Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1116 Spoilers Discussion

[TheAncientCenturion]

Again, You are taking WB words to conclude BB has no role in the final war but that's not what he meant.

He said "BB isn't the man world is waiting for" which is true. It has to be Luffy.

However, it doesn't mean BB won't play his part against WG and Luffy



You people have no counter argument against why oda made imu marked bB along side 3 good characters if he intends to make BB lose before Raftel?

lol because it’s Teach being a tangible threat but it doesn’t mean he’s going to play a greater role. It’s so singling him out for the future.

Again, you can pretend Whitebeards death speech is not foreshadowing or Oda talking to the audience—good for you. I’m not illiterate so I won’t be doing that.

Teach is primed for the pirate king race right now.
The world government fears what happens after said race is concluded

Either teach doesn’t oppose Luffy, doesn’t directly fight the WG and tries too take over after Luffy beats Imu (which is a rather big waste of his character, to me.)

Or, Teach has grander ambitions but never reaches them and goes down in the race for the pirate king.

as far as I can see that’s the two roads most likely given Oda’s writing and one of them is more likely than the other

 

[Reborn]

Sorry I misunderstood your point then I thought you were saying they were all from the void century.

And the three prong war theory, same issue with it as I have since Shanks fans used it as a way of pushing him into a fight with Luffy. It’s that Oda doesn’t really write that way. The wars always end with Luffy vs the big bad and that needs to be Blackbeard or Imu while the other somehow gets defeated by the allies which doesn’t fit with either Blackbeard nor Imu.

It won't be a triple threat



But BB has role to play against WG and void history reveal and he won't fall before that


There has to be a reason why oda made IMU marked BB along side 3 good characters who inherited void century characters will.

There has to be a reason why BB dream is to become King of the world - IMUs throne.

All I am saying is BB won't fall before Raftel

 

[Alarica]

Never denied Roger wasn't a pk lmao


Reread what I said


And, I am not a yonkous fan. Stop generalizing

So Roger was Pirate King, but never found One Piece? I see this is new lvl

 

[Konstantis]

It won't be a triple threat



But BB has role to play against WG and void history reveal and he won't fall before that


There has to be a reason why oda made IMU marked BB along side 3 good characters who inherited void century characters will.

There has to be a reason why BB dream is to become King of the world - IMUs throne.

All I am saying is BB won't fall before Raftel

It won't be a triple threat



But BB has role to play against WG and void history reveal and he won't fall before that


There has to be a reason why oda made IMU marked BB along side 3 good characters who inherited void century characters will.

There has to be a reason why BB dream is to become King of the world - IMUs throne.

All I am saying is BB won't fall before Raftel

BB is the tool to gather all ancient weapons, except Uranus, just to be used by real Pirate King Luffy

 

[MarineHQ]

Elbaf = Norse mythology themed.

In Ragnarok, Surtur (a magma/fire man) appears after the fall of Balder (the god of light)

Surtur = Akainu, Balder = Kizaru - > Kizaru's fall in Egghead and separation of the navy from WG leads Akainu to head to Elbaf

Like the idea of Akainu falling next arc tbh. How and why would he come there though? How would the plot go ? @SakazOuki @Lee Ba Shou

 

[L57]

Imagine being told that the war from the Void Century is still on-going, the world is going to sink and believing Teach will somehow appear as the bigger threat.

Teach def has a bigger role if not he s just another kaido or meme

 

[Reborn]

lol because it’s Teach being a tangible threat but it doesn’t mean he’s going to play a greater role. It’s so singling him out for the future.

Again, you can pretend Whitebeards death speech is not foreshadowing or Oda talking to the audience—good for you. I’m not illiterate so I won’t be doing that.

Teach is primed for the pirate king race right now.
The world government fears what happens after said race is concluded

Either teach doesn’t oppose Luffy, doesn’t directly fight the WG and tries too take over after Luffy beats Imu (which is a rather big waste of his character, to me.)

