Powers & Abilities Why don’t people value future sight?
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Why not though ? Aren't you arguing it is ''overlooked'' ? So if Haki specialists don't use it and let their ''friends'' die what good is it for ? Dodge a hit that they would have dodged anyway because they are faster ?
The other thing that makes it ''overlooked'' is the fact that at the slightest fluster, it doesn't exist anymore...
The other thing that makes it ''overlooked'' is the fact that at the slightest fluster, it doesn't exist anymore...
It happened with hakai already. Luffy saw it. But massive aoe, no time to dodge.
How big was Ceaser's explosion? I don't even remember that arc tbh, aside from few key moments.
King's explosion was comparable to the size of Onigashima castle, and we saw how long Luffy was running around it, trying to get to the rooftop.
Yeah no, nobody is running away from that within 5 secs unless you're Kizaru or Enel or something.
Sure, I didn't say anything denying that.
My point was simply that for defensive/dodging purposes, logias use it the best because of the flexibility with their body.
Enel with armament haki and future sight is admiral level.
How big was Ceaser's explosion? I don't even remember that arc tbh, aside from few key moments.
King's explosion was comparable to the size of Onigashima castle, and we saw how long Luffy was running around it, trying to get to the rooftop.
Yeah no, nobody is running away from that within 5 secs unless you're Kizaru or Enel or something.
Sure, I didn't say anything denying that.
My point was simply that for defensive/dodging purposes, logias use it the best because of the flexibility with their body.
Enel with armament haki and future sight is admiral level.
It’s because it’s an inconsistent plot device. People trying to over-analyze it in powerscaling fashion are just wasting their time.
There’s no definite indicator of when it’s being used besides a character outright saying it, and it will always be subject to plot.
Oda would never have the likes of Shanks or Luffy manhandle Big Mom even though they technically should since she doesn’t have it, for example.
It’s just like base Luffy was dodging Katakuri’s attacks for hours even before he figured it out. It only matters when Oda wants it to.
There’s no definite indicator of when it’s being used besides a character outright saying it, and it will always be subject to plot.
Oda would never have the likes of Shanks or Luffy manhandle Big Mom even though they technically should since she doesn’t have it, for example.
It’s just like base Luffy was dodging Katakuri’s attacks for hours even before he figured it out. It only matters when Oda wants it to.
Mainly because it's a tool only used when convenient. On most occasions though forgottrn as we've seen luffy getting hit by some apoo.
Also zoro does show several feats that clearly indicate he's using FS already. He only didn't get 50 dedicated learning chapters like luffy's divine magical super rare plot armored mythical zoan ass did.
Which feats am I speaking of?
One example is zoro's quicker reaction time to hakai, FS luffy was still staring when zoro had already clashed with the wave
Also zoro does show several feats that clearly indicate he's using FS already. He only didn't get 50 dedicated learning chapters like luffy's divine magical super rare plot armored mythical zoan ass did.
Which feats am I speaking of?
One example is zoro's quicker reaction time to hakai, FS luffy was still staring when zoro had already clashed with the wave
That's not how it works tho.
Having future sight doesn't take away the opponent's reflex and basic observation haki.
Once you act upon the future, you change it.
It is just a minor improvement in ability to land attacks.
Strength of future sight is dodging/countering.
This is why pre FS Luffy could dodge/counter attacks from Katakuri, but couldn't land attacks on Katakuri.
BM is a special case tbh.
She does have decent reflex, could fight 1v2 against Law/Kid. However, I don't think her reflex is good enough to deal with G4/G5 Luffy, Shanks etc.
Yeah, but it works in Kaido's character who wants a physical fight.
Him dodging all of Snakeman's attacks after using it, was big hype for future sight really.
Having future sight doesn't take away the opponent's reflex and basic observation haki.
Once you act upon the future, you change it.
It is just a minor improvement in ability to land attacks.
Strength of future sight is dodging/countering.
This is why pre FS Luffy could dodge/counter attacks from Katakuri, but couldn't land attacks on Katakuri.
BM is a special case tbh.
She does have decent reflex, could fight 1v2 against Law/Kid. However, I don't think her reflex is good enough to deal with G4/G5 Luffy, Shanks etc.
Yeah, but it works in Kaido's character who wants a physical fight.
Him dodging all of Snakeman's attacks after using it, was big hype for future sight really.
FS is a super inconsistent ability that is subject to incredible amounts of PIS moments.
The only character who uses it as a win condition is Katakuri, and while he’s strong, he’s a far cry from top tiers and there are several characters stronger than him who have not shown it.
And I do believe that high-level speed and large AOE are valid counters to FS. It’s sound logic, and we’ve seen Kizaru (who hasn’t revealed FS himself) easily deal with Snakeman which we can assume uses FS by default based on Luffy/Kaido’s interaction.
FS is a strong ability and it would obviously benefit the vast majority of characters who don’t have it. But the way that Oda utilizes it in fights makes it both obscure and borderline obsolete most of the time. Moments where FS would otherwise be incredibly necessary (for example, Luffy getting jumped by Mr. Go) it suddenly vanishes.
The only character who uses it as a win condition is Katakuri, and while he’s strong, he’s a far cry from top tiers and there are several characters stronger than him who have not shown it.
And I do believe that high-level speed and large AOE are valid counters to FS. It’s sound logic, and we’ve seen Kizaru (who hasn’t revealed FS himself) easily deal with Snakeman which we can assume uses FS by default based on Luffy/Kaido’s interaction.
FS is a strong ability and it would obviously benefit the vast majority of characters who don’t have it. But the way that Oda utilizes it in fights makes it both obscure and borderline obsolete most of the time. Moments where FS would otherwise be incredibly necessary (for example, Luffy getting jumped by Mr. Go) it suddenly vanishes.
