Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

deteriorating tradition

Yup, that's not a bad thing if said traditions are hurtfull

spreading degeneracy

How ? Go on, tell me what type of "degeneracy" it is spreading..

But careful, I got Bob and herrera, you don't want me to get you too.

increasing crime rate

I think you are speaking about capitalism here

increasing taxation/bureaucracy

Yup on the rich, actual good thing.

creating authoritarian regimes

Not more than any other side of the political scale no.
If you want me to talk about fascism that is a far right creation, we can play.

#1 ideology in terms of genocides too

Same thing.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Idiots... I mean Dems and leftists, these are yours

 

[Zenos7]

Bro,all morality boils down to religion form eons ago. People that came before us established the rules. You might not be a Christian,but if you are a western,there is a lot of Christinity ingrained in you.

We abolished slavery in spite of religion, not because of it. Slavery is a thing in all abrahamic religions

 

[Logiko]

We abolished slavery in spite of religion, not because of it. Slavery is a thing in all abrahamic religions

The guy thinks that before religion, in hunter gatherer society or post neolithic eras it was okay to kill..

@NAMELESS How do you think humanity survived before the creation of the bible ?

 

[Zenos7]

Miss me with this "everyone is inheritenly Christian" nonsense.

Amen
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The Bible silly

Yeah, so no word of god
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Psychopathy is a neurological problem like autism most likely. Why are you playing dumb? I was clearly talking about the Bible there. Don't believe it? Suit yourself.

Yes and its not ingrained in at least psychopathic people.

Ye no thanks to the bible

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

It is superior at deteriorating tradition, spreading degeneracy, increasing crime rate, increasing taxation/bureaucracy and creating authoritarian regimes. #1 ideology in terms of genocides too. Congratulations, you guys are champions at mass killing.

Yesterday you called your own country's culture satanic and now you're suddenly into tradition. :saden:

 

[NAMELESS]

We abolished slavery in spite of religion, not because of it. Slavery is a thing in all abrahamic religions

What does that have to do with anything i said? Where did Jesus advocate for slavery in the new testament? Slavery is gone thanks to British Protestantism(A Christian movement). Read a history book before spewing nonsense.
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Amen
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Yeah, so no word of god
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Yes and its not ingrained in at least psychopathic people.

Ye no thanks to the bible

Because they literally have a neurological defect, fucktard. That is like saying vision, hearing, smell and so on are not part of human nature cause some people don't have those. I see you are just throwing shit around to see what sticks. You are militant atheist trying to sound cool and intelectual. Go to the shadow realm(my ignore list).
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Yesterday you called your own country's culture satanic and now you're suddenly into tradition. :saden:

I'm into tradition. Modern day Brazil barely resembles what it once was. Just like Eurabia will be a thing and Europe will barely resemble what it once was in the past.
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The guy thinks that before religion, in hunter gatherer society or post neolithic eras it was okay to kill..

@NAMELESS How do you think humanity survived before the creation of the bible ?

Are you dumb? Before Christianity there were a bazillion religions. How does that imply it was okay to murder? You murder someone from a different tribe you are getting yourself and your tribe into a conflict with a nearby tribe. It wasn't okay, but it happened. Just like war is not okay and we have Ukraine-Russia/Israel-Hamas going on right now.
Your schizoid personality must have degraded your IQ. These are obvious facts, but you don't really care about facts.
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Don't let anyone stop you from advocating for what you believe in I guess

Herrera lacked self awareness.
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But careful, I got Bob and herrera, you don't want me to get you too.

I was the first to ask for a Herrera ban.
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My post wasn’t even necessarily from an Islamic perspective, however this is ironic lol. Like you and the active posters on this thread aren’t doing this in spades

Logiko tries to sound like an intellectual and thinks socialism/leftism is superior.

Yourself, Toby, and others think Liberalism as an ideology is superior and shun people who oppose it by name calling.

Someone else might think X ideology is superior. All the same. Address the arguments, you barely say anything of actual value.