Or, Teach has grander ambitions but never reaches them and goes down in the race for the pirate king.

as far as I can see that’s the two roads most likely given Oda’s writing and one of them is more likely than the other

If literacy to you means reading one point and then not connecting it with points revealed later then I am better off without it

Also, Teach goal is to become king of the world - the thorne IMu has.


He isn't just looking for being Pk.


And, for the third time, I am not overlooking WB speech. I do agree with him that BB isn't the man World is waiting for.


But what I am saying is this doesn't mean BB won't play his role against IMu and luffy.

As of now, you are literally denying that role by saying he will fall before raftel ignoring multiple plots regarding him

1) Xebec will

2) Dream to be king of the world

3)Marked by IMu

4) special lineage said by Saturn

5)polar opposite of luffy

6) Most importantly, has ties with void century and now has info on Ancient weapons


It's naive on your part to think this character will go down before Raftel

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

Good that TAC is rooting against Blackbeard lmao, this bodes well for the future "king of the world"

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Teach has def a bigger role if not he s just another kaido or meme

No, he’s the ultimate pirate rival. He will have a massive arc and get good focus, Oda is building the mystery around him.

But Oda already made it clear that Teach can’t topple the WG and has emphasized Teach’s current goal being to become PK.

I can fully believe Teach wants more and has plans for more but I can’t see anything in the manga to convince me he’ll get it. Just
Like how Kaido didn’t get his world of war, Doffy wasn’t immortal, etc.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

It won't be a triple threat



But BB has role to play against WG and void history reveal and he won't fall before that


There has to be a reason why oda made IMU marked BB along side 3 good characters who inherited void century characters will.

There has to be a reason why BB dream is to become King of the world - IMUs throne.

All I am saying is BB won't fall before Raftel

I feel like it’s just because Luffy and Blackbeard is a battle of destinies. Blackbeard and Augur regularly talk about fate and destiny. And Luffy vs Blackbeard will just be a fight to see which D destiny chooses to finish joyboys fight. It’s the same with how Rocks wanted all this to, and was a D, but he was destroyed before Roger found the One Piece himself.

Blackbeard ending up like Rox makes sense. Cause Imu cannot be defeated by anyone but Luffy.

 

[Hedfi]

Still no new spoilers :(

 

[L57]

No, he’s the ultimate pirate rival. He will have a massive arc and get good focus, Oda is building the mystery around him.

But Oda already made it clear that Teach can’t topple the WG and has emphasized Teach’s current goal being to become PK.

I can fully believe Teach wants more and has plans for more but I can’t see anything in the manga to convince me he’ll get it. Just
Like how Kaido didn’t get his world of war, Doffy wasn’t immortal, etc.

He has one of the most important fruits,his special ability to have 2 dfs not sleeping etc
I think he s gonna be bigger than imu

 

[Juanpiz]

Rate chapter for ju peter fans

 

[Definitivo]

Nope!

Blackbear explicitly is not the man to shoulder centuries of history.

Teach will not invoke the war the world government fears.

He is not the man the WG fear.

he will not take over the WG because he neither represents the atrocities Imu perpetrated nor can he shoulder its centuries of history

That translation seems incorrect.

Whitebeard only says that Teach is not the man Roger expects, which is obvious.

On the other hand, as @Erkan12 said, Oda made it clear that finding the One Piece is the end of the story.
Also, the idea that the great war will start after One Piece was always flawed, why would people rebel over a story from 800 years ago? It makes much more sense for them to rebel over something the World Government does in the present. AND THIS IS THE POINT WHERE WE ARE! The great war that Whitebeard predicted will be caused by the transmission of VegaPunk, not by the discovery of an ancient history.

Finally, Oda stated that the ending has not changed since he started drawing. Imu is clearly a character that Oda improvised in the final stage of the series, while Teach has a strong connection with Shanks, who appeared in chapter 1.

