Speculations Does Oda consider Murakumogiri (WB’s weapon) to be a sword?

#44
Honestly I don't know why Oda hasn't given Kaido a Meito
That's what I am saying actually, surely there is a logic behind the fact law, ryuma and kaido don't have a stronger weapon but Oda don't want to dive into that stuff
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Imo the weapon grow in strength with the user so only someone as strong or stronger kaido could use his club, that's why zoro was struggling with enma for example
 
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#45
That’s just a list of named swords and weapons not graded swords like people typically refer to when they say “Meito.”
"Meito" = named blades. They don't need to be graded to be a meito. Plus, if Road to Laugh Tale is in accordance to Oda, any melee weapon with a name can be considered a meito.

Edit: SBS Vol. 100 corroborates with this, as Oda mentions that Hassaikai is ungraded, so by deduction we can say that it may become graded someday.

Actually Oda said Kaido's Kanabo would be considered legendary if it ever fell out of his hands somehow
I wasn't aware of that, thanks. If anyone is curious, this info is on SBS Vol. 100.
 
#47
According to Road to Laugh Tale (Vol. 2), meitos can actually be polearms, claws, axes or even blunt weapons, like Kaido's club or Kanjuro's brush (yeah, they're meitos, but have no grade). Katakuri's Mogura ("Mole" in the page below), for example, is a ranked meito, but with a still unknown grade. Killer's Punishers are there too.


Considering that, I don't think that Whitebeard can be regarded as a swordsman. If you do consider him a swordsman because he had a meito, then you should consider Kaido and Katakuri swordsmen too.
Law's blade ungraded while being a Cursed Sword. :steef: Its power is so fearsome and unknown that it can't be contained by mere grade rankings. :shocked:
 
#50
official has meitos as weapons so
It makes sense they there
No it doesn't cause it called the 12/21/50 "blades" in the kanji which also based on blades historical grade system
Where is the blade on a kanebo?
:kobeha:
Oda just wanted to made cool weapons there is no rhyme or deep thought of it
 
#55
Yea that's ungraded.
Not among 12/21/50 graded weapons.
So far only "blades" are confirmed among them.
That doesn't change the fact that Meito in itself means LITERALLY blade, like I said that's the system 12/21/50wazemono is based upon

So a ungraded meito is still a blade, and a kanebo, or A BRUSH, cause kanjuros weapon is also classified as a meito has obviously none

I don't know why people even arguing this this is far not the first thing oda phoned in :kobeha:
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Im not arguing this @Kung-Fu Dugong already explained this perfectly better than I could. Its not that hard to understand:
"Meito" = named blades. They don't need to be graded to be a meito. Plus, if Road to Laugh Tale is in accordance to Oda, any melee weapon with a name can be considered a meito.

Edit: SBS Vol. 100 corroborates with this, as Oda mentions that Hassaikai is ungraded, so by deduction we can say that it may become graded someday.



I wasn't aware of that, thanks. If anyone is curious, this info is on SBS Vol. 100.
 
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That doesn't change the fact that Meito in itself means LITERALLY blade, like I said that's the system 12/21/50wazemono is based upon

So a ungraded meito is still a blade, and a kanebo, or A BRUSH, cause kanjuros weapon is also classified as a meito has obviously none

I don't know why people even arguing this this is far not the first thing oda phoned in :kobeha:
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Im not arguing this @Kung-Fu Dugong already explained this perfectly better than I could. Its not that hard to understand:
I'm not gonna argue this either...
Kaidou weapon simply up there. Because first , It's named. Named weapon doesn't mean they are meito. It's ungraded?
Give me just one example of a weapon which is not a blade and counted among 12/21/50.

It's simply assumption upon assumptions and playing with words.

12/21/50 is adopted from a real life hierarchy of grade of "Blades"...
Neither the real life or One piece world ever held any weapon which isn't a sword.


This is the statement Oda gave in volume 100 SBS.
Kita. Good question! Let's see~. What goes first? Oh, kanabo is called “Hassaikai” (A reference to the Eight Commanders of Buddhism). It unranked, but if Kaido dropped her, she'd would be considered a legend. Well, let's go with anthropomorphism!! I think Kaido is much scarier...!!

It's ranked , but if kaidou were to drop it , it would be considered legend.... it has no buisness being graded in the first place , Oda simply called that weapon a legend , Maybe some weapon crafter made this , but it still won't be counted among 12/21/50 swords.
 
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