Dude, Solis in an instigator and cyber bully. He only comes here to bait people. I barely interact with this clown nowadays. I suggest you put some of these into your ignore list and this thread might just become less shitty. There only a few users lurking in here that are worth taking them seriously.

 

[Zenos7]

What does that have to do with anything i said? Where did Jesus advocate for slavery in the new testament? Slavery is gone thanks to British Protestantism(A Christian movement). Read a history book before spewing nonsense.

where did jesus condemn or forbid slavery? wasnt he the one telling slaves to be good to their masters?

protestants abolishing slavery doesnt mean anything in the religion lead to that. because it didnt, because nothing in the main scripture of christianity prohibits or condemns slavery. not to mention how long it took after christianity established itself lul
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Because they literally have a neurological defect, fucktard. That is like saying vision, hearing, smell and so on are not part of human nature cause some people don't have those. I see you are just throwing shit around to see what sticks. You are militant atheist trying to sound cool and intelectual. Go to the shadow realm(my ignore list).

nah, you just made a sweeping and generalizing statement that isnt true in all cases. not my problem you suck at communicating your thoughts. and this point didnt really have anything to do with atheism either.
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Are you dumb? Before Christianity there were a bazillion religions

"religions" are extremely diverse and usually mutually exclusive.

 

[NAMELESS]

where did jesus condemn or forbid slavery? wasnt he the one telling slaves to be good to their masters?

protestants abolishing slavery doesnt mean anything in the religion lead to that. because it didnt, because nothing in the main scripture of christianity prohibits or condemns slavery. not to mention how long it took after christianity established itself lul
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nah, you just made a sweeping and generalizing statement that isnt true in all cases. not my problem you suck at communicating your thoughts. and this point didnt really have anything to do with atheism either.
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"religions" are extremely diverse and usually mutually exclusive.

I just don't have the patient for illiterates like you today. You spewing old translation problems and ignoring that life 2000 years ago was very different than it is today . Read this and stop pestering me https://www.franciscanmedia.org/ask-a-franciscan/jesus-and-slavery/

 

[Zenos7]

You spewing old translation problems and ignoring that life 2000 years ago was very different than it is today .

you are trying to sell this scripture as gods word, so this "2000 years ago" crap is irrelevant. either its objective and valid for all times, or it isnt. cant have your cake and eat it too

 

[NAMELESS]

nah, you just made a sweeping and generalizing statement that isnt true in all cases. not my problem you suck at communicating your thoughts. and this point didnt really have anything to do with atheism either.
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"religions" are extremely diverse and usually mutually exclusive.

Empathy is intrinsic to the human experience. You are taking exceptions(neurologically divergent people) as the standard to make a point. Its not my fault you suck at logical reasoning and reading comprehension.

 

[Zenos7]

Empathy is intrinsic to the human experience. You are taking exceptions(neurologically divergent people) as the standard to make a point. Its not my fault you suck at logical reasoning and reading comprehension.

nah bro, you made a generalyzing statement lmfao. you said its "ingrained in your genes". and its not for all people, cry me a river.
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Go to the shadow realm(my ignore list).

also what happened to this

 

[NAMELESS]

you are trying to sell this scripture as gods word, so this "2000 years ago" crap is irrelevant. either its objective and valid for all times, or it isnt. cant have your cake and eat it too

The word used for slave can mean servant. These translations are skewed. You are making it as if it was clear cut.

nah bro, you made a generalyzing statement lmfao. you said its "ingrained in your genes". and its not for all people, cry me a river.
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also what happened to this

These fucking show ignored posts buttons are too tempting.
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nah bro, you made a generalyzing statement lmfao. you said its "ingrained in your genes". and its not for all people, cry me a river.
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also what happened to this

Yes,i told Uncle that hating evil shit is the norm for 99.9% of human beings and that it was possible it was ingrained in people genes. You are cherry piciking shit to seem smart. The genes are there, psychopathy has to do with low activity in the pre frontal cortex. Evidence suggests its a NEUROLOGICAL PROBLEM and not a genetic one.
"UHHHHH WALKING ISNT THE NORM BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE ARE CRIPPLED. YOU ARE GENERALIZING"
See how retarded your logic is. You have reading comprehension problems, son.

