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And ? There is absolutely no rational reason that say that showing a private part of a body is a problem for society. This comes from only one place : religion.
SOme people are proud of their body. I see no reason to bodyshame them.
THat's what you get wrong.
A person showing you their body is not yours (that rape culture). And it doesn't mean that she is less valuable. Its not up to you to say what is valuable and what is not.
Let me give you a spoiler, the depression doesn't come from doing the job, the dpression comes from the reception. Meaning the depression with the sex workers is the result of behaviors like yours who feel entitled to disrespect them you incel.
Again, the problem is not celebrity, its the disrespect.
I'm not advocating for this profession, I would prefer for people to be paid more. I'm advocating for the RESPECTING THE CHOICE of people who choose to do what they want with their body.
It makes perfect sence as long as you understand that respect is important in life.
People do what they want, its not your place to judge them. Those people are hurting noone so be respectfull.
No what you said is "I don't respect sexwork because showing bodypart is not respectfull", you didn't explain why showing body parts isn't respectfull with rationnal arguments.
That girl was a queen not because of sex work but because she followed what she wanted to do without listening to toxic people.
You are really not helping yourself here Einstein...
Its means that if you want to live in society and be respected, be respectfull of people who are not hurting you in any way.
YOU TRY to normalize incel stuff. I'm just taking you back to reality where respect is a primordial notion.
You are the bad duck here, not me dear incel.
Who is adam22 and what are you talking about ?
Yes you do. By explaining that we should not respect sex worker, you are normalizing the oppression against that category of people and the harassment they are already facing.
Again, words have power.
Then, don't live in society or don't expect to be respected.
There are no such thing as "low value jobs"
Again, not a rationnal argument.
I don't think showing your body part when you want them to be is shamefull, so I don't know what you are talking about here.
Parents who disown their kids because of their job are very bad parents. Period.
Morality is relative. Bad argument.
Of course.
I'm not the one showing hatred here mate.
Openmindness doesn't mean that we should be respectfull of intolerant people bra
You have a twisted mind...
SOme people are proud of their body. I see no reason to bodyshame them.
THat's what you get wrong.
A person showing you their body is not yours (that rape culture). And it doesn't mean that she is less valuable. Its not up to you to say what is valuable and what is not.
Let me give you a spoiler, the depression doesn't come from doing the job, the dpression comes from the reception. Meaning the depression with the sex workers is the result of behaviors like yours who feel entitled to disrespect them you incel.
Again, the problem is not celebrity, its the disrespect.
I'm not advocating for this profession, I would prefer for people to be paid more. I'm advocating for the RESPECTING THE CHOICE of people who choose to do what they want with their body.
It makes perfect sence as long as you understand that respect is important in life.
People do what they want, its not your place to judge them. Those people are hurting noone so be respectfull.
No what you said is "I don't respect sexwork because showing bodypart is not respectfull", you didn't explain why showing body parts isn't respectfull with rationnal arguments.
That girl was a queen not because of sex work but because she followed what she wanted to do without listening to toxic people.
You are really not helping yourself here Einstein...
Its means that if you want to live in society and be respected, be respectfull of people who are not hurting you in any way.
YOU TRY to normalize incel stuff. I'm just taking you back to reality where respect is a primordial notion.
You are the bad duck here, not me dear incel.
Who is adam22 and what are you talking about ?
Yes you do. By explaining that we should not respect sex worker, you are normalizing the oppression against that category of people and the harassment they are already facing.
Again, words have power.
Then, don't live in society or don't expect to be respected.
There are no such thing as "low value jobs"
Again, not a rationnal argument.
I don't think showing your body part when you want them to be is shamefull, so I don't know what you are talking about here.
Parents who disown their kids because of their job are very bad parents. Period.
Morality is relative. Bad argument.
Of course.
I'm not the one showing hatred here mate.
Openmindness doesn't mean that we should be respectfull of intolerant people bra
You have a twisted mind...
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Oh boi.. I think I have found the evolution of Bob here..
Its an electrik type
Talking about first degree here...
If there was no consent then this must be brought in front of justice and the rapist must be put in jail. Simple
We are not talking about porn here, its illegal stuff. (I do not know what you are talking about)
Porn addict ? Me ? Nah, I can't stop tomorrow if I want
Its an electrik type
Talking about first degree here...
If there was no consent then this must be brought in front of justice and the rapist must be put in jail. Simple
We are not talking about porn here, its illegal stuff. (I do not know what you are talking about)
Porn addict ? Me ? Nah, I can't stop tomorrow if I want
It would not be the first time the anim messes up
I'll make this forum my territory hehehe
The rot from the political thread is feasting and spreading to other threads... there is no hope... WG is slowly dying and rotting from the inside... maybe it is the time we give WG the emporers mercy... death 
My last post to this shit topic:
Well, you have no problem with it but as I brought up my arguments here, this is simply not the case.
