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Policies like that don’t last, it’s going to be overturned. Acting like that one move in Oklahoma is somehow going to bring about a theocracy is wild.
Yeah Trump is not bringing a theocracy lol, he’s just as “secular” as Biden. Nothing to predict there.
Its not the first such a move and a dozen of other republican controlled states already proposed similar moves and are just waiting for Trump to win and control both parliaments, but sure keep showing your ignorance when your whole profile alone already shows that you support such policies anyway.
You’re overreacting, it’s already being taught in like hundreds of schools:
https://www.foxnews.com/faith-value...-schools-nationwide-learn-bible-this-year.amp
The Oklahoma state superintendent said it would be taught through a historical lens. Only difference is that they passed a mandate instead. Like this isn’t going to bring about a theocracy whether I support it or not is irrelevant.
He doesn’t even realize that Trump is operating under the likes of AIPAC and similar lobby groups just as much as Biden is. Trump in 2016 acted like he was going against them by saying he was going to drain the swamp, he talks the talk to get support from his base but he like others cannot walk the walk.
https://www.foxnews.com/faith-value...-schools-nationwide-learn-bible-this-year.amp
The Oklahoma state superintendent said it would be taught through a historical lens. Only difference is that they passed a mandate instead. Like this isn’t going to bring about a theocracy whether I support it or not is irrelevant.
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He doesn’t even realize that Trump is operating under the likes of AIPAC and similar lobby groups just as much as Biden is. Trump in 2016 acted like he was going against them by saying he was going to drain the swamp, he talks the talk to get support from his base but he like others cannot walk the walk.
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Only a bunch? Dude, that country has millions of evangelicals and its the only big christian denomination in the US that is actually growing, and yes, a good chunk of them are this extremist and part of the MAGA movement aswell that they do want this.
And i'm not even talking about them being able to change the constiution officially in such ways unless Trump and his cronies declare themselves as Dictators and somehow succeed cause of the existence of filibuster alone (gl getting 60+ seats in Senate with how polarized this country is between 2 parties), it would honestly be enough if they bring this topic to the supreme court. US democracy isn't as fullproof as some of you still apparently believe.
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Yeah sure, i do not know that Trump is operating under AIPAC what a joke man (not to mention that Netanjahu wants Trump to become president again so your assessment on that is also laughably wrong), putting words under my mouth and sucker punching for no good reason. And again, i never said this move in Oklahoma in particular brings in a Theocracy goddamnit. Anyway, i'm moving on and just gonna ignore your ass.
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Tbh it was a hyperbole to make it clear how dumb this religious motivated shit is and that they might aswell do that as a next logical step if they could (currently indeed not the case and it better stays this way) and then Haoshoku moved in and put words into my mouth which made me angry. Should have just ignored him after that first response, but anyways i'm just gonna move on now.
Aight, just wanted to make sure. I can never see America going full Christian Theocracy....
I do think that a focus on Christian extremists is a little bad faith however. We have plenty of people all over the world voting for their religion's interest. There were people voting in the council elections in the UK for Muslim candidates because of issues Palestine (which shouldn't even play a role in a local council election).
From my perspective, such fear only raises it's head and becomes a problem when Christians might vote as a block. I don't quite understand that line of thinking.
Nonetheless, such things are pretty baseless. Trump, even if he wins, will not change much. He is not going to ruin America. He'll just do the same things Biden has. Status quo, baby.
I do think that a focus on Christian extremists is a little bad faith however. We have plenty of people all over the world voting for their religion's interest. There were people voting in the council elections in the UK for Muslim candidates because of issues Palestine (which shouldn't even play a role in a local council election).
From my perspective, such fear only raises it's head and becomes a problem when Christians might vote as a block. I don't quite understand that line of thinking.
Nonetheless, such things are pretty baseless. Trump, even if he wins, will not change much. He is not going to ruin America. He'll just do the same things Biden has. Status quo, baby.
Girl if you hang out with these circles you'd know that only few of them have any appetite for the so called theocracy.
Hence why many churches is closing down
Other's are just being reactionary against what they think it's an extreme woke., Christianity just a tool
I'd argue that White ethno state or White Centric United States is LOT more possible than any theocracy.
Christianity in US too divided too form a single unit
After all Millions of Christo immigrants from south America still getting demonized 24/7.
Many prominent evangelicals/conservatives still have resentment towards Blacks and refuse to see them as equal despite behind co-religionist etc
And There's too much checks of power in US for Trump to be any kind of dictator
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Classic US constitution is perfectly compatible with White supremacism not theocracy
You need to see a bigger picture and that is the case in the rest of the world as well.
It's more of NATIVIST uprising than religious revival.
The normies might seem to be that for you but the elites are pure racial supremacist
Hence why many churches is closing down
Other's are just being reactionary against what they think it's an extreme woke., Christianity just a tool
I'd argue that White ethno state or White Centric United States is LOT more possible than any theocracy.
Christianity in US too divided too form a single unit
After all Millions of Christo immigrants from south America still getting demonized 24/7.
Many prominent evangelicals/conservatives still have resentment towards Blacks and refuse to see them as equal despite behind co-religionist etc
And There's too much checks of power in US for Trump to be any kind of dictator
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Classic US constitution is perfectly compatible with White supremacism not theocracy
You need to see a bigger picture and that is the case in the rest of the world as well.
It's more of NATIVIST uprising than religious revival.
The normies might seem to be that for you but the elites are pure racial supremacist
That's true for the general average protestant and catholics to the point more and more churches are closing down, but i'm not talking about your average joe (former) christian, but evangelical denominations which if anything only radicalized in the last few decades, are intertwined with white supremacist nationalism and increased their influence over one of US 2 major parties over decades.
Both things can happen at the same time and aren't mutually exclusive to each other.
I fully agree with you btw that this is more of a nativist and nationalist uprising than a religious one, the religious nutjobs are just intertwined/connected into this shit.
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The white nationalists employ it as a tool to sway the religious minded Christians but that’s about it, for them it’s just a cultural thing. The Evangelicals on the other hand are more concerned about supporting Zionism , they don’t really care about white nationalism like that.
White nationalism is nothing short of clownery bro lmao. They got no leg to stand on and always sound lost.
White nationalism is nothing short of clownery bro lmao. They got no leg to stand on and always sound lost.
Just focusing on this part since i fully agree with the rest of your post. This really depends on the perspective of things. Another Trump presidency and even Senate falling to Republicans would be terrible for the civil rights of some minorities throughout the country, especially muslim immigrants and trans people (who are already basically outlawed in some republican states).
Would a Trump presidency change much about basic democratic rights of your average white men or even women (outside of right to Abortion which already got overturned by Supreme Court), heck even non-queer black men & women (gerrymandering already exists)? No.
Would Europe actually be donated to Russia or similar fundamental foreign policy changes? Trump isn't that much of an idiot but about America first populism, as you could already see in his first presidency and his administrations relations with EU-countries.
Would a Trump presidency change much about basic democratic rights of your average white men or even women (outside of right to Abortion which already got overturned by Supreme Court), heck even non-queer black men & women (gerrymandering already exists)? No.
Would Europe actually be donated to Russia or similar fundamental foreign policy changes? Trump isn't that much of an idiot but about America first populism, as you could already see in his first presidency and his administrations relations with EU-countries.
