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Some more clashes and then they bail, feels like the end of the arc. There wont be any prolonged fights with the Gorosei.

The Robot served as a distraction to help the straw hats and Vegapunks escape.
I am low key looking as much forward to Gandhi vs Zoro (Actual Battle) as Mihawk vs Zoro.
Zero interest in Shiryu vs Zoro.

Fujitora or Kizaru vs Zoro would be sick too @SakazOuki
 
And yet, I felt very sad after this chapter. The feeling of lost time, lost potential. My dear marines. The East Blue villains. They are all much more interesting than those on whom Oda has spent the last few years. Time is running out. It's very sad.
 

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Some more clashes and then they bail, feels like the end of the arc. There wont be any prolonged fights with the Gorosei.

The Robot served as a distraction to help the straw hats and Vegapunks escape.
It's interesting to see what happens now,

Zoro never has help vs a swordsman
Zoro can't lose to a swordsman
Nasjuro won't lose now

If a simple clash threw them both back I wonder what a proper koh vs acoc clash would do.
 
Yeah but it will be another, opponent is too weak but has a trick fight and those are lame. Like this is the coolest clash of Zoro we have seen probably entire post time skip.
I mean what can you do man. If Shiryu awakens his fruit it could be sick and would be a tough battle dealing with someone that maybe even normal CoO cant detect.
 
And people downplay Sanji feat lol

Nesujuro CoO is great, he just couldn't do a thing against Sanji’s speed

Zoro despite flying fast after being thrown, Nesujuro still sensed him and defended himself while Sanji was too fast for him: blocked and kicked him to the chin

Base Sanji Speed > Zoro's speed after being thrown
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Only Yonko level guys can skyplit

Zoro isn't top tier
Nesujuro is barely FA level
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Well I'm not sure Queen is above Smoothie. We don't know Smoothie's real powerlevel yet but we know Smoothie is more competent she never attacked her own subordinates unlike Queen during raid of Onigashima.
It had been decides since their headquarters got attacked like that and that dumb clown attacking his own subordinates in danger moment like that. Actually Smoothie asked for Baron Tamago's advice once and showed she has good teamwork with her crew, respecting the weaker / lower ranked but older and more experienced crewmember.
We don’t know shit about Smoothie real power so de facto she is below. Real feats > no feats when there is no superior portrayal.

‘and Smoothie and Cracker had no portrayal as being specials, especially compared to Kata who was the special one.

Smoothie is stronger than Cracker thanks to her bounty being above so having higher portrayal thanks to that.

‘For the Beast Pirate it’s diffetent. Jack is the bum one and the least special while Queen and King are being paired a lot and have close bounties compared to Jack. And had back to back main fight with the SH. So I think it paints Queen portrayal in his own crew higher than Smoothie portrayal in her crew.

‘So yeah Queen > Smoothie for now


Compared to Blackbeard's YC2 Aokiji, Queen is low diff material. Even if we count Ace which is like Whitebeard's YC3, Queen is still below Ace. In the end he even lost to Straw Hats' YC3.
Yeah he is lower YC2 compared to average YC2, no reason to exclude Aokiji and Roo just because they are stronger.
Aokiji is not an exemple lol, the man can neg diff all the other YC2 together and even the YC1 together.

‘Ace is also a weird case not a real YC2.

Lol at Sanji being weaker than Jimbo

Roo is also a wild case because Shanks crew is particular. It’s like to add Gaban to the discussion.

Between the 3 comparable crews : WBP, BMP and BP : Queen is middle pack.

‘If you take into account Roo, BBP number 2 yeah Queen is lower tier just above Smoothie.


Sanji was hurt. But as shown in Queen fight now he has regeneration, so the damage is recovered now.
In Queen fight we saw Sanji suffering and being destroyed by Queen snake mode. Here we have nothing : no hurt bubble, no pain, no scream, no aftermath where he is in shambles.

‘So yeah I don’t think he felt nothing but he wasn’t hurt a lot at all

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How in the fuck is Koby not one. I'm offended.
Coby is a G
 
I am low key looking as much forward to Gandhi vs Zoro (Actual Battle) as Mihawk vs Zoro.
Zero interest in Shiryu vs Zoro.

Fujitora or Kizaru vs Zoro would be sick too @SakazOuki
Bruh let's stop acting as if Shiryu is nothing without his invisible gimmick
He was Magellan's equal without it
He left timeskip, without it, meant the thing he improved during timeskip (Blackbeard Pirates also got much stronger during timeskip in mirror to Straw Hats, right) is his haki. Same with Zoro then? And we saw how strong Zoro was compared to others like Luffy / Sanji right after timeskip

There is also a reason why Blackbeard specifically picked Suke Suke for Shiryu, while he skipped the likes of Marco and Jozu's DF.
Shiryu will 100% be a monster, not just an invisible gimmick
 
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