There's no use feigning ignorance over it.
Lol, you portray this like only religious people give a fuck to it.
I have many non religious friends who have a similar stance like me.
So?
Your pictures are exposed, everyone can see it, masturbate to it or to mock you. You are just on high copium if you believe they are showing all their private parts because they are proud of their bodies, otherwise there wouldn't be many who are depressed af, lol.
??????????????????
You're spouting some random nonsense.
It's the fact their private parts actually know no privacy, once again their private parts are exposed to the internet forever, they struggle to make relationships, it's hard to find romantic partners because not every guy is a cuck like you (I don't even have to ask you, if you advocate for them so much, I'm sure you wouldn't even mind dating them since nothing of that is shameful or morally questionable to begin with) who dates someone who does OF or is a prostitute. The reception will be always there, there is a reason why sex worker jobs is rather controversial.
It's funny how you say I'm an incel when I'm the one with a job, having a social circle, an education and a gf while you're just a jobless bum writing essays of essays in a forum which you apparently don't even like. How about, instead of telling people to respect certain jobs, you look out for a job yourself?
No shit.
Cool, so?
You're obviously malding with madness for failing to convince me otherwise, that's why you're starting to namecall me stuff.
Again, I don't respect this kind of job because it does not allign with my moral values. It doesn't mean I don't accept them as people.
Yeah, just like I said to albino:
Secondly, I don't hate sex workers, it's their own lives and they are mature enough to know what is best to them. It's their own responsibility - as I said, it's a different story if people get forced to sell their bodies.
However, I don't have to respect it. They are selling their own bodies after all. I'm apathetic to it and I hold the view that every person can do whatever they want as long as it's not illegal. Yet, I have my own beliefs and I don't have to respect everything...
That's my stance to it.
Lol, did I tell you they shouldn't do it? Again, I said everybody can do whatever they want as long as they're not hurting others or their activities being legal but do I have to show respect to it? I don't think so and you don't have a say to it as well.
I brought way more arguments than that stuff you're nitpicking, lol.
According to Foul Legacy, she was already rich af but wanted to earn even more money.
Your response to it: "queen".
Forget sex workers, I can't even respect you lol. Actually, I respect sex workers more than people like you.
I'm treating people respectfully as long as they are respectful.
It is different if I do not respect "odd" jobs and blatantly being disrespectful to that person.
Incels are woman-hating losers who can't get a single girl.
I criticised sex workers in general or rather, I show my lack of respect clearly to these kind of jobs.
It seems you are just dropping some random buzzwords around, lmao. Idk on which planet you live but it's a fact that sex workers do not have a good reputation in society, that's why they get rejected by many people. Are they all incels? Even fellow woman who don't appeal to these kind of jobs? Imagine kids proudly telling about their parents profession:
Kid 1: "My dad is a software developer"
Kid 2: "My mom is an engineer"
Kid 3: "My mom's doing OF!"
Dude, kids get bullied over it. That's the reality. Prejudice will be always there and well, what should I say? These people knew what being a sex worker means and if they willingly do this, why should I be mad about the fact that they're getting rejections?
Afaik, adam22 was someone who did porn with his wife until he decided to let some dude doing porn with his wife.
It's an understatement that he got roasted on the internet and on various shows.
I said, I don't respect sex workers and I gave my reasons to it, whatever you do, Idegf.
You can respect them, date them, waste your money on nudes, it's your thing.
Listen, I don't respect their work but I wouldn't harass them over it. I wouldn't even say a thing to it if you weren't shouting your "totally-non-biased" opinion to respect them, no, that people should respect OF and these kind of jobs. Why you always gotta bring politics in OP threads? This was about Sanji apparently buying a slave and you somehow made it political again, lol.
Uff, this sure hurt my feelings that a random stranger on the internet won't respect me.
Aight.
Lol...
Logiko, is he disrespecting his own body for doing some drinks? Yes or no? There is just one logical conclusion.
Um, what?
You're completely delulu. So you're telling me it's usually not shameful for someone if their private parts either get leaked in the internet and everyone can see it? It wouldn't be shameful if your dick pic is suddenly hanging on the company board?
I'm just talking about nudes btw. Then there's actual sexual content where everyone can see, your parents, your friends, your potential partner, your potential kids, you screwing some randoms...
Yeah, their job in question is being an "OF content creator". Although, disowning them is quite harsh but I get why parents get mentally scarred like that. You're trying to bring them moral values as much as possible to raise your children to be good successful people and the last thing you wanna see them is them doing some shady stuff or ending up as strippers.
Alright, so it's morally okay if you defend criminals knowing they are criminals because you're getting paid?
There's morality when you appear like a beggar in a high quality michelin star restaurant begging people for some cash although you would have all the money and time to care for basic hygiene and appearance?
There's morality if you film giving homeless people merely for clout and earning more money?
So you're respecting lawyers who would defend a sex offender bcoz of money? Do I understand this right?
