General & Others With last chapter, can we say Blackbeard is final villain ?

[Garp the Fist]

They didnt even know Saturn would be at Egghead lol. This is not why they went there.

What makes you think they didn’t know he would be at Egghead?

They are surprised that he came off his ship to the surface to personally intervene, but they are happy that he did because it made their job easier. That’s why their mission is complete now they’ve touched him.

And likely to find out exactly where the man with the burned scar is, since Shiryu ominously hinted that it could be a Government figure.

Teach has put in work specifically for the PK race, whatever side hustle he has with wanting to be apart of the WG is to help him in his race to be PK.

His ultimate aim is clearly to be King of the World, not PK. If anything it’s becoming PK that will be a side hustle that he thinks will help him get to Empty Throne.

 

[MarineHQ]

Couldn't be more obvious what BB will be after especially post this chapter.

We know who the King of the World is

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

So, just to be clear, you think BB obtained the rubbings from Law and stole Pudding only to take a right turn to Mary Geose soon and aim at taking the world government down?

Like I said before. Blackbeard is aiming for the One Piece. But to him, that is just a stepping stone for his true objective, which is taking over the World. Shiki stated that with the One Piece, him and Roger could rule the World.

Devon this very chapter said that the BB Pirates main objective, is the World.

Blackbeard isn't settling for Pirate King. He wants to be King of the World. The One Piece can help him achieve that. If the Straw Hats get the One Piece first, that will not stop Blackbeard from trying to rule the World. He'll either go after them, after Luffy has already become the Pirate King to get the One Piece, or he will alter his plans. Either way, he's not stopping at just being the Pirate King.

 

[Pringles]

What makes you think they didn’t know he would be at Egghead?

They are surprised that he came off his ship to the surface to personally intervene, but they are happy that he did because it made their job easier. That’s why their mission is complete now they’ve touched him.



His ultimate aim is clearly to be King of the World, not PK. If anything it’s becoming PK that will be a side hustle that he thinks will help him get to Empty Throne.

Their mission was not about touching Saturn duh

His ultimate aim still needs the One Piece as it is extremely clear one needs to reach Laugh Tale before uncovering the secrets of the Void Century / JoyBoy and facing the World Government

Teach will not get to Laugh Tale and become the Pirate King, get your facts straight

Luffy will defeat Teach, reach Laugh Tale, become the Pirate King, learn about JoyBoy/Void Century, go to Fishman Island, fulfill JoyBoy's promise and face the World Government

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

What makes you think they didn’t know he would be at Egghead?

They are surprised that he came off his ship to the surface to personally intervene, but they are happy that he did because it made their job easier. That’s why their mission is complete now they’ve touched him.



His ultimate aim is clearly to be King of the World, not PK. If anything it’s becoming PK that will be a side hustle that he thinks will help him get to Empty Throne.

So he’s currently in the race for the One Piece though.

That’s his immediate concern given his two recent acquisitions.

Which means he’s going to fight Luffy (the only person as equipped as Teach in said race) for the One Piece.

There’s no coherent argument that Oda had Teach steal the rubbings, get someone who can read them, name drop the burned scar man & the final poneglyph in a Blackbeard flashback just for Teach to not factor into a Laughtale, Lodestar etc arc.

He’s wasted ink setting that up, which more or less locks Teach in as being defeated before Luffy becomes the pirate king

whatever larger ambitions he has doesn’t matter, Kaido and Linlin had their own plans and we see how that went for them.

 

[Pringles]

Like I said before. Blackbeard is aiming for the One Piece. But to him, that is just a stepping stone for his true objective, which is taking over the World. Shiki stated that with the One Piece, him and Roger could rule the World.

Devon this very chapter said that the BB Pirates main objective, is the World.

Blackbeard isn't settling for Pirate King. He wants to be King of the World. The One Piece can help him achieve that. If the Straw Hats get the One Piece first, that will not stop Blackbeard from trying to rule the World. He'll either go after them, after Luffy has already become the Pirate King to get the One Piece, or he will alter his plans. Either way, he's not stopping at just being the Pirate King.

Blackbeard NEEDS the One Piece to rule the world, he wants to conquer the world.

Luffy wants to be the Pirate King because to him the Pirate King is the freest and not the one who wants to conquer the world.

Luffy wants to free the world, Blackbeard wants to conquer it.

Luffy is the Sun, Blackbeard is the Darkness.

Their intentions are different but at the end, their journey is still dependent on the One Piece and reaching Laugh Tale and becoming the Pirate King, which they will need to fight for and we both know who will win this confrontation.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Like I said before. Blackbeard is aiming for the One Piece. But to him, that is just a stepping stone for his true objective, which is taking over the World. Shiki stated that with the One Piece, him and Roger could rule the World.

Devon this very chapter said that the BB Pirates main objective, is the World.

Blackbeard isn't settling for Pirate King. He wants to be King of the World. The One Piece can help him achieve that. If the Straw Hats get the One Piece first, that will not stop Blackbeard from trying to rule the World. He'll either go after them, after Luffy has already become the Pirate King to get the One Piece, or he will alter his plans. Either way, he's not stopping at just being the Pirate King.

He can be after whatever he wants—Oda is setting him up to be Luffy’s biggest rival in the race for the one piece. He will go down in this race because nobody but Luffy will be the pirate king. (Well Buggy might be co-pirate king but that’s semantics and a gag.)

