Controversial General Political Discussion

[Herrera95]

You mean the ICC prosecutor asking for an arrest warrant for the two major Israeli leaders and Hamas War crim perpetuator for crimes such as forced starvation, rape, murder, war crimes or crime against humanity ?

This is not "fake news" mate. This is real. You might wanna check the news lol

Distorting my words. That fake news.

We already have the proof mate. They are gonna be arrested. Their choice is to run or give themself up now.

You lack justice knowledge to be calling it prove. What you have is said evidence that you presente to the judge in a trial. If the judge agree with that evidence and sentenced the prosecuted then you have a prove. Until then you only have an evidence.

Damn.. the colonizer mindset is strong with this one.

Israel is not colonizing anyone. That's why they FORCED jews to get out of Gaza while seeking for peace in 2005. Like I always said you have to study more before coming with fake news here.

 

[Zenos7]

Yes it does, sorry bro. The variability in moral views in different cultures actually does not negate my point. (or you will need to actually prove what you are saying)

Moral views that are mutually exclusive, some of which you would not consider just, obviously negates your point, especially the one about social species lol.

 

[Logiko]

Distorting my words. That fake news.

I don't need to distord your word mate. You make the work for me.

You lack justice knowledge to be calling it prove. What you have is said evidence that you presente to the judge in a trial. If the judge agree with that evidence and sentenced the prosecuted then you have a prove. Until then you only have an evidence.

I'm not talking about legal evidences but factual ones. Those that we can see by ourself. The judge will be the one to search for the real evidences.

Again, you are mistaking something. We are not the court. We don't need to wait for the trial to give a judgement. Those evidences are legit, they just need to be prosecuted. And the job will be done surely, don't worry about that

Israel is not colonizing anyone.

Yes they are. Quite literally in fact.

That's why they FORCED jews to get out of Gaza while seeking for peace in 2005.

By creating an open air prison. And colonizing east Jerusalem that is literally considered an occupied territory. Sure :)

Like I always said you have to study more before coming with fake news here.

U funny. Try to come up with actual facts next. Right now you are justifying genocide and colonization. And looking at today's news....

It doesn't look good for you.

Moral views that are mutually exclusive, some of which you would not consider just, obviously negates your point, especially the one about social species lol.

What you don't understand is that I'm talking about social behavior, not moral views.

 

[Herrera95]

I don't need to distord your word mate. You make the work for me.

I distort my own words before I even type here. Ok...

I'm not talking about legal evidences but factual ones. Those that we can see by ourself. The judge will be the one to search for the real evidences.

Again, you are mistaking something. We are not the court. We don't need to wait for the trial to give a judgement. Those evidences are legit, they just need to be prosecuted. And the job will be done surely, don't worry about that

My bad I forgot you are a dictator and don't need a legal system to judge and sentence someone or something.

By creating an open air prison. And colonizing east Jerusalem that is literally considered an occupied territory. Sure :)

Open air prison based on what? They are free to come and go anywhere they want. And everyone in the world is free to do the same. They work in Israel just fine. There is no such thing as open air prison there.

U funny. Try to come up with actual facts next. Right now you are justifying genocide and colonization. And looking at today's news....

It doesn't look good for you.

Where are your facts? I brought the fact that Israel give up their territory and removed the Jews from Gaza in order to have peace which Palestinians doesn't want. You are the one that has no fact at all and only spits your narrative here.

 

[Logiko]

I distort my own words before I even type here. Ok...

No, you distord reality. Which distords the reality of your words.

My bad I forgot you are a dictator and don't need a legal system to judge and sentence someone or something.

Well, let me ask you something:

You have 3 friends: Two woman and a man.

One day, one of your woman friends comes to you crying, the face bruised. She tells you that you man friend just beated her and raped her. She ask you to bring her to the police office to file a complain. The next day, your other woman friend who was made aware of the situation tells you that your man friend also raped her in the past.

Tell me, will you wait for the result of the trial to get your man friend the F. out of your friend circle and call him a rapist ?

Open air prison based on what?

Are you for F. real ?

Based on international laws you F. ignorant.

They are free to come and go anywhere they want.

No they are not.

And everyone in the world is free to do the same.

Nop

They work in Israel just fine.

Again, nop, not "fine"

Can you stop pooping the Israeli propaganda ?

There is no such thing as open air prison there.

Damn, you are ignorant.

Where are your facts?

NGO, UNO reports, international laws, specialists, testimonies, Israeli themself, pictures, videos, documentaries etc.

I brought the fact that Israel give up their territory and removed the Jews from Gaza in order to have peace which Palestinians doesn't want. You are the one that has no fact at all and only spits your narrative here.

You brought nothing mate. You are denying a genocide and defending people who are commiting war crimes and crimme against humanity.

