Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1116 Spoilers Discussion

[HA001]

Oda debunked your ass;

''Aoyama: That's a secret, haha. I might decide to redraw the finale in the future… Hahaha.
Oda: I've always pictured what the final chapter of ‘ONE PIECE’ would be like, though from time to time, the situation surrounding it changes. It will still be over whenever the One Piece is found in the series, haha. Anyway, this next arc is the final one.
Aoyama: Seriously? Is it really going to end?
Oda: Yup, to me this is really the final arc.''

You gonna keep crying just like you cried about ZKK, there is nothing you can do about Shiryu > Mihawk

Keep crying bug eyes

 

[Etzel Andergast]

he got banned again lol

 

[comrade]

Teach comes from a special lineage and is a D. He is obviously related to the ancient kingdom that Imu and the 19 other kings beat.

We know for a fact he won’t reach Laugh Tale and we know for a fact he won’t “shoulder the centuries of history” as Whitebeard pontificated.

I.E, he is not the man to take down the WG or Imu and he is not the man to be the pirate king (the one Roger is waiting for).

With the fact that Imu is the last surviving member of the alliance of 20 kings, we can quite literally say he is the one responsible for the world. He’s the one making the void century illegal, he’s the one who literally ruined the world and made it post apocalyptic, he’s the one who is the biggest threat to the world.

Blackbeard is quite literally small potatoes against Imu.

It's too predictable. Imu is just one of the twenty kings who received immortality surgery and now secretly sits atop of some aristocrats who established a World Government and capitalize on the fact that several holders of the Road Poneglyph are in a stalemate, prior to that being unable to stop Roger from reaching Laughtale.

Blackbeard as a character as of now has more enigma around him. Also someone from the D clan, who seemingly inherited Xebec's will and the only one known to be able to use multiple Devil Fruits even as per the Goroseis words, who attribute it to "special lineage". The BB pirates aim for the world, Oda won't have such a huge built up for Teach, with even the likes of Shanks warning everyone, even the Gorosei themselves, just for him to be wasted before the actual fight against the established WG.

 

[Definitivo]

And is an ant compared to the build up Imu has.

Blackbeard is the most special character in the series along with Luffy.
The only one capable of eating various fruits, special bloodline, fruit of darkness, etc...

By the time the parallel with Xebec was established it was already evident that the whole Imu thing was created so that Blackbeard would overthrow him and sit on the empty throne.

 

[Reborn]

Rayleigh said that Roger was proud to be called as Pirate King. Soooo it seems that he was proud to be a fraud. I'm sure he found One Piece, and this is you people trying to change plot in your own headcanon, just to not accept the realityabout Final Villain and etc.

People called him pirate king.

And, again, you have no evidence of Roger getting one piece.

It's possible he made that up to usher pirate era because that's what he wanted to do after he learnt true history.

Teach comes from a special lineage and is a D. He is obviously related to the ancient kingdom that Imu and the 19 other kings beat.

We know for a fact he won’t reach Laugh Tale and we know for a fact he won’t “shoulder the centuries of history” as Whitebeard pontificated.

I.E, he is not the man to take down the WG or Imu and he is not the man to be the pirate king (the one Roger is waiting for).

With the fact that Imu is the last surviving member of the alliance of 20 kings, we can quite literally say he is the one responsible for the world. He’s the one making the void century illegal, he’s the one who literally ruined the world and made it post apocalyptic, he’s the one who is the biggest threat to the world.

Blackbeard is quite literally small potatoes against Imu.

Here's the problem with whatever you said.

Your whole narrative is based on WB's words ignoring everything that happened after that.

It's obvious BB isn't the man world is waiting for - no one is saying he is. Nor BB himself wants to.

Also, WB words doesn't imply BB can't get to fulfill his dream. It's possible BB did achieve something but still lose to Luffy at the end and even in this scenario WB prophecy will stand correct.


However, there is no way BB is falling before we learn void century history.

And, BB will definitely play a role against IMU.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

It's too predictable. .

this isn’t an argument, it’s an opinion. Which is fine for you to have. But Oda is consistently building up the world government, specifically the Tenryuubito, as the problem. They hold a majority of the world in its grasp and are directly responsible for its woes.

Unless Oda wants to really lean into GoT writing and subvert the audience for the sake of it, I can’t see a world where Teach is FV. Which coincides perfectly with Whitebeard explicitly telling Teach he isn’t the one Roger is waiting for.

So it comes down to;

Was Roger waiting for someone to break the world government / reveal the past to the world

Or was Roger waiting for someone to beat up Whitebeard’s cabin boy lol

 

[Konstantis]

It's too predictable. Imu is just one of the twenty kings who received immortality surgery and now secretly sits atop of some aristocrats who established a World Government and capitalize on the fact that several holders of the Road Poneglyph are in a stalemate, prior to that being unable to stop Roger from reaching Laughtale.

