Controversial General Political Discussion
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Yeah numerous times he said I'm lying only to say that say he doesn't remember whenever I prove it. Hypocrisy is inconsistent and contradictory behavior and actions. He switches back n 'forth from justifying said actions or flat out denying them. When I started to peep that, I repeating the same thing and got different responses. Like with him complaining about being censored yet happily tries to censor others. One time he justified it, the another time he called it a flat out lie.
And since I'm talking about the moderation. The moderation refused me to create a thread to share this, so I'm putting it here:
"Conversion Practices are interventions aimed at changing, repressing or suppressing the sexual orientation, gender identity and/or gender expression of LGBTQ+ persons.
Such practices, due to their discriminatory, degrading, harmful and fraudulent nature have been qualified as torture by the United Nations, and are currently being banned in a growing number of States."
Please, if you are in the E.U sign and share this petition to BAN those practices in the union.
>>> https://eci.ec.europa.eu/043/public/#/screen/home <<<
Remind me of something : In your perfect system, are workers owning their means of production, meaning that they decide how they can and when they can work or do their working conditions are decided by someone else ?
You proved nothing mate. Each time I had to actually debunk each one of your lies with the actual quotes and context behind them.
When I say "white" you say "he said that he didn't like colors". And I have to actually search for the actual quote to debunk you lie that will most likely stay invisible.
That's the kind of BS I have been dealing with you and a few other posters here since the very start.
Again, no
Oh look at that...
Did I ever said that "I want to censor others" or that "I'm being censored" ?
In fact...
*drum rolls...*
Here is the very post where I CLEARLY MENTION THE FACT that me being threadbanned by moderators in the Nakama thread is...
>>>>>
.. NOT CENSORSHIP !
So...
To the question: Did I say that I'm being censored ? NEVER. First lie.
Now, Van is saying that I'm trying "to censor others" :
So for that, I would need to actually have the power to censor and then try to use this power to actually censor people.... Right ?
But.. I don't have this power.. right ?
So.. how I can I try to censor others without having the power to actually do so ? It should be impossible, right ?
UNLESS, Van is trying to say here that, through reports, I'm actually trying to stop people from having an opinion ? Would that be logical ?
So lets look at the things I'm actually reporting :
- Transphobia
- Insults
- Apology of genocide
- Genocide denial
- Racism
- Fascism
- Harrasment
- Dehumanization
But wait a minute.. do you guys see ANYTHING here that should be allowed to remain on this server ?
Me neither
So what is Van mentionning as me "trying to censor people" ? Seems weird right ? ... well its because it is..
That's another lie.
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So here you have your example. Double in fact. Two lies in one stone. For him, its easy, he just has to lie and he know that I won't let that pass so he keeps doing it to deligitimize my fight, but for me, the brandolini law applies and I have to row and dig to actually debunk his BS each time.
Am I surprised that someone with power uses this type of tactics to deligitimize someone that is questionning their legitimacy and politics ? No.
That's why I keep saying that this little forum is a mini representation of domination structure in society and people like Van are not special, they are not targetting me because I'm special either or because they have a vendetta. They are simply following a pattern of domination that has been existing for multiple millenia. Its a simple representation and example of a face of power asserting its domination through unethical behavior. You will find that type of delegitimization anywhere and that also why its very interesting to analyse this type of interaction politically.
We might be on a simple forum about One Piece, but the political is very real:
- There is a structure of power that is following a liberalistic and apolitical set of laws
- Said set of laws allows people to be toxic and share harmfull opinions
- People are questionning the policies of the structure that allow said behaviors
- The power sides with toxicity and targets those who are delegitimizing their politicies through unethical practices and toxic behaviors
You could see that through ableism this week, and you can see that through the lies here.
This interaction is amazingly interesting.
So, keep it going mate
"Conversion Practices are interventions aimed at changing, repressing or suppressing the sexual orientation, gender identity and/or gender expression of LGBTQ+ persons.
Such practices, due to their discriminatory, degrading, harmful and fraudulent nature have been qualified as torture by the United Nations, and are currently being banned in a growing number of States."
Please, if you are in the E.U sign and share this petition to BAN those practices in the union.
>>> https://eci.ec.europa.eu/043/public/#/screen/home <<<
Remind me of something : In your perfect system, are workers owning their means of production, meaning that they decide how they can and when they can work or do their working conditions are decided by someone else ?
You proved nothing mate. Each time I had to actually debunk each one of your lies with the actual quotes and context behind them.
