TheAncientCenturion

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#58
That's if you completely ignore the fact that he wanted to exchange Koby for Nobility status, so he could be invited to the Reverie and gain access to Mariejois.

What does entering Mariejois have to do with becoming the Pirate King? Absolutely nothing.

But let's say for argument sake, that it's possible the final RP is located in Mariejois, as it could be used as a viable excuse as to why Blackbeard would want to go there. That would mean an all out war on Mariejois would have to occur before reaching Laughtale to begin with, in order for anyone to gain access to the final RP. Which means Imu would still fall first, and still making BB the most likely contender for final villain.
So, just to be clear, you think BB obtained the rubbings from Law and stole Pudding only to take a right turn to Mary Geose soon and aim at taking the world government down?
 
#59
And likely to find out exactly where the man with the burned scar is, since Shiryu ominously hinted that it could be a Government figure.

Teach has put in work specifically for the PK race, whatever side hustle he has with wanting to be apart of the WG is to help him in his race to be PK.
Also people have to keep in mind that the One Piece story is about being the Pirate King so Teach is already the biggest villain as he is the final obstacle to get to Laugh Tale.

Imu comes after becoming the Pirate King but Imu is the obstacle to the end of Luffy's dream and that's not what the story focuses on primarily.

The story has a clear focus on Luffy becoming the Pirate King and Teach has a more primary role in Luffy's journey than Imu.
 
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