Blackbeard as a character as of now has more enigma around him. Also someone from the D clan, who seemingly inherited Xebec's will and the only one known to be able to use multiple Devil Fruits even as per the Goroseis words, who attribute it to "special lineage". The BB pirates aim for the world, Oda won't have such a huge built up for Teach, with even the likes of Shanks warning everyone, even the Gorosei themselves, just for him to be wasted before the actual fight against the established WG.

Blackbeard is the most special character in the series along with Luffy.
The only one capable of eating various fruits, special bloodline, fruit of darkness, etc...

By the time the parallel with Xebec was established it was already evident that the whole Imu thing was created so that Blackbeard would overthrow him and sit on the empty throne.

Teach needs to be important to be called as Luffy's rival. Teach want's to became new Joy Boy, the Pirate King, and Luffy want's that. But Joy Boy was Imu's enemy. And it was Imu who created this world. He is enemy of freedom, not BB.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Bruh

You are being dumb now.

1)Lily is a D who was present at the time of Ancient kingdom and was involved in the war. Vivi inherited her will.

2) Ancient weapons were made by Ancient kingdoms so Poseidon and Fishmen has links with Ancient kingdom. Shirahoshi inherited Mermaid princess will.

3) Joyboy and Luffy is obvious

4) BB is a D as well and the fourth character marked by IMU.

So he inherited his ancestor will - ancestor who must be the part of Void century like in case of other 3.



I didn't say Ancient kingdom was evil. I said it's possible Ancient kingdom was under evil d rule and joyboy set sail as a pirate for freedom.

1. Being a D doesn’t mean being from the ancient kingdom. We know there are Ds who’s heritage are from those who aren’t like Saul’s ancestor and Lily who are from Elbaf and Alabasta.

2. Were told about Poseidon, that she was the mermaid princess from Fishman Island 800 years ago. Poseidon isn’t some piece of tech like Pluton and Uranus, she’s the queen of the Neptunians. She wasn’t made in the ancient kingdom.

3. I’m not saying Blackbeard doesn’t have a connection to someone from the void century? He’s a D so of course he does. But, he’s not necessarily from the ancient kingdom.

 

[Alarica]

People called him pirate king.

And, again, you have no evidence of Roger getting one piece.

It's possible he made that up to usher pirate era because that's what he wanted to do after he learnt true history.


Here's the problem with whatever you said.

Your whole narrative is based on WB's words ignoring everything that happened after that.

It's obvious BB isn't the man world is waiting for - no one is saying he is. Nor BB himself wants to.

Also, WB words doesn't imply BB can't get to fulfill his dream. It's possible BB did achieve something but still lose to Luffy at the end and even in this scenario WB prophecy will stand correct.


However, there is no way BB is falling before we learn void century history.

And, BB will definitely play a role against IMU.

Roger was Pirate King, stop this nonsence from your headcanon

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Blackbeard is the most special character in the series along with Luffy.
The only one capable of eating various fruits, special bloodline, fruit of darkness, etc...

By the time the parallel with Xebec was established it was already evident that the whole Imu thing was created so that Blackbeard would overthrow him and sit on the empty throne.

Nope!

Blackbear explicitly is not the man to shoulder centuries of history.

Teach will not invoke the war the world government fears.

He is not the man the WG fear.

he will not take over the WG because he neither represents the atrocities Imu perpetrated nor can he shoulder its centuries of history

 

[Reborn]

1. Being a D doesn’t mean being from the ancient kingdom. We know there are Ds who’s heritage are from those who aren’t like Saul’s ancestor and Lily who are from Elbaf and Alabasta.

2. Were told about Poseidon, that she was the mermaid princess from Fishman Island 800 years ago. Poseidon isn’t some piece of tech like Pluton and Uranus, she’s the queen of the Neptunians. She wasn’t made in the ancient kingdom.

3. I’m not saying Blackbeard doesn’t have a connection to someone from the void century? He’s a D so of course he does. But, he’s not necessarily from the ancient kingdom.

With ancient kingdom I mean someone who was involved in void century war

All 3 were so BB ancestor was as well

 

[HA001]

Yall honestly dumb as fuck

The whole point in this story is to overthrow an 800 year long reigning power

Not to beat a 40 year old fat blob


Pirate king is a fallacy it means nothing
Its a made up trope

By a guy who came to early to over throw said power

The rio ponyglyph ain't gonna tell Robin about black beard

 

[comrade]

But Oda is consistently building up the world government, specifically the Tenryuubito, as the problem.

They are the problem, yes, this is why Blackbeard is opposed to them as well and cooking his own plan. Blackbeard is basically the antithesis to Luffy/Nika, rather than freedom, seeking chaos and destruction. So Blackbeard may as well cause destruction to the WG itself. I don't see where else Blackbeard fits into the narrative. You think they just going to have a Davy Back fight on Laughtale, before the real war begins?

Whitebeard saying that Blackbeard is not the one Roger was waiting for doesn't mean he won't have his fair share in the events causing the downfall of the WG, it's just that Blackbeard's ideals and methods would not align with Roger's.

