Controversial General Political Discussion

[Monkey D Theories]

You literally typed it out. It is very different to invade the "nazis" than to counter attack them.

It’s only a counter attack if you pretend like history began on October 7th

There were months of instigation on Israel’s part that led to October 7th. Specifically regarding Israel’s treatment of Palestinians in the West Bank.

 

[Roo]

It’s only a counter attack if you pretend like history began on October 7th

There were months of instigation on Israel’s part that led to October 7th. Specifically regarding Israel’s treatment of Palestinians in the West Bank.

and there's also months of palestinian instigating israel as well, let's not act like hamas doesn't send rockets daily lol

the more we type the more different it gets you know. It's a pretty easy rationalization to make

 

[Logiko]

and there's also months of palestinian instigating israel as well, let's not act like hamas doesn't send rockets daily lol

the more we type the more different it gets you know. It's a pretty easy rationalization to make

Or what about talking about the F. colonization that has been happening for decade or the DAILY oppression of Palestinians ?

What about searching for the real reason behind this conflict ? hm ?

 

[Roo]

Or what about talking about the F. colonization that has been happening for decade or the DAILY oppression of Palestinians ?

What about searching for the real reason behind this conflict ? hm ?

Nobody cares what you say, stop virtue signaling and speak like a human being and not an activist

 

[Logiko]

Nobody cares what you say, stop virtue signaling and speak like a human being and not an activist

Reminding you an historical fact that you are ignoring is not virtue signaling Einstein. And you seems to care enough to reply.

But it seems like you are taking your side.. and look at that ! A problem with militantism ? How peculiar...

 

[Roo]

Reminding you an historical fact that you are ignoring is not virtue signaling Einstein. And you seems to care enough to reply.

But it seems like you are taking your side.. and look at that ! A problem with militantism ? How peculiar...

yes using "F." and capitalizing "daily" is performative af aka virtue signaling

nowhere in my post do I even hint at taking a side. We're only speaking about the false equivalency of ukraine and palestine. It's like comparing the Holodomor and holocaust, just because I can distinguish the difference between the two doesn't mean I condone one over the other. Use your brain for more than virtue signaling

 

[Monkey D Theories]

and there's also months of palestinian instigating israel as well, let's not act like hamas doesn't send rockets daily lol

the more we type the more different it gets you know. It's a pretty easy rationalization to make

Israel is completely blockading Gaza

The people of Gaza used to live throughout the land of Palestine. But the israel independence war pushed them into Gaza.

They’ve been under occupation ever since the 6 day war.

 

[Roo]

Israel is completely blockading Gaza

yeah because Gaza is sending rockets to them daily lol.

The people of Gaza used to live throughout the land of Palestine. But the israel independence war pushed them into Gaza.

They’ve been under occupation ever since the 6 day war.

You do realize this still makes it way different than Ukraine tho right? and they were also under occupation since before then. Jordan and Egypt were the rulers of the west bank and gaza

 

[Logiko]

yes using "F." and capitalizing "daily" is performative af aka virtue signaling

Hmm.. no. Just an emphazis. To remind people about the gravity of the fact.

nowhere in my post do I even hint at taking a side.

and there's also months of palestinian instigating israel as well, let's not act like hamas doesn't send rockets daily lol

This is the rethoric of the propaganda of Israel and its supporters. This type of assertion - when delivered in response to the oppression of Israel - is made to completely invisibilize the colonization of Palestine and the oppression of Palestinian by Israel.
So yes, you do are taking a side.

 

[Roo]

This is the rethoric of the propaganda of Israel and its supporters. This type of assertion - when delivered in response to the oppression of Israel - is made to completely invisibilize the colonization of Palestine and the oppression of Palestinian by Israel.
So yes, you do are taking a side.

"Nazis say water is wet, therefore you're a nazi if you say water is wet"

 

[Logiko]

Jordan and Egypt were the rulers of the west bank and gaza

And this is again, Israelian propaganda. As if people there were not evicted from there house.

Palestinian were a nation. They were colonized and oppressed, period.