I will not say that you are a monster because I do not believe that human should be essentialized, but - right now - you are definitely not the pride of the human specie.

Take a GOOD LOOK at the people you are trying to defend.

 

[Herrera95]

No, you distord reality. Which distords the reality of your words.

Now I'm God. Ok.

You have 2 friend: Two woman and a man.

That makes 3 but I'm the science denier.

One day, your woman friend comes to you crying, the face bruised. She tells you that you man friend just beated her and raped her. She ask you to bring her to the police office to file a complain. The next day, your other woman friend who was made aware of the situation tells you that you man friend also raped her in the past.

Tell me, will you wait for the result of the trial to get you man friend the F. out of your friend circle and call him a rapist ?

To be honest I don't know. Depends a lot of my connection with all those people how much I know them. All those things related to human connection that you are clearless about it. I don't know with my female friends have the habit of lie or if my male friend have the habit of being aggressive towards woman. We recently saw how judging goes wrong with Johnny Deep and Amber Head trial. Woman are not above to the law or incapable of lying.

Based on international laws you F. ignorant.

What international laws claims an open air prison and what court condemned Israel for doing that?

No they are not.

Yes they are. That's why a lot of Palestinians used to work at Israel. And why UN could stabilish there to help Hamas committing genocide.

Again, nop, not "fine"

Can you stop pooping the Israeli propaganda ?

Sorry. Better than fine. Probably better than the best job they could get inside Gaza if not the ones funded by UN to commit genocide against jews.

NGO, UNO reports, international laws, specialists, testimonies, Israeli themself, pictures, videos, documentaries etc.

And not a single condemn at trial? Geez...

You brought nothing mate. You are denying a genocide and defending people who are commiting war crimes and crimme against humanity.

I will not say that you are a monster because I do not believe that human should be essentialized, but - right now - you are definitely not the pride of the human specie.

Take a GOOD LOOK at the people you are trying to defend.

I don't deny genocide. There is one. By the part of Hamas (and to an extend Palestinians too). Israel is fighting for their survival. They seek peace. And I presented all facts about that. Which you ignored or denied because you work with narratives not with the true.

 

[Logiko]

Now I'm God. Ok.

No, just a far rightist, you guys tend to distord reality in you minds in order to fit it with your biased point of view.

That makes 3 but I'm the science denier.

I adapted the scenario mid paragraph in order to make you understand better, because I know that far rightist like you will tend to believe more the words of a man rather than a woman. So I added a woman... but look at that...

I don't know with my female friends have the habit of lie or if my male friend have the habit of being aggressive towards woman. We recently saw how judging goes wrong with Johnny Deep and Amber Head trial. Woman are not above to the law or incapable of lying.

EVEN in the case where TWO women FRIENDS tells you that they have been raped with clear evidences of violence, you would STILL putting their testimony into question.. That's say just how low people like you can fall.

You guys are walking red flags.

Oh and by the way:

WHY WE NEED TO BELIEVE ALL VICTIMS :

- [ARTICLE] - Why its VITAL to believe ALL victims - IMPORTANT
- [WIKIPEDIA] - An overview of false accusations of rape
- [STUDY] - False accusation of rape are between 4 to 9 %
- [VIDEO] - The big problem of the blaming of victims of rape in India (you can extend the problem to the entire world)
- [VIDEO] - We need to believe victims !
- [ARTICLE] - Believing Survivors Of Sexual Assault Does Not Equal A "Guilty" Verdict

What international laws claims an open air prison and what court condemned Israel for doing that?

https://www.ohchr.org/en/news/2023/...awful-carceral-practices-occupied-palestinian

Sorry. Better than fine. Probably better than the best job they could get inside Gaza if not the ones funded by UN to commit genocide against jews.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1732056400673575399

And not a single condemn at trial? Geez...

Don't worry, its coming mate



But again. Only a big red flag (to avoid saying anything worse) stands in front of oppression and wait for the result of a trial to access the severity of the situation. You are complicit like anyone who tries to deny those atrocities.

I don't deny genocide. There is one. By the part of Hamas (and to an extend Palestinians too).

Hm nop. There was a war crime made by Hamas but there is indeed a genocide created by Israelians. In fact there are technically multiple genocide done by them.

Israel is fighting for their survival

Israel propaganda. You are defending the propaganda of a fascist state. Shame on you.

They seek peace.

They are literally doing and saying the opposite ignorant.

And I presented all facts about that

You presented nothing but a distorded vision of reality in complete opposition to what most specialist NGO and testimonies are saying on the field.

 

[Uncle Van]

Keep grasping at that moral high ground. People should start worshipping your moral superiority any time now 🌚

 

[Logiko]

Keep grasping at that moral high ground. People should start worshipping your moral superiority any time now 🌚

You can quote me mate. Looking at the historic, I know who you are talking about here and you know full well that I read all the replies.