 

[Reborn]

So Roger was Pirate King, but never found One Piece? I see this is new lvl

Bruh

Just leave it.

BB is the tool to gather all ancient weapons, except Uranus, just to be used by real Pirate King Luffy

Luffy already has those Aw...

Infact, luffy became the tool for BB to get AWs

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Like the idea of Akainu falling next arc tbh. How and why would he come there though? How would the plot go ? @SakazOuki @Lee Ba Shou

Gorosei call: “Straw Hat Luffy killed Kizaru, we are heading to Elbaf to take his head.”
Sakazuki: “I’ll take his head myself. I’m see you at Elbaf.”

 

[Erkan12]

lol because it’s Teach being a tangible threat but it doesn’t mean he’s going to play a greater role. It’s so singling him out for the future.

Again, you can pretend Whitebeards death speech is not foreshadowing or Oda talking to the audience—good for you. I’m not illiterate so I won’t be doing that.

Teach is primed for the pirate king race right now.
The world government fears what happens after said race is concluded

Either teach doesn’t oppose Luffy, doesn’t directly fight the WG and tries too take over after Luffy beats Imu (which is a rather big waste of his character, to me.)

Or, Teach has grander ambitions but never reaches them and goes down in the race for the pirate king.

as far as I can see that’s the two roads most likely given Oda’s writing and one of them is more likely than the other

Oda showed what happens after the race concluded; Roger was literally hunted by everyone lmao

WB never said that shit, he was just trying to motivate people to go after OP.

Now acting like WB's uncertain future prediction is superior to the literally the writer of the series lmao. Oda clearly says OP is over with finding it. Which makes sense Luffy can't fight entire pirates who goes for OP and Government at the same time, Government falls before.

You think Imu and Saturn will hype Teach for PK race LMAO.

 

[Kakooli]

emu sana reveal in chapter 1118!

 

[HA001]

But that's the point. Blackbeard doesn't aim to be PK either, he aims for the world itself, like Xebec. He aims for the WG as well, just, contrary to Joyboy, not through methods of freedom/liberation but destruction and chaos.

ROGER BEAT ROX

ROGER COULDNT BEAT WG

we not just beating the rox or become pirate king we doing more than Roger

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

If literacy to you means reading one point and then not connecting it with points revealed later then I am better off without it

Also, Teach goal is to become king of the world - the thorne IMu has.


He isn't just looking for being Pk.


And, for the third time, I am not overlooking WB speech. I do agree with him that BB isn't the man World is waiting for.


But what I am saying is this doesn't mean BB won't play his role against IMu and luffy.

As of now, you are literally denying that role by saying he will fall before raftel ignoring multiple plots regarding him

1) Xebec will

2) Dream to be king of the world

3)Marked by IMu

4) special lineage said by Saturn

5)polar opposite of luffy

6) Most importantly, has ties with void century and now has info on Ancient weapons


It's naive on your part to think this character will go down before Raftel

LMFAO reborn is this serious? Let’s try this again.

1. Literally is the founder of the world government. Has his own will, not borrowing from a dead pirate.
2. Is king of the world
3. Is Imu
4. Is a mystery to the world and makes top tiers bend the knee to him
5. Quite literally the enemy of Joyboy
6. Literally has an ancient weapon and created the void century.

Any advantage you can possibly give to Teach, Imu has in spades.

And yes, Teach wants to the rule the world but look at his recent actions. What is the next step he’s taking as a pirate captain?

1. Looking for the man with the burned scar for the last poneglyph to Laugh tale
2. Attacking Law for his rubbings
3. Attacking WCI for Puddong to read the rubbings because Teach clearly knows less than Vegapunk and the Ohara academics

Add on that he’s tied to the hip with Shanks plot wise, the only other character to knock someone from the Pk race and it’s self evident where he’s going, what his next step is. He might get an ancient weapon even, but every recent step besides wanting to become a member of the WG is tied to the Pk race. He got a parallel to shanks over that