When I say "white" you say "he said that he didn't like colors". And I have to actually search for the actual quote to debunk you lie that will most likely stay invisible.
That's the kind of BS I have been dealing with you and a few other posters here since the very start.
Again, no
Oh look at that...
Did I ever said that "I want to censor others" or that "I'm being censored" ?
In fact...
*drum rolls...*
Here is the very post where I CLEARLY MENTION THE FACT that me being threadbanned by moderators in the Nakama thread is...
>>>>>
OH ? Do you felt like I feel censored ? Did I ever said that I felt censored ? Dude... You are really underestimating me right now...
Until now, I've been able to say exactly what I wanted to say on this forum, no matter how many ban I faced
I understand perfectly the rules of this forum and I understand exactly why I'm banned when its happens, even if I consider those ban unjust on an ethical plan. I sometimes disagree with the sanctions, I can find the rules unjust, in fact I fight those sanction on an ethical plan (by trying to make mods understand why they are noethical), I can ask for a clarification on the sanction, but I take responsibility when they are applied mate, I don't cry because I'm being rejected from a space.
When I break a rule, I don't expect mods not to follow them since we discuss under a power that doesn't question its own rules. This is the difference between me and you. I don't feel censored at all
Until now, I've been able to say exactly what I wanted to say on this forum, no matter how many ban I faced
I understand perfectly the rules of this forum and I understand exactly why I'm banned when its happens, even if I consider those ban unjust on an ethical plan. I sometimes disagree with the sanctions, I can find the rules unjust, in fact I fight those sanction on an ethical plan (by trying to make mods understand why they are noethical), I can ask for a clarification on the sanction, but I take responsibility when they are applied mate, I don't cry because I'm being rejected from a space.
When I break a rule, I don't expect mods not to follow them since we discuss under a power that doesn't question its own rules. This is the difference between me and you. I don't feel censored at all
So...
To the question: Did I say that I'm being censored ? NEVER. First lie.
Now, Van is saying that I'm trying "to censor others" :
So for that, I would need to actually have the power to censor and then try to use this power to actually censor people.... Right ?
But.. I don't have this power.. right ?
So.. how I can I try to censor others without having the power to actually do so ? It should be impossible, right ?
UNLESS, Van is trying to say here that, through reports, I'm actually trying to stop people from having an opinion ? Would that be logical ?
So lets look at the things I'm actually reporting :
- Transphobia
- Insults
- Apology of genocide
- Genocide denial
- Racism
- Fascism
- Harrasment
- Dehumanization
But wait a minute.. do you guys see ANYTHING here that should be allowed to remain on this server ?
Me neither
So what is Van mentionning as me "trying to censor people" ? Seems weird right ? ... well its because it is..
That's another lie.
----------
So here you have your example. Double in fact. Two lies in one stone. For him, its easy, he just has to lie and he know that I won't let that pass so he keeps doing it to deligitimize my fight, but for me, the brandolini law applies and I have to row and dig to actually debunk his BS each time.
Am I surprised that someone with power uses this type of tactics to deligitimize someone that is questionning their legitimacy and politics ? No.
That's why I keep saying that this little forum is a mini representation of domination structure in society and people like Van are not special, they are not targetting me because I'm special either or because they have a vendetta. They are simply following a pattern of domination that has been existing for multiple millenia. Its a simple representation and example of a face of power asserting its domination through unethical behavior. You will find that type of delegitimization anywhere and that also why its very interesting to analyse this type of interaction politically.
We might be on a simple forum about One Piece, but the political is very real:
- There is a structure of power that is following a liberalistic and apolitical set of laws
- Said set of laws allows people to be toxic and share harmfull opinions
- People are questionning the policies of the structure that allow said behaviors
- The power sides with toxicity and targets those who are delegitimizing their politicies through unethical practices and toxic behaviors
You could see that through ableism this week, and you can see that through the lies here.
This interaction is amazingly interesting.
So, keep it going mate
I agree. I don't think Logiko understands that I'm always giving him the benefit of the doubt and I hold him to a higher standard than hateful users like Lerrera or Lavager. I just think that this place does no favors to someone like him who's going through it. Writing multiple essays and having a back and forth with weirdos like Lerrera can't be good for his mental health.
I understand that you - in your own way - do care about the fact that I'm actually giving my all against those guys.
But if I have a favor to ask you from a leftist to another : Trust me, all is fine.