But yeah. I will keep the moral high ground here. At least as long as I'm not defending genocide, expressing sexist point of view, enabling ableism or transphobia, defending meritocracy or worshipping capitalism.

You guys learned relativism in order to be edgy, its now time for you to understand that sometimes, the search for nuance and a grey zone is the bad choice.

I'm not a good person, in a sence I'm even part of the problem in pretty much every subjects, I'm not a feminist and I'm not culturally versed in all domains. But I know that as long as I or other leftist will stand against oppression, no matter how many time you will try to delegitimize the leftists fights, you guys won't have the last word.

And that feeling is appeasing....

 

[Z-Saber]

enabling ableism or transphobia

Lol

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

This thread is so immature

 

[Herrera95]

EVEN in the case where TWO women FRIENDS tells you that they have been raped with clear evidences of violence, you would STILL putting their testimony into question.. That's say just how low people like you can fall.

You guys are walking red flags.

You surely are one. You don't have the least clue of what is an evidence of violence (rape is this case) and how one can easily self hurt to make naive like you to belive in them.

WHY WE NEED TO BELIEVE ALL VICTIMS :

- [ARTICLE] - Why its VITAL to believe ALL victims - IMPORTANT
- [WIKIPEDIA] - An overview of false accusations of rape
- [STUDY] - False accusation of rape are between 4 to 9 %
- [VIDEO] - The big problem of the blaming of victims of rape in India (you can extend the problem to the entire world)
- [VIDEO] - We need to believe victims !
- [ARTICLE] - Believing Survivors Of Sexual Assault Does Not Equal A "Guilty" Verdict

Again more articles and words in a paper. At least one study there. So there is false accusation huh? Is the minority of the accusations but still pretty high to me and enough to not blindly believe in anyone who claims to be a victim unless you wanna sacrifice some few innocent people in order to have 100% certain all criminals that were accused will punished (which would cause to more false accusations to happen but you give 0 fucks about that until it happens to you).

Don't worry, its coming mate



But again. Only a big red flag (to avoid saying anything worse) stands in front of oppression and wait for the result of a trial to access the severity of the situation. You are complicit like anyone who tries to deny those atrocities.

Once again you showed an article, even if at UN page still just an article and nothing related to a law or anything declaring what is a open air prisoner. It was a term invented by that reporter. You really should study the basics of law and justice.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

You surely are one. You don't have the least clue of what is an evidence of violence (rape is this case) and how one can easily self hurt to make naive like you to belive in them.


Again more articles and words in a paper. At least one study there. So there is false accusation huh? Is the minority of the accusations but still pretty high to me and enough to not blindly believe in anyone who claims to be a victim unless you wanna sacrifice some few innocent people in order to have 100% certain all criminals that were accused will punished (which would cause to more false accusations to happen but you give 0 fucks about that until it happens to you).


Once again you showed an article, even if at UN page still just an article and nothing related to a law or anything declaring what is a open air prisoner. It was a term invented by that reporter. You really should study the basics of law and justice.

The dumbest user right after Lameless and Lejas

 

[Herrera95]

The dumbest user right after Lameless and Lejas

Coming from you it is actually a compliment. You have the most irrelevant comments here. Looks like a crying baby seeking for attention and not being delivered.

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Not sure if I'm listening right (my english listening is not the best) but I guess he says he made a MAXIMUM of 15 dollars a day in Gaza while in Israel he could make a MINIMUM of 150 dollars. Is that right?

 

[Z-Saber]

This thread is so immature

You can quote me directly if you wish to insult me. Forgive me for not entertaining a guy accusing me of ableism and transphobia.

The dumbest user right after Lameless and Lejas

You not seeing the irony in calling people immature while throwing around 5th grade level insults is hilarious.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

You can quote me directly if you wish to insult me. Forgive me for not entertaining a guy accusing me of ableism and transphobia.

You not seeing the irony in calling people immature while throwing around 5th grade level insults is hilarious.

The statement was directed at everyone but the fact you think I was referring to you specifically speaks volumes.

In other news, @Toby D. Dog is @Monkey D Theories alt

 

[Z-Saber]

The statement was directed at everyone but the fact you think I was referring to you specifically speaks volumes.

In other news, @Toby D. Dog is @Monkey D Theories alt

Go figure that a passive aggressive post was taken as a slight.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Go figure that a passive aggressive post was taken as a slight.

Go away

 

[Z-Saber]

Go away

Nah but you have access to an ignore button so use it if it means that much to you

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Nah but you have access to an ignore button so use it if it means that much to you

It doesn't. I barely know your stance on things