Any excuses of that are :

- Colonization apologism
- War crime apologism

"Nazis say water is wet, therefore you're a nazi if you say water is wet"

Well.. it doesn't really good when you are repeating the propaganda of a far right and crypto fascist government...

 

[Roo]

And this is again, Israelian propaganda. As if people there were not evicted from there house.

Palestinian were a nation. They were colonized and oppressed, period.

this is historically untrue tho

- Colonization apologism
- War crime apologism



Well.. it doesn't really good when you are repeating the propaganda of a far right and crypto fascist government...

You're out here lying lol. I am just stating facts.

if anybody is spreading propaganda its you bro

 

[Logiko]

this is historically untrue tho

No. Those are the facts. But keep your justification of colonization and oppression if you want, this only confirms what I said.
You are taking a side. The side of the oppressor.

You're out here lying lol. I am just stating facts.

if anybody is spreading propaganda its you bro

Sure, keep the denial bro

 

[Roo]

No. Those are the facts. But keep your justification of colonization and oppression if you want, this only confirms what I said.
You are taking a side. The side of the oppressor.


Sure, keep the denial bro

so when was palestine a nation?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Or what about talking about the F. colonization that has been happening for decade or the DAILY oppression of Palestinians ?

What about searching for the real reason behind this conflict ? hm ?

yes using "F." and capitalizing "daily" is performative af aka virtue signaling

nowhere in my post do I even hint at taking a side. We're only speaking about the false equivalency of ukraine and palestine. It's like comparing the Holodomor and holocaust, just because I can distinguish the difference between the two doesn't mean I condone one over the other. Use your brain for more than virtue signaling

What does the F mean?

 

[Logiko]

so when was palestine a nation?

Since people lived there and called themself a people

What does the F mean?

I don't like to swear

 

[Roo]

Since people lived there and called themself a people

lol

• The Palestinian people do not exist. There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are part of one people, the Arab nation. Lo and behold, I have relatives with Palestinian, Lebanese, Jordanian and Syrian citizenship. We are one people. It is only for political reasons that we carefully endorse our Palestinian identity. Indeed, it is of national interest for the Arabs to encourage the existence of the Palestinians in the face of Zionism. Yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity is only for tactical reasons. The establishment of a Palestinian state is a new means to continue the struggle against Israel and for Arab unity.

 

[Logiko]

lol

You think that quoting me one dude that has his own definition of a nation, is supposed to prove that you are somehow right and go against the determination of the people ?

Dude is literally feeding me Israelian propaganda to justify colonization.

Are you even serious mate ?



You know.. You don't have to go search for obscure quotes to justify the actions of people acting like monsters, you can simply say "I don't think that there is a colonization and an oppression" it will have the same impact.

 

[Roo]

You think that quoting me one dude that has his own definition of a nation, is supposed to prove that you are somehow right and go against the determination of the people ?

Dude is literally feeding me Israelian propaganda to justify colonization.

Are you even serious mate ?



You know.. You don't have to go search for obscure quotes to justify the actions of people acting like monsters, you can simply say "I don't think that there is a colonization and an oppression" it will have the same impact.

"One dude" literally one of the leaders of the PLO. Probably somebody I'll listen to over you, specially when it comes to definitions.

Palestine ever being a nation is ahistorical, and a historical palestinian identity is actually something that is argued upon by historian, seeing how "palestine" was more of a semi state of the ottoman which included parts of syria and jordan

 

[Logiko]

"One dude" literally one of the leaders of the PLO. Probably somebody I'll listen to over you, specially when it comes to definitions.

Yup, "one" dude.

Palestine ever being a nation is ahistorical

No, it an historical fact and your propaganda will not change that mate, I'm sorry. Also be careful not to confuse the term nation with the term state. Also, the existence of a nation doesn't necessaraly mean that said Nation was self ruling.

But EVEN if it wasn't the case, which is not, that wouldn't even justify colonization since people were still put out of their homes, killed and systematically oppressed.

The origin of the problem is therefore the British, the UN AND Israel who followed up on the colonization, not Palestinian who fought against the oppression.