Controversial General Political Discussion

[NAMELESS]

@Zenos7 "slavery was abolished in despite of religion"
https://www.britannica.com/summary/Abolitionism-Key-Facts
"Despite its brutality and inhumanity, the slave system aroused little protest until the 18th century when rationalist thinkers of the Enlightenment began to criticize it. They argued that certain rights, including liberty, belonged to all individuals. Quaker and other evangelical religious groups also condemned slavery for its un-Christian qualities."
Yeah, Christianity has nothing to do with the abolition of slavery.

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I'm not Muslim if that's what you're implying.

You are all soon to be Mohameds. I'm pretty sure you said you had muslim roots too. Probably just another one of your lies too. It doesn't matter.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

slavery is a no no nowadays thanks to the British Empire

Dunno who that white dude is, but he looks German to me,

rationalist thinkers of the Enlightenment

Next time you decide to cherry pick from your sources better not quote the parts you choose to ignore.

 

[NAMELESS]

You just said->

We did, but the degeneracy is strong nowadays. Hunting to feed your kids is a no no in some places, but you can murder them before they are born.

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Yesterday you said that tribes used to eat each other on a regular basis. Be consistent fluffy.

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You are too dumb to realize it,but this reinforces my point. That is not the proper way to troll

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

We did, but the degeneracy is strong nowadays. Hunting to feed your kids is a no no in some places, but you can murder them before they are born.

What about hunting babies to feed your pre existing kids? What does the Bible say about it?

 

[NAMELESS]

Next time you decide to cherry pick from your sources better not quote the parts you choose to ignore.

Quaker and other evangelical religious groups also condemned slavery for its un-Christian qualities."
You think the average joe was a philosopher back in the day? See how dumb you guys are. The new education systems you guys adopted in Germany is showing its effect already. The two Germans guys that decided to troll me today are definitely dumber than old school Germans.

 

[Zenos7]

@Zenos7 "slavery was abolished in despite of religion"

interesting way of putting me on ignore, spamming me with posts lmao.

the new testament isnt doing anything to go against what the old establishes for slavery. no matter how much you cry

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"Despite its brutality and inhumanity, the slave system aroused little protest until the 18th century when rationalist thinkers of the Enlightenment began to criticize it. They argued that certain rights, including liberty, belonged to all individuals. Quaker and other evangelical religious groups also condemned slavery for its un-Christian qualities."
Yeah, Christianity has nothing to do with the abolition of slavery.

"some christians said it was un-christian".

your copy-paste here literally states that enlightenment thinkers were the key reason, because christianity and other abrahamic religions were fine with this shit for centuries

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Next time you decide to cherry pick from your sources better not quote the parts you choose to ignore.

lmao

 

[RebelliousSoma]

Dunno who that white dude is, but he looks German to me, Mohamed. What do you think?

He is part German and there's nothing wrong with being German.

 

[NAMELESS]

interesting way of putting me on ignore, spamming me with posts lmao.

the new testament isnt doing anything to go against what the old establishes for slavery. no matter how much you cry

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"some christians said it was un-christian".

your copy-paste here literally states that enlightenment thinkers were the key reason, because christianity and other abrahamic religions were fine with this shit for centuries

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lmao

shit...so the average joe was a philosopher? Popular pressure had nothing to do with it? Are you sure the slave owners(which were the people that had money and time to study philosophy) would just let their slave trading empires die because they decided it was a good thing. This is either naivety or straight up dishonesty. The Brazilian Monarchy literally suffered a military coup because they outlawed slavery.

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He is part German and there's nothing wrong with being German.

Don't take it personally. I'm just baiting him in the most effective way.

 

[Zenos7]

at that time

so what?i thought its the word of god and gives us objective morality? why isnt it applicable at all times then?

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* legalized child murder

Exod 21:22-25 NRSVUE - “When people who are fighting injure - Bible Gateway

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

the slave system aroused little protest until the 18th century when rationalist thinkers of the Enlightenment began to criticize it. They argued that certain rights, including liberty, belonged to all individuals. Quaker and other evangelical religious groups also condemned slavery for its un-Christian qualities."

