Questions & Mysteries Did Akainu save Kizaru ?

#21
Bruh he pressed a master swordsman (Ray) in CQC and had Snakeman huffing and puffing unable to do anything against him point blank.....this is a batshit crazy take to have.
n he only succesfully landed when he left the scene and got a long range attack off luffy wasn’t even using acoc it would’ve been a lot different luffy could take multiple hits from kizaru while all it takes is luffy to blitz and one hit to put him down
 
#22
Imma be honest, even with Kizaru holding back, with feats we can argue a fight against Kaidou and Big Mom would simply come down to Kaidou and Kizaru. Kizaru makes Big Mom a non factor in this, she can't keep up or tag him not only because he's the fastest in the verse, but also him being a true intangible logia the homies cannot stop him either, so she has no means of playing a significant part if Kizaru wants to play hit and run.

It's no wonder then that Kizaru was so confident given his abilities because remember Kaidou could not even perceive G4 Snakeman.

Taking down the 2 of them is different from handling business and separating them. He now has the speed feats to back his statement, especially when you factor in he never went all out.

No one is catching Kizaru if he wants to escape, so to answer your question, no Akainu did not save him he could save himself at any point by leaving if he felt threatened.
Given that his lightspeed kicks can only do 1 HP damage to Base Franky, Kizaru will pass out from exhaustion before he can KO Meme
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#23
Given that his lightspeed kicks can only do 1 HP damage to Base Franky, Kizaru will pass out from exhaustion before he can KO Meme
Why would he kick Big Mom? He has lasers to pierce through her. Lasers Big Mom canonically feared. He's piecing her up with ama no murakumo.

The only time he'd kick her is if he's tryna bfr her, which is very possible too in a 2v1, he could attempt to separate the two that way.
 
#24
Why would he kick Big Mom? He has lasers to pierce through her. Lasers Big Mom canonically feared. He's piecing her up with ama no murakumo.

The only time he'd kick her is if he's tryna bfr her, which is very possible too in a 2v1, he could attempt to separate the two that way.
What’s the most durable thing Kizaru’s lasers pierced?
 
#25
u think kizaru long range attacks are putting big mom down durability too much for tht kizaru would have to use closer attacks to rlly harm big mom n thts when kizaru is done because he’s a long range fighter close range is bad for him
He doesn’t need to put her down, just drive her away. And besides that, it does seem that a bunch of lasers would indeed do some damage. She was trying to block Franky’s pale imitation of it, for example.
Not that Kizaru would have any problems with closer attacks either. He could not only match Snakeman’s speed but move even faster than that Luffy could perceive. I don’t know where you got close range being bad for him. He had Rayleigh huffing and sweating keeping up with him.

Kizaru is simply one of the worst match ups you could want to give Big Mom.
It’s the hardest to hit character vs one of the most often hit ones.
 
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ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#26
What’s the most durable thing Kizaru’s lasers pierced?
Idk but what i do know is lasers neg durability to the point where VPs were worried for Seraphim who are far more durable than Big Mom, Big Mom was subconsciously shitting her pants at the thought of taking a radical beam, and that some metal beams were able to damage her given enough force. No shot he's not piecing her up like butter with his light saber.
 
#28
Idk but what i do know is lasers neg durability to the point where VPs were worried for Seraphim who are far more durable than Big Mom, Big Mom was subconsciously shitting her pants at the thought of taking a radical beam, and that some metal beams were able to damage her given enough force. No shot he's not piecing her up like butter with his light saber.
If they negate durability, why did Kizaru’s light sword not cut right through Rayleigh’s sword?
 
#29
Best case scenario is Kaido brutalizes Kizaru, breaking his will and forcing him to join his crew, worst case scenario is Kaido just kills him, either way, Akainu saved him from a sad fate indeed.
kizaru lucky luffy isn’t the type to stomp on his opponents while they’re down knowing he could’ve followed kizaru to the ship n finished him right then n there
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#30
If they negate durability, why did Kizaru’s light sword not cut right through Rayleigh’s sword?
Law's Kroom went through BM like butter and it negates durability yet was stopped in its tracks in a clash. Stop asking stupid questions, Ray is a haki god actively defending with god tier haki. This is different from BM's passive durability which hakiless steal beams can damage.
 
#31
Best case scenario is Kaido brutalizes Kizaru, breaking his will and forcing him to join his crew, worst case scenario is Kaido just kills him, either way, Akainu saved him from a sad fate indeed.
Kaido beats him mid to high diff depending on whether Kizaru has awakening, but I don't see him making him a pirate. Kizaru would probably just flee or be imprisoned.
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Law's Kroom went through BM like butter and it negates durability yet was stopped in its tracks in a clash. Stop asking stupid questions, Ray is a haki god actively defending with god tier haki. This is different from BM's passive durability which hakiless steal beams can damage.
This is dumb. The steel beams didn't hurt her and I don't see how you even thought that
 
#32
Idk but what i do know is lasers neg durability to the point where VPs were worried for Seraphim who are far more durable than Big Mom, Big Mom was subconsciously shitting her pants at the thought of taking a radical beam, and that some metal beams were able to damage her given enough force. No shot he's not piecing her up like butter with his light saber.
Why are people still so hung up on this steel beam nonsense

Steel beams can hurt anyone with enough force.

Emeth was able to damage Warcury and break his tusk while G5 Luffy couldn’t even with haki.
 
#33
Why are people still so hung up on this steel beam nonsense

Steel beams can hurt anyone with enough force.

Emeth was able to damage Warcury and break his tusk while G5 Luffy couldn’t even with haki.
The steel beams didn't even hurt her. She just got trapped under them for a few seconds.
Also I like how people like ZenZu can sit there and rag on BM for having bad durability and speed and call her a high tier but Issho is a top tier even though he has similar problems (he's literally just a normal human so his durability will be shit without Armament)
 
#36
of course he did, there is not a single scenario where either Kaido, Big Mom or both don't completely dogpile Kizaru and probably turn him into a homie.

He didn't just lose to G5 he got shit diffed by G5 which is Luffy's yonko form.
 
#37
kizaru lucky luffy isn’t the type to stomp on his opponents while they’re down knowing he could’ve followed kizaru to the ship n finished him right then n there
That wouldn’t happen if Kizaru killed Luffy while he was lying helpless on the ground begging for food. Don’t forget that Luffy needed help to even get up…not to mention Kizaru focusing on Vegapunk so that Luffy could grab him from behind as well.
Relying on luck has always been Luffy’s lot in life.
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The steel beams didn't even hurt her. She just got trapped under them for a few seconds.
Also I like how people like ZenZu can sit there and rag on BM for having bad durability and speed and call her a high tier but Issho is a top tier even though he has similar problems (he's literally just a normal human so his durability will be shit without Armament)
She sacrificed a year of her life to power up after getting hit by those steel beams. That would be a pretty odd response if they didn’t actually hurt her.
 
#38
It depends on what Kizaru's goal was. Kizaru can't defeat/put BM down let alone fighting Kaido and BM together.

Kizaru is heavily lacking in AP department.

Kizaru's only win is to arrive at the time when BM climbing wano's waterfall and kick the ship like King/Marco did.
 
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