 

[Shiroyru]

Gorosei shouldn’t have to worry about the world hearing the end of the broadcast because everyone will be asleep by then

 

[Reborn]

Roger was Pirate King, stop this nonsence from your headcanon

Never denied Roger wasn't a pk lmao


Reread what I said


And, I am not a yonkous fan. Stop generalizing

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

People called him pirate king.

And, again, you have no evidence of Roger getting one piece.

It's possible he made that up to usher pirate era because that's what he wanted to do after he learnt true history.


Here's the problem with whatever you said.

Your whole narrative is based on WB's words ignoring everything that happened after that.

It's obvious BB isn't the man world is waiting for - no one is saying he is. Nor BB himself wants to.

Also, WB words doesn't imply BB can't get to fulfill his dream. It's possible BB did achieve something but still lose to Luffy at the end and even in this scenario WB prophecy will stand correct.


However, there is no way BB is falling before we learn void century history.

And, BB will definitely play a role against IMU.

Yes, because Whitebeard’s words are the death rattle that shakes the literal world. He is telling us the future there and intentionally ignoring the blatant foreshadowing and set up in his death speech is intentional blindness for fanboyism sake.

BB needs a three eye tribe to read / know about the ancient history. I think he’ll have greater insight, he won’t reveal it.

Nor can he overtake the WG because it’s explicitly said he cannot shoulder those centuries of history.

He cannot take over the world and replace Imu—that is set in stone.

The only slight hope for BB final villain fans is Imu is taken down first but…. Again, a 900 year old king who destroyed the world being replaced with just a Yonko doesn’t sound like an escalation but rather the opposite. And the fact that a war is supposed to happen post Laugh Tale and Teach, Shanks and Luffy are the only characters still in the race for laugh tale.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

With ancient kingdom I mean someone who was involved in void century war

All 3 were so BB ancestor was as well

Sorry I misunderstood your point then I thought you were saying they were all from the void century.

And the three prong war theory, same issue with it as I have since Shanks fans used it as a way of pushing him into a fight with Luffy. It’s that Oda doesn’t really write that way. The wars always end with Luffy vs the big bad and that needs to be Blackbeard or Imu while the other somehow gets defeated by the allies which doesn’t fit with either Blackbeard nor Imu.

 

[comrade]

Yall honestly dumb as fuck

The whole point in this story is to overthrow an 800 year long reigning power

Not to beat a 40 year old fat blob


Pirate king is a fallacy it means nothing
Its a made up trope

But that's the point. Blackbeard doesn't aim to be PK either, he aims for the world itself, like Xebec. He aims for the WG as well, just, contrary to Joyboy, not through methods of freedom/liberation but destruction and chaos.

 

[Reborn]

Yes, because Whitebeard’s words are the death rattle that shakes the literal world. He is telling us the future there and intentionally ignoring the blatant foreshadowing and set up in his death speech is intentional blindness for fanboyism sake.

BB needs a three eye tribe to read / know about the ancient history. I think he’ll have greater insight, he won’t reveal it.

Nor can he overtake the WG because it’s explicitly said he cannot shoulder those centuries of history.

He cannot take over the world and replace Imu—that is set in stone.

The only slight hope for BB final villain fans is Imu is taken down first but…. Again, a 900 year old king who destroyed the world being replaced with just a Yonko doesn’t sound like an escalation but rather the opposite. And the fact that a war is supposed to happen post Laugh Tale and Teach, Shanks and Luffy are the only characters still in the race for laugh tale.

Again, You are taking WB words to conclude BB has no role in the final war but that's not what he meant.

He said "BB isn't the man world is waiting for" which is true. It has to be Luffy.

However, it doesn't mean BB won't play his part against WG and Luffy



You people have no counter argument against why oda made imu marked bB along side 3 good characters if he intends to make BB lose before Raftel?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

They are the problem, yes, this is why Blackbeard is opposed to them as well and cooking his own plan. Blackbeard is basically the antithesis to Luffy/Nika, rather than freedom, seeking chaos and destruction. So Blackbeard may as well cause destruction to the WG itself. I don't see where else Blackbeard fits into the narrative. You think they just going to have a Davy Back fight on Laughtale, before the real war begins?

Whitebeard saying that Blackbeard is not the one Roger was waiting for doesn't mean he won't have his fair share in the events causing the downfall of the WG, it's just that Blackbeard's ideals and methods would not align with Roger's.

No he won’t. He won’t shoulder the centuries of history.

Blackbeard cannot take down the government because of that, unless you want to think he somehow masterminds it and takes over… but that’s peak fanfiction at this point.

What we know for certain is;

• Blackbeard booted Law from the contest to be pirate king and took his rubbings
• Blackbeard has a three eye tribe girl to translate said rubbings
• Blackbeard is actively searching for the burned scar man
• Shanks is up Teach’s ass and also kicked someone out of the PK race.

And from Whitebeards speech we know Teach is not the one Roger was waiting for, I.e. he is never going to be pirate king. But he’s in the race.

Everything Oda writes tells us Teach is neck deep in the pirate king race, the world gov fears a war after that race is over (I.e after one piece is found) so they cannot fall before that race ends.

Teach will not make it to the final war or be its final villain, as of now.