Here the full quote again. Please read it again.

You are all soon to be Mohameds. I'm pretty sure you said you had muslim roots too. Probably just another one of your lies too. It doesn't matter.

Nice how you change topics so easily when the debate doesn't go your way.

 

[Logiko]

@Zenos7 "slavery was abolished in despite of religion"
https://www.britannica.com/summary/Abolitionism-Key-Facts
"Despite its brutality and inhumanity, the slave system aroused little protest until the 18th century when rationalist thinkers of the Enlightenment began to criticize it. They argued that certain rights, including liberty, belonged to all individuals. Quaker and other evangelical religious groups also condemned slavery for its un-Christian qualities."
Yeah, Christianity has nothing to do with the abolition of slavery.

Do you feel like the depsychiatrization of Gay and Trans people has something to do with religion ?

 

[NAMELESS]

interesting way of putting me on ignore, spamming me with posts lmao.

the new testament isnt doing anything to go against what the old establishes for slavery. no matter how much you cry

oh yeah, Christ asking slaves/servants to be treated farily did nothing to improve their condition. Dude, just admit you ignorant on christian history. I'm not educated in a bunch of topics either and so is everyone else. Take your L like a man. There is nothing Christian about slavery. Slavery existed in despite of Christianity. The first nations to abolish slavery were Christian ones too.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

We did, but the degeneracy is strong nowadays. Hunting to feed your kids is a no no in some places, but you can murder them before they are born.

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You killed the quote fluffy

interesting way of putting me on ignore, spamming me with posts lmao.

He did the same with demenus yesterday

 

[Zenos7]

That's more of an abrahamic thing and even there syncretism is basically everywhere.

if religions have different creation stories, then they cant be true at the same time, and are therefore mutually exclusive. probably not true for every religion, but still

 

[NAMELESS]

if religions have different creation stories, then they cant be true at the same time, and are therefore mutually exclusive. probably not true for every religion, but still

They can have different creation stories and still have similar teachings. Not every religion treats creation myths as dogmas of faith. Just look at Asian religions. Another L

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

shit...so the average joe was a philosopher? Popular pressure had nothing to do with it? Are you sure the slave owners(which were the people that had money and time to study philosophy) would just let their slave trading empires die because they decided it was a good thing.

Nice, more goalpost moving and topic changing, very effective trolling from your side here, congratulations 👏👏🏼👏🏾👏🏽👏🏿👏🏻

 

[NAMELESS]

You killed the quote fluffy

He did the same with demenus yesterday

I do it with you all the time. Why are you not happy about it?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

so what?i thought its the word of god and gives us objective morality? why isnt it applicable at all times then?

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Exod 21:22-25 NRSVUE - “When people who are fighting injure - Bible Gateway

Miscarriage is not categorized as harm🤔 explain this @NAMELESS

Take your L like a man

 

[NAMELESS]

Nice, more goalpost moving and topic changing, very effective trolling from your side here, congratulations 👏👏🏼👏🏾👏🏽👏🏿👏🏻

Go play in the yard, kid. Adults talking. If anything,its this guy changing subjects.

 

[Logiko]

Are you dumb? Before Christianity there were a bazillion religions. How does that imply it was okay to murder? You murder someone from a different tribe you are getting yourself and your tribe into a conflict with a nearby tribe. It wasn't okay, but it happened. Just like war is not okay and we have Ukraine-Russia/Israel-Hamas going on right now.
Your schizoid personality must have degraded your IQ. These are obvious facts, but you don't really care about facts.

No there might have been cults, but no "religions". How did the hunter gatherer managed to survive without a morality based on religion then ?

The answer is simple : Because morality is a prerequisite to survivorship. Without it, you can hope to create a working society.

Also you might wanna take a look at this ma boy:

https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/morality_animals
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6404642/

I was the first to ask for a Herrera ban.

Take care of your butt