I would not do this if it was actually hurtfull to me. Being present, writing long messages, answering to BS, be it here or anywhere else on Internet, is not something that hurts me. Its frustrating at times, granted, its even completely tiring and exhausting, but this conflict of value that I call politics is one of my purpose in life.
I find this conflict amazingly interesting. Some things are revolting of course, but incredibly fascinating. The gap that separate different and opposite values is like an universal mystery to me. So when I battle my way through this thread or another, I'm touching with the tip of my fingers this strange mystery and I'm fighting it head on and it's exhilarating. The more the person fight back the better the sensation and the more the people, the more fun I have.
People thought for a time that I was being destroyed in the Nakama thread for years..
Its was the opposite. I've never had so much fun in a decade than battling for Carrot against 5, 10 sometimes 15 peoples at a time. I felt like that, but instead of having one ball, I had 15:
Debating is currently what is helping me maintain my purpose alive. Here or anywhere else.
But if I have a favor to ask you from a leftist to another : Trust me, all is fine.
I would not do this if it was actually hurtfull to me. Being present, writing long messages, answering to BS, be it here or anywhere else on Internet, is not something that hurts me. Its frustrating at times, granted, its even completely tiring and exhausting, but this conflict of value that I call politics is one of my purpose in life.
I find this conflict amazingly interesting. Some things are revolting of course, but incredibly fascinating. The gap that separate different and opposite values is like an universal mystery to me. So when I battle my way through this thread or another, I'm touching with the tip of my fingers this strange mystery and I'm fighting it head on and it's exhilarating. The more the person fight back the better the sensation and the more the people, the more fun I have.
People thought for a time that I was being destroyed in the Nakama thread for years..
Its was the opposite. I've never had so much fun in a decade than battling for Carrot against 5, 10 sometimes 15 peoples at a time. I felt like that, but instead of having one ball, I had 15:
Debating is currently what is helping me maintain my purpose alive. Here or anywhere else.
And here is another side of ableism. On top of the invisibilization of the illness, there is sometimes the case where said illness is validated but as a result, the words or legitimacy of the person questionned.
Any objective observer could see that - while I'm being sometimes over dramatic and over present here - I'm one of the most consistant, reality based, strong and logical person on theses political and narrative threads.
But now that I've shared my vulnerability, my legitimicy and my words are suddenly put into question by the person in position of power that has been lying consistantly and repeatitively about me from day one and who is failing to see that my illness has nothing to do with actual consistancy.
Am I surprised by this ? No. I expected this ableist behavior. That's why I need to step up my game. You guys might see a little bit more links toward political and scientific papers in the future.
Again:
Never use mental disorder in order to deligitimize a political viewpoint.
Yes. its the same video.
Thanks, I hope so too
Any objective observer could see that - while I'm being sometimes over dramatic and over present here - I'm one of the most consistant, reality based, strong and logical person on theses political and narrative threads.
But now that I've shared my vulnerability, my legitimicy and my words are suddenly put into question by the person in position of power that has been lying consistantly and repeatitively about me from day one and who is failing to see that my illness has nothing to do with actual consistancy.
Am I surprised by this ? No. I expected this ableist behavior. That's why I need to step up my game. You guys might see a little bit more links toward political and scientific papers in the future.
Again:
Never use mental disorder in order to deligitimize a political viewpoint.
Yes. its the same video.
Thanks, I hope so too
After the bowel thread I'm not sure anymore
shoutout to tejas
too bad our friend is not here to celebrate with us🤍
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If they have money for that. There is one guy called Renato Cariani here in Brazil that did just that. He is a fitness influencer and he was working as a chemical specialist in a factory that makes supplements and stuff relates to fitness industry. He started to earn so much money having the same car as his boss ir even better and one day he made an offer to his boss that he initially didn't believed one of his employees would have enough money to buy his factory. But then he had the money and so he did.
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He owns it. Wtf?
A toddler couldn't read my words like you but at least would understand that the enoloyee was able to buy the company from the boss. Of course he had other soucers of income I don't remember well what was. He was already a professional bodybuilder. Maybe some brand was paying him something for advertising idk.
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A toddler couldn't read my words like you but at least would understand that the enoloyee was able to buy the company from the boss. Of course he had other soucers of income I don't remember well what was. He was already a professional bodybuilder. Maybe some brand was paying him something for advertising idk.
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You don't understand what employee-owned business means
By the way what you mean is exactly what Milei did at Argentina with the state companies. Sold to the employees since they would be the best option to handle the company.