Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1109 Spoilers Discussion

[mly90]

If kiz doesn't show Awakening in egghead then I believe only akainu might get it... and BB as logia

Loda has to save something for Akainu making him first logia awakened ability user would be a good way to set him apart from others

 

[Hako Sama]

From a writing perspective, do you guys also find it weird that Kizaru was this unstoppable force (from the pov of the Strawhats) in Sabaody and now he is getting toyed with like he is nothing? I understand that luffy is stronger than him but I still think that there is something missing in the middle. The power difference and the portrayal from then to now is night and day.

That's nobody's fault but Oda's, Kizaru's slander is pretty accurate right now when you look at how pathetic he looks this arc, not only in power scaling but even as a character, with that pathetic "mentally nerfed" stuff that was debunked a few chapters ago.
Also, people are ignoring the most absurd point of this chapter, which is that an Admiral cannot land a SINGLE HIT on Luffy.

Not talking about you, but what is this drama all over Kizaru's trash ass portrayal? lmao
I didn't see the same drama when Oda fucked up Kaido with that ass backstory and that ridiculous portrayal against G5 and a lot of other minor characters, just accept it and move on.

 

[Definitivo]

The whole Kizaru thing is overshadowing the Gorosei's dead agenda.

 

[Ven437]

Loda has to save something for Akainu making him first logia awakened ability user would be a good way to set him apart from others

Kuzan didn’t even show Awakening against Garp while he was getting his ass beat it’s almost over for Awakening Agenda.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Imo it feels like Oda is stalling with Kizaru he doesn't want to have Luffy and Kizaru to have a serious fight. I don't know if it's because Oda want to save Kizaru for a later arc or give saturn some temporarily focus

I feel like it has to be the latter, because Kizaru honestly has been exposed too much as a character to not be addressed here now. Saturn on the other hand has zero named moves, zero explanation to his powers, and now has summoned the other Gorosei here which kind of just flat out takes the focus away from him lol

 

[SkySanji]

Read what I said please. He hasnt attacked him since 1093. White Star Gun happens in 1093 (or 1094 I forget).

Im not talking about this chapter, and it sounds like Kizaru doesnt get out of Luffy's hand before he is smashed so I doubt he's tried "every trick in the book" was actually used. The tiktok guy sensationalizes nonsense like calling Dragon a fraud so I doubt this means anything.

So you were wrong, it wasn't 1093

Alright bro, keep that same attitude when the raws drop, Luffy is far too fast for Kizaru and that's been shown repeatedly

 

[LadyVados]

Read what I said please. He hasnt attacked him since 1093. White Star Gun happens in 1093 (or 1094 I forget).

Im not talking about this chapter, and it sounds like Kizaru doesnt get out of Luffy's hand before he is smashed so I doubt he's tried "every trick in the book" was actually used. The tiktok guy sensationalizes nonsense like calling Dragon a fraud so I doubt this means anything.

But Dragon is a fraud?

 

[DarkWitch]

Not a Zoro fan here, but Zoro vs Nusjuro makes 100x more sense than Zoro vs Kizaru.
Who do you think is going to fight a top-tier swordsman? Another top-tier swordsman.

No duh, of course Zoro vs Nusjuro makes more sense, but at the same time it just shows you how easily some of these Zoro fans switch up.

Also we still don't know if Nusjuro is complete swordsman or not, King used a sword but he never considered himself a swordsman.

 

[LadyVados]

Loda has to save something for Akainu making him first logia awakened ability user would be a good way to set him apart from others

You mean Sabo during his fight with Akainu?

 

[zhenon]

Kuzan didn’t even show Awakening against Garp while he was getting his ass beat it’s almost over for Awakening Agenda.

Maybe logia can't awaken

aside from maybe BB cause he's special final villain

 

[Jailer]

From a writing perspective, do you guys also find it weird that Kizaru was this unstoppable force (from the pov of the Strawhats) in Sabaody and now he is getting toyed with like he is nothing? I understand that luffy is stronger than him but I still think that there is something missing in the middle. The power difference and the portrayal from then to now is night and day.

Perk of having Kaido as the big bad of last arc

 

[Unlimited Rulebook]

No there is no hypocrisy. Calling people for not getting stoned by Boa "gay" is different than calling someone "you are gay" to insult him and insisting on it, as if being gay is an insult. Also the same guy uses "autistic" as insult too in the same manner.

I disagree. Slurs are slurs. I concede that directing it is a higher level insult. It is hypocrisy (inconsistent values) to condemn only one condition and excuse the other. Again, I am a free speech advocate.

 

[Dragon777]

The whole Kizaru thing is overshadowing the Gorosei's dead agenda.

Honestly, this Is (possibly) the big deal.

 

[Albino 👑]

I can see momo being the one to beat nasjuro if not zoro or luffy…
Momo getting a fight would be dope

 

[zhenon]

gorosei are more important and plot relevant than admirals

 

[Brush D. Teeth]

Perk of having Kaido as the big bad of last arc

Yeah it's Wano's fault. Oda gave Luffy emission, internal destruction, ACoC and awakening in a handful of chapters.

 

[LadyVados]

Based on their respective performances against a Yonko, Yamato and Zoro > small queer family-owned business borsalino

 

[Dragon777]

Maybe logia can't awaken

aside from maybe BB cause he's special final villain

Would be an incredible let down.

Logia being special was highlighted even in this arc by Vegapunk.

 

[DarkWitch]

I can see momo being the one to beat nasjuro if not zoro or luffy…
Momo getting a fight would be dope

 

[Dragon777]

But Dragon is a fraud?

Dragon is a chair(man).