 

[Zenos7]

The word used for slave can mean servant. These translations are skewed. You are making it as if it was clear cut.

These fucking show ignored posts is too tempting.

well, couldnt care less if jews were allowed to beat their "servants" as long as they survived the injuries, its fucked up nonetheless.

and indentured servitude isnt the only form in the bible, you can also be a war captive or be born into slavery.

 

[NAMELESS]

well, couldnt care less if jews were allowed to beat their "servants" as long as they survived the injuries, its fucked up nonetheless.

and indentured servitude isnt the only form in the bible, you can also be a war captive or be born into slavery.

Yes and where did Jesus explicit say:" Hey,guys just let some random bozo shackle you,comply and behave". If you actually analyze the Christian moral, it is very clearly anti-slavery,but... 2000 years ago slavery was an institution. Civilization has evolved past the need of it. Its the same reason people don't kill crippled babies anymore,we evolved past it. Jesus would probably get speared to death immediately if he openly condemned slavery.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Just like Eurabia will be a thing and Europe will barely resemble what it once was in the past.

What past are you talking about? 500 years ago? 1000 years? 5000?

Modern day Brazil barely resembles what it once was.

You mean compared to the time when the Amazon rainforest was home to multiple civilisations numbering millions of citizens?

You murder someone from a different tribe you are getting yourself and your tribe into a conflict with a nearby tribe. It wasn't okay, but it happened.

Yesterday you said that tribes used to eat each other on a regular basis. Be consistent fluffy.

religions" are extremely diverse and usually mutually exclusive.

Actually no. That's more of an abrahamic thing and even there syncretism is basically everywhere.

 

[NAMELESS]

What past are you talking about? 500 years ago? 1000 years? 5000?

You mean compared to the time when the Amazon rainforest was home to multiple civilisations numbering millions of citizens?

Yesterday you said that tribes used to eat each other on a regular basis. Be consistent fluffy.

Actually no. That's more of an abrahamic thing and even there syncretism is basically everywhere.

Bad faith argument, bro. You will never get laid behaving like this.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

you are trying to sell this scripture as gods word, so this "2000 years ago" crap is irrelevant. either its objective and valid for all times, or it isnt. cant have your cake and eat it too

Nameless is the textbook definition of cherry picking.

Empathy is intrinsic to the human experience. You are taking exceptions(neurologically divergent people) as the standard to make a point. Its not my fault you suck at logical reasoning and reading comprehension.

Don't worry nobody takes you as the standard for human nature.

Its the same reason people don't kill crippled babies anymore,we evolved past it.

There's no need. We have abortion today

 

[NAMELESS]

well, couldnt care less if jews were allowed to beat their "servants" as long as they survived the injuries, its fucked up nonetheless.

and indentured servitude isnt the only form in the bible, you can also be a war captive or be born into slavery.

But of course, slavery is mentioned multiple times in the old testament because it was a social institution at that time(and after it too for quite a while). Christians did practice slavery,but it was despite of religion and not because of it. If all things are to be considered, slavery is a no no nowadays thanks to the British Empire and Christian Protestants. So using slavery as an attack to christianity is retarded.
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Nameless is the textbook definition of cherry picking.

Don't worry nobody takes you as the standard for human nature.


There's no need. We have abortion today

* legalized child murder.
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Nameless is the textbook definition of cherry picking.

Don't worry nobody takes you as the standard for human nature.


There's no need. We have abortion today

shut up, mohamed.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Bad faith argument, bro. You will never get laid behaving like this.

Yes you alone follow the right and good faith

slavery is a no no nowadays thanks to the British Empire

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