Didn't the UK elect a leftist party ?
Ugh ->

Britain turned red but still neo-liberal, pro-Brexit, anti-migrant and transphobic and so on.

From the marxist Jeremy Corbyn to the center-left Keir Starmer.

I'm somewhat curious though. As the election is described as historical with more than 400 MPs for the Labour.
Keir Starmer centered the party and brought it to the right so much that the Tories will probably have to go even more right-wing to appeal to voters.
 
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Foul Legacy

Who tf summoned me here again.
:pepeanger::pepeanger:

Also.
You can try whatever Mental maneuver you can , you can't change my mind.

You stated me selling drugs has very problematic conclusions.

But Porns/OnlyFans/Sex Workers are way worse. I have seen men waste their whole fuckin potential.
All of these are no form of woman encouragement or Even feminism , People who addicted to these kind of things are more likely to aggresive towards women.

You links are useless blud. I'm reading some article by some clowns overseas.
I can see what is happening right now.

First of all this is no form work to even begin with.
Earning hard earned money and respect is totally different from Easy way out.

I'll give an example , Me and classmate (used to be) , she left college 3 months ago. Why? Because she got into Sex work and industry.
Judt so you know she is Rich af to even start with.
Problem she thought it wasn't enough.
She earns more than me and my teachers and the whole fuckin faculty combined in a month.

Her own parents disowned her , She was in relationship and the guy dumped her.
She is nothing more than miserable at the moment but just rich af.

These kind of work ruins , individual , Family , Society and even sometimes at a nation scale as well.

No matter what you explain or say to me , I can't bring myself to respect sex workers.

So don't bother replying to this.
 
Didn't the UK just elect a leftist party ?
They aint left. And I fear they'll be a bigger cancer than the conservatives. I prefer the devil I know to a crony snake like Starmer.
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The UK has been fucked for a while now. Why do you think it got so deep recently ?
Both sides are essentially the same, but I don't trust Starmer. As someone who was fucked with by sociopaths as a kid, there is something about him that sets off an alarm in my brain. I don't know what it is, but I cannot trust a single word that guy says. Don't get me wrong, I wasn't a fan of Rishi either - but I don't know man... I just have a strange feeling it will get worse.
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What is your country ?
England.
 
I’m not specifically referring to you. You gotta admit some of the dudes that be hating on sex workers and sometimes just women in general the most be some of the highest consumers of it. People like that are just straight up incel losers. This being an online weeb forum there are definitely some here
I generally agree but the likes of Foul Legacy didn't really say that much wrong stuff.

When it comes to respect, I'd rather respect someone who is doing hard physical labor jobs to earn money for college, learns on a daily basis for the exams, tries to make projects in free-time, looks out for internships, etc. instead of people who are selling foot or dick pics online. I'm doing physical labor jobs as part time besides college and it sometimes can be quite hard, especially if you do overtime.

I think we can all agree people that get forced into sex work or slavery or other bad things are bad
It’s 100% respectable and more than fine not to like things like online or real life sex work. Tho I don’t think it’s right to respect a person man or woman less for doing it tbh cause like most people they are more than just the one aspect of them. Tho obviously I’m not gonna force you to like it or them cause that’s weird lol. At the end of the day you do you as long as you not going out of your way to hurt people
And even if you were hurting people ain’t shit i could do either way lol. I don’t know how internet crime or confessions works tbh
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As for the coworker thing I would have less respect and be more upset at the boss than my coworker. If they felt they were forced to do it in order to move up even worse obviously on the boss. If they didn’t feel forced to it’s still fuck the boss imo (not literally in my case unless…😏). Joking … kinda cause if I’m being honest if my boss a 10/10 in looks and personality I can’t promise I’d refuse the offer
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Also petty but it also just depends how much I fuck with the coworker assuming they didn’t feel forced. If I hated them before I’d probably hate them more. If I fucked with them before ima still fuck with them after but that’s just me
Ofc, that's self-explanatory. That's why I can't respect jobs in which people even get forced to do such things.

I mean, it pretty much tells that you don't value your body and dignity enough, for which you sell it online for money and millions of people masturbate to it. Same way how I wouldn't give respect to heavily obese people. Should I pretend and say "Oh man, very good! You're 400 pounds and you daily shove 10 burgers in your stomach! I'm proud!". I know you don't say that but I just mean it in general. I wouldn't destroy a friendship over it but would I say I'm proud of this person selling "their stuff" online? It would just make me dishonest. A romantic relationship is outta the window, any self-respecting human wouldn't be in a relationship with sexual workers. As I said, as long as they're not hurting people and as long as they're sincere, it's their thing to do, yk. I even agree with you on that.

No, in this hypothetical situation, both parties gave consent. No part was being forced, otherwise I'd contradict myself if I said forced sex workers get no "blame" but not someone who got into a higher position while being forced. And yes, boss would still be a huge scumbag but that particular person sure wouldn't get praise from me because that person chose the "easier way" instead of being chosen due to their competence and work performance.

