Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1109 Spoilers Discussion

How long will these 10 minutes take?

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Sentry22

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Peroroncino said:
any agenda is more respectable than the luffy one, he is the mc so his agenda is like riding a bike with training wheels on while everyone else does it without them
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Luffy is just as likely to fail as any of the main cast. Given that you support Zoro, a person who admittedly said he would never lose a fight is arguably a safer option. Is it not?
 
Peroroncino

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Sentry22 said:
Luffy is just as likely to fail as any of the main cast. Given that you support Zoro, a person who admittedly said he would never lose a fight is arguably a safer option. Is it not?
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actually that just makes it more risky because if he loses a fight it will make him target for more slander.
luffy meanwhile is literally 100% guaranteed to succeed everytime without fail everytime ever
 
Paperchampion23

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Flauschmeyersche said:
From a writing perspective, do you guys also find it weird that Kizaru was this unstoppable force (from the pov of the Strawhats) in Sabaody and now he is getting toyed with like he is nothing? I understand that luffy is stronger than him but I still think that there is something missing in the middle. The power difference and the portrayal from then to now is night and day.
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Its frankly off even from this very arc. Kizaru outclassed Snakeman with little effort, something Katakuri and even Kaido had trouble with.

He even wasnt necessarily having trouble with Gear 5 until he shot one laser at Luffy who countered it with White Star Gun.

At that point, Kizaru has been entirely silly, he has NOT attacked Luffy after getting up since. He literally does the following after Kuma's flashback

Attacks Franky:


Attacks a railcar


Attacks Kuma and Bonney, only to be stopped by Luffy


Attacks them AGAIN, only to be stopped by Sanji


Attacks Vegapunk AGAIN, only to be stopped by Luffy



Not even including the 3 separate times he tries to kill VP before this point. Its a repeated pattern where Kizaru quite literally has not "tried" to fight Luffy seriously outside of 1 kick from G4 and 1 laser shot in G5.

Its a complete and utter mishap argument from the side that hates Admiral, fueled by Oda's own failure to make Kizaru actually competent and trying to fight Luffy, but instead mindlessly going after VP because he follows orders to a T.

All we have to go on is that he keeps recovering from minimal damage, so now we have to wait a AGAIN to see if Dawn Cymbals actually hurt him more signficantly or not, because the last two hits left him unscathed.
 
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