Questions & Mysteries Did Akainu save Kizaru ?

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If by that he meant intercepting BM's ship, it was possible.

But if he wanted to go to Wano and fight both BM and Kaido, then he was delusional.

Kaido alone would low diff his ass. Kizaru was one shoted by half serious goofy Nika, a serious Kaido would fuck him up with just a few attacks.
 
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BlackLegFring

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Luffy is the mc said:
If by that he meant intercepting BM's ship, it was possible.

But if he wanted to go to Wano and fight both BM and Kaido, then he was delusional.

Kaido alone would low diff his ass. Kizaru was one shoted by half serious goofy Nika, a serious Kaido would fuck him up with just a few attacks.
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What is this revisionism? Kaido powered up to fight base Luffy. He said with his own words that Luffy could go toe-to-toe with him. Kizaru casually dealt with an amped up version of said Luffy. He had Nika huffing and panting from the effort of fighting him, and so badly depleted that he had to be begging for food lying helpless on the ground.

Kaido would have the fight of his life on his hands, and it’s best to be merciful to Big Mom as Oda has abused her enough…
 
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BlackLegFring said:
That wouldn’t happen if Kizaru killed Luffy while he was lying helpless on the ground begging for food. Don’t forget that Luffy needed help to even get up…not to mention Kizaru focusing on Vegapunk so that Luffy could grab him from behind as well.
Relying on luck has always been Luffy’s lot in life.
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She sacrificed a year of her life to power up after getting hit by those steel beams. That would be a pretty odd response if they didn’t actually hurt her.
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It's because of Law using Shock Wille. She even said she hadn't been hurt in decades which is why she amped her self, Law hurting her was the catalyst to her decision to power up, not Kidd dropping a bunch of beams on her (those beams definitely aren't more powerful than Brook who literally charged at her and stabbed her right in her stomach and did nothing).
 
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BlackLegFring said:
What is this revisionism? Kaido powered up to fight base Luffy. He said with his own words that Luffy could go toe-to-toe with him. Kizaru casually dealt with an amped up version of said Luffy. He had Nika huffing and panting from the effort of fighting him, and so badly depleted that he had to be begging for food lying helpless on the ground.

Kaido would have the fight of his life on his hands, and it’s best to be merciful to Big Mom as Oda has abused her enough…
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Clown Nika didn't use adv CoC to deal with Kizaru. The moment he did, Kizaru took a nap.

One Thunder Bagua would have him dancing like a girl in love during prom night.

I said it and will say it again, Kaido low diffs Kizaru based on feats. Kaido low diffs any admiral.
 
BlackLegFring

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Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier said:
It's because of Law using Shock Wille. She even said she hadn't been hurt in decades which is why she amped her self, Law hurting her was the catalyst to her decision to power up, not Kidd dropping a bunch of beams on her (those beams definitely aren't more powerful than Brook who literally charged at her and stabbed her right in her stomach and did nothing).
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That doesn’t follow. You can try and exclude Kid all you want, but Oda was clearly portraying him & Law as a duo. If Kid was doing nothing then he would have just been ignored, but she kept referring to both of them.
 
park_min young

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Luffy is the mc said:
Clown Nika didn't use adv CoC to deal with Kizaru. The moment he did, Kizaru took a nap.

One Thunder Bagua would have him dancing like a girl in love during prom night.

I said it and will say it again, Kaido low diffs Kizaru based on feats. Kaido low diffs any admiral.
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Superficial damage, it was just a stun. Kizaru looked like he just got out of the shower after Luffy’s honey punches. Even now, he’s clearly just mentally exhausted and stood down after killing VP.
 
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park_min young said:
Superficial damage, it was just a stun. Kizaru looked like he just got out of the shower after Luffy’s honey punches. Even now, he’s clearly just mentally exhausted and stood down after killing VP.
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Moves like Star Gun don't leave a lot of external marks, it's mostly damaging on the inside.
BlackLegFring said:
That doesn’t follow. You can try and exclude Kid all you want, but Oda was clearly portraying him & Law as a duo. If Kid was doing nothing then he would have just been ignored, but she kept referring to both of them.
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I'm not saying Kidd did nothing, but his beams definitely did nothing besides trap her for a second.
 
BlackLegFring

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Luffy is the mc said:
Clown Nika didn't use adv CoC to deal with Kizaru. The moment he did, Kizaru took a nap.

One Thunder Bagua would have him dancing like a girl in love during prom night.

I said it and will say it again, Kaido low diffs Kizaru based on feats. Kaido low diffs any admiral.
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And Kizaru wasn’t shown using Haki either, so it’s just back to square one. Trying to pretend that Luffy’s attack wasn’t the 2nd most powerful we’ve seen from him is also pointless. It just shows the lengths that Luffy had to go after a tiring battle to even momentarily knock Kizaru down. It then left him helpless on the ground begging for food while Kizaru was up and kicking his crewmates afterwards.

Optimistic to think a Thunder Bagua is touching him when base Luffy could mostly dodge those. Kizaru on the other hand completely shut out Snakeman Luffy. Kaido couldn’t even track Snakeman’s attacks without using future sight.

Kaido couldn’t even low diff Yamato. Again, he had to power up to deal with just base Luffy. Trying to act ignorant won’t help you. This is all old news by now.
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Moves like Star Gun don't leave a lot of external marks, it's mostly damaging on the inside.

I'm not saying Kidd did nothing, but his beams definitely did nothing besides trap her for a second.
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The steel beams were the only thing he hit her with before she powered up and said she’d face both of them.
It simply follows that it did enough damage to get her to sacrifice lifespan, not just merely trapped her.
Kid even breaks her arm later with his steel bull, so throwing metal at her with sufficient force does seem to rack up damage.
 
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Finalbeta

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Depends

He would have likely soloed the Big Mom pirates making the alliance weaker

Against the Beast Pirates he would have been overwhelmed though
 
Djordje

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Nah Akainu inaction made beast and big mom pirates alliance possible, it made beast pirates stronger for Straw hats ,Hearth pirate alliance.

If Kizaru acted alliance would have way easier time dealing with beast pirates.Kaido would be beaten without even need for Luffy to awaken G5 .Rooftop 5 would be too much for Crydo alone.
 
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He was only going to go there as a deterrent. Kaido didn’t want to start a war to begin with, stacking Kizaru on top of that would likely force BM to retreat
 
Marco

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I dont think Kizaru is dumb enough to fight 2 Yonkos same time, he probably wanted to fight BM before she reached Wano. And with no Katakuri to bail her out he probably sinks her ship
 
Dcbluffy

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the samurai also had the fleet admiral scared 😂 that’s crazy
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Marco said:
I dont think Kizaru is dumb enough to fight 2 Yonkos same time, he probably wanted to fight BM before she reached Wano. And with no Katakuri to bail her out he probably sinks her ship
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kizaru knocking big mom crew off the ship is possible but I’d think they wouldn’t underestimate an admiral n would b more prepared
 
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