Nah I can 100% agree with this
It’s a market people are willing to spend dumb money on and if you aren’t going out of your way to hurt people I say make your money.
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The people wasting insane amounts of money on it are bigger losers and less respectable than the people acting doing the work lol. Even then it most the time just comes down to how much you indulge yourself
  • You can be relatively normal and go to a strip club every now and then
  • Some places paying for sex a couple times is deadass just normal lol
  • Even people that pay for porn probably ain’t all that bad lol. There’s definitely a bunch we probably know in real life that just don’t admit they do
    • Bring it back to nerdy shit maybe they view it the same way people buy official manga and merchandise do lol. They can get it for free but they like supporting their favorite creator 🧠
That's why I have no pity to all the OF simps.
Like, they decide to waste their money to get some nude pics, so why should I feel pity towards them? Because they are lonely? Come on...

Yes, going to brothels is quite normalised, it was always like this. As you said, it depends how much someone gets ingulfed into it but at least, the customers get laid by paying. Meanwhile OF consumers are just really sad existences.

Its not for you to say that they don't respect themself. If you want to have this conversation > Political thread. Here its not an option. Respect sex workers.
You're not respecting your body if you sell your private parts online. I mean, some really made a great profit out of it. The majority isn't that lucky with their OF and imagine selling nudes for a few bucks or so... So respecting yourself with that "profession" is an oxymoron.

Bold: For someone, who tries his best at protecting the sex worker's dignity, you sure don't respect my opinion about it. You don't have to tell people what they should respect or not. I don't hurt anyone with it and there is a good reason sex workers would struggle more to have secure relationship than the average person (I hope I don't have to explain the reason to you lol). I don't even hate on them, as I said, I'm apathetic to it.

It just irked me when you told to respect sex workers because... why? If you want to derail this topic to the politic thread, why did you even start to write this nonsense in the first place? I'm also not interested to debate with you about it further. You're way too biased, Logiko.
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Sanji is very respected in the Manga aside from his simpness and sexism. Its one of the strawhats with the most narrative depths. Really. Oda loves Sanji, it irradiates from the story.
Nami and Chopper wouldn't hit Sanji if he had good intentions lol...
 
Keir Starmer centered the party and brought it to the right so much that the Tories will probably have to go even more right-wing to appeal to voters.
Yeah, nevermind what I just said... I'm lost on international politics nowadays.

You can try whatever Mental maneuver you can , you can't change my mind.
That's not what a rational person would say


You stated me selling drugs has very problematic conclusions.

But Porns/OnlyFans/Sex Workers are way worse. I have seen men waste their whole fuckin potential.
Poor men.




All of these are no form of woman encouragement or Even feminism
Its not about encouragement.

Its about the respect of women's choice to do what they want with their body.

If you can't respect that, you are not a respectfull person, period.


People who addicted to these kind of things are more likely to aggresive towards women.
Sources ?


I can see what is happening right now.
I don't think so no lol


First of all this is no form work to even begin with.
Yes, it is. Try doing the same thing for 5 month and tell me its not work then we might have a talk.


Earning hard earned money and respect is totally different from Easy way out.
There is no easy way out. If you think onlyfan is easy, then you don't know sh*t about the subject.


I'll give an example , Me and classmate (used to be) , she left college 3 months ago. Why? Because she got into Sex work and industry.
Judt so you know she is Rich af to even start with.
Problem she thought it wasn't enough.
She earns more than me and my teachers and the whole fuckin faculty combined in a month.
Queen


Her own parents disowned her , She was in relationship and the guy dumped her.
She is nothing more than miserable at the moment but just rich af.
Bad parents, bad boyfriend, next. She deserves better and a better and a better friend :)


These kind of work ruins , individual , Family , Society and even sometimes at a nation scale as well.
It can, yes, in certain conditions. That's why the rights of sex workers needs to be foughts for. But beside that, it only ruins the mind of those with very a reactionnary brain, so... not a big loss.


No matter what you explain or say to me , I can't bring myself to respect sex workers.

So don't bother replying to this.
Stay ignorant then
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hey aint left. And I fear they'll be a bigger cancer than the conservatives. I prefer the devil I know to a crony snake like Starmer.
I really don't know how a soft left can be worst than conservative and reactionnaries ....

But you are right, they are not really leftists.

Meaculpa


I dont have to respect something i dont find respectful.
Yes, you have. If you want to live in society.

Either that or you live in the desert all alone.

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okay? does that change the fact that he wanted to buy a female slave and they thought it was so bad they completely removed it from the anime?
I think the anime did the same missinterpretation as you guys.

You're not respecting your body if you sell your private parts online
Why ?

You could say the complete opposite, you could say that showing how good your body look is a way to show how pride your are of it.


I mean, some really made a great profit out of it.
A very, very, very, very small % of people.


So respecting yourself with that "profession" is an oxymoron.
Again, why ?

Bold: For someone, who tries his best at protecting the sex worker's dignity, you sure don't respect my opinion about it.
Logical. If you consider that sex workers are not respectable, there is no reason why I should respect you.

I don't know why I should respect someone that consider that some people are not respectable just because they are doing their work.


You don't have to tell people what they should respect or not.
If you lived on your own in the desert, no, indeed.

But you live in a society, and if we want everyone to live happily, we have to respect ourself when there is no reason to be disrespectful.

I don't hurt anyone with it
Words are weapons, never forget that.


It just irked me when you told to respect sex workers because... why?
Why should I respect a barman ? Because there is no reason to disrespect them and if I do not do that, I risk creating unvolontary tensions. So why do you do it with sex workers ?


You're way too biased, Logiko.
I think I'm the most openminded on the question here, thanks.


Nami and Chopper wouldn't hit Sanji if he had good intentions lol...
Simpness isn't really a good intention...
 
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