 

[Pringles]

"Conquer the world with me"
"I've already planned how to do it"
"I will be the pirate king"

Anyone who thinks that Blackbeard's dream of conquering the world is not about being the Pirate King needs to read the panel below

 

[Garp the Fist]

Their mission was not about touching Saturn duh

”Glad you came down to the surface, makes our job easier.”

touches Saturn

“Mission complete”

Their mission was obviously to copy Saturn.

 

[Paperchampion23]

What makes you think they didn’t know he would be at Egghead?

They are surprised that he came off his ship to the surface to personally intervene, but they are happy that he did because it made their job easier. That’s why their mission is complete now they’ve touched him.



His ultimate aim is clearly to be King of the World, not PK. If anything it’s becoming PK that will be a side hustle that he thinks will help him get to Empty Throne.

They were at Egghead the day before news broke out. Also nobody publically knew Saturn would be on the ship assaulting Egghead.

Even fodder marines AT Egghead were shocked he was here.

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”Glad you came down to the surface, makes our job easier.”

touches Saturn

“Mission complete”

Their mission was obviously to copy Saturn.

Or to capture serephim, which makes commanding them easier

 

[Pringles]

”Glad you came down to the surface, makes our job easier.”

touches Saturn

“Mission complete”

Their mission was obviously to copy Saturn.

No it wasn't.

They came to Egghead for something that most likely relates to Blackbeard and his lineage or Seraphim/York and they were surprised to see Saturn there so they took profit to touch him and that will have a role in the future but it wasn't their initial focus.

 

[Garp the Fist]

So he’s currently in the race for the One Piece though.

That’s his immediate concern given his two recent acquisitions.

Which means he’s going to fight Luffy (the only person as equipped as Teach in said race) for the One Piece.

There’s no coherent argument that Oda had Teach steal the rubbings, get someone who can read them, name drop the burned scar man & the final poneglyph in a Blackbeard flashback just for Teach to not factor into a Laughtale, Lodestar etc arc.

He’s wasted ink setting that up, which more or less locks Teach in as being defeated before Luffy becomes the pirate king

whatever larger ambitions he has doesn’t matter, Kaido and Linlin had their own plans and we see how that went for them.

He’s also clearly wasted ink in having Devon copying Saturn and planning on becoming a member of the world gov if it doesn’t lead to Teach being heavily involved with Mariejois.

 

[Dragon777]

That's if you completely ignore the fact that he wanted to exchange Koby for Nobility status, so he could be invited to the Reverie and gain access to Mariejois.

What does entering Mariejois have to do with becoming the Pirate King? Absolutely nothing.

The fact that BB also wants to control the world doesn't change the fact that he wants to be PK and more so: he is the only credible challenger for Luffy.

Not only that, but we know form WB and Roger/Oden that the Gov. plot is related to Raftlen and is in fact after Raftel.

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Blackbeard doesnt want One Piece guys case closed /s

Its been extremely clear that in order to take down the WG (whatever your ambitions are), one NEEDS One Piece/PK in order to achieve it.

Exactly. We were told multiple times.

 

[Jailer]

No it wasn't.

They came to Egghead for something that most likely relates to Blackbeard and his lineage or Seraphim/York and they were surprised to see Saturn there so they took profit to touch him and that will have a role in the future but it wasn't their initial focus.

Bro just read the panel.

 

[Dragon777]

"Conquer the world with me"
"I've already planned how to do it"
"I will be the pirate king"

Anyone who thinks that Blackbeard's dream of conquering the world is not about being the Pirate King needs to read the panel below

And he is that only serious contender too.

Imagine removing him lol, no one serious remains.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

He’s also clearly wasted ink in having Devon copying Saturn and planning on becoming a member of the world gov if it doesn’t lead to Teach being heavily involved with Mariejois.

Unless it links back to finding the 4th poneglyph, which Oda already had a prominent member of the BB pirates toss out the theory that whoever has the 4th poneglyph is working for the government.

Copying Saturn and Teach’s goal of being a member state of the world government does not conflict with him being defeated at Laughtale

 

[Dragon777]

Unless it links back to finding the 4th poneglyph, which Oda already had a prominent member of the BB pirates toss out that whoever has the 4th poneglyph is working for the government.

Copying Saturn and Teach’s goal of being a member state of the world government does not conflict with him being defeated at Laughtale

As it did not with any other villain.

At some point Kaido and BM wanted to take on the Marine and the WG too, but that did not meant they could not be defeated in Wano.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

As it did not with any other villain.

At some point Kaido and BM wanted to take on the Marine and the WG too, but that did not meant they could not be defeated in Wano.

There’s more narrative issues with Teach being the FV than not, really.

 

[Dragon777]

There’s more narrative issues with Teach being the FV than not, really.

Surely.

Also, the very existence of Imu is the epitome of final villain. As I said, if Teach had to overthrow the WG, then letting the Gorosei remain the true leaders would have been perfect. Instead, we got Imu.

And then all the other things (WB's phrase and so on).

 

[Garp the Fist]

They were at Egghead the day before news broke out. Also nobody publically knew Saturn would be on the ship assaulting Egghead.

Even fodder marines AT Egghead were shocked he was here.

All the Blackbeard’s need is one spy in any of these Marine ranks to know that Saturn was going to Egghead. The preparations for the super buster call went to a ton of Marine bases.

There’s nothing saying that his presence was a complete secret. He wanted it kept hidden from the Strawhats and Vegapunk when he had arrived, that doesn’t mean the higher ranking Marines weren’t told the nature of their mission and who they were going with. The VAs clearly knew he was there, Doberman even spoke with him.

It’s nonsense to see them touch Saturn, say mission complete then try and argue that their mission wasn’t to touch Saturn.