Heck, unlike sex workers, I actually even hate lawyers like that.
Lol, alright dude.
You're demanding, get immediately rude and passively aggressive when someone doesn't agree with your moral values and you immediately drop some buzzwords.
Logiko, from what I've read from you so far, you're everything but open minded. I also had a conversation with albino and it went way more civil than ours. Do you guess why?
We all know how you lost your shit in the "Carrot for nakama" thread - something which came out to be wrong after all.
Sure...
Well, you have no problem with it but as I brought up my arguments here, this is simply not the case.
There's no use feigning ignorance over it.
Lol, you portray this like only religious people give a fuck to it.
I have many non religious friends who have a similar stance like me.
So?
Your pictures are exposed, everyone can see it, masturbate to it or to mock you. You are just on high copium if you believe they are showing all their private parts because they are proud of their bodies, otherwise there wouldn't be many who are depressed af, lol.
??????????????????
You're spouting some random nonsense.
It's the fact their private parts actually know no privacy, once again their private parts are exposed to the internet forever, they struggle to make relationships, it's hard to find romantic partners because not every guy is a cuck like you (I don't even have to ask you, if you advocate for them so much, I'm sure you wouldn't even mind dating them since nothing of that is shameful or morally questionable to begin with) who dates someone who does OF or is a prostitute. The reception will be always there, there is a reason why sex worker jobs is rather controversial.
It's funny how you say I'm an incel when I'm the one with a job, having a social circle, an education and a gf while you're just a jobless bum writing essays of essays in a forum which you apparently don't even like. How about, instead of telling people to respect certain jobs, you look out for a job yourself?
No shit.
Cool, so?
You're obviously malding with madness for failing to convince me otherwise, that's why you're starting to namecall me stuff.
Again, I don't respect this kind of job because it does not allign with my moral values. It doesn't mean I don't accept them as people.
Yeah, just like I said to albino:
Secondly, I don't hate sex workers, it's their own lives and they are mature enough to know what is best to them. It's their own responsibility - as I said, it's a different story if people get forced to sell their bodies.
However, I don't have to respect it. They are selling their own bodies after all. I'm apathetic to it and I hold the view that every person can do whatever they want as long as it's not illegal. Yet, I have my own beliefs and I don't have to respect everything...
That's my stance to it.
Lol, did I tell you they shouldn't do it? Again, I said everybody can do whatever they want as long as they're not hurting others or their activities being legal but do I have to show respect to it? I don't think so and you don't have a say to it as well.
I brought way more arguments than that stuff you're nitpicking, lol.
According to Foul Legacy, she was already rich af but wanted to earn even more money.
Your response to it: "queen".
Forget sex workers, I can't even respect you lol. Actually, I respect sex workers more than people like you.
I'm treating people respectfully as long as they are respectful.
It is different if I do not respect "odd" jobs and blatantly being disrespectful to that person.
Incels are woman-hating losers who can't get a single girl.
I criticised sex workers in general or rather, I show my lack of respect clearly to these kind of jobs.
It seems you are just dropping some random buzzwords around, lmao. Idk on which planet you live but it's a fact that sex workers do not have a good reputation in society, that's why they get rejected by many people. Are they all incels? Even fellow woman who don't appeal to these kind of jobs? Imagine kids proudly telling about their parents profession:
Kid 1: "My dad is a software developer"
Kid 2: "My mom is an engineer"
Kid 3: "My mom's doing OF!"
Dude, kids get bullied over it. That's the reality. Prejudice will be always there and well, what should I say? These people knew what being a sex worker means and if they willingly do this, why should I be mad about the fact that they're getting rejections?
Afaik, adam22 was someone who did porn with his wife until he decided to let some dude doing porn with his wife.
It's an understatement that he got roasted on the internet and on various shows.
I said, I don't respect sex workers and I gave my reasons to it, whatever you do, Idegf.
You can respect them, date them, waste your money on nudes, it's your thing.
Listen, I don't respect their work but I wouldn't harass them over it. I wouldn't even say a thing to it if you weren't shouting your "totally-non-biased" opinion to respect them, no, that people should respect OF and these kind of jobs. Why you always gotta bring politics in OP threads? This was about Sanji apparently buying a slave and you somehow made it political again, lol.
Uff, this sure hurt my feelings that a random stranger on the internet won't respect me.
Aight.
Lol...
Logiko, is he disrespecting his own body for doing some drinks? Yes or no? There is just one logical conclusion.
Um, what?
You're completely delulu. So you're telling me it's usually not shameful for someone if their private parts either get leaked in the internet and everyone can see it? It wouldn't be shameful if your dick pic is suddenly hanging on the company board?
I'm just talking about nudes btw. Then there's actual sexual content where everyone can see, your parents, your friends, your potential partner, your potential kids, you screwing some randoms...
Yeah, their job in question is being an "OF content creator". Although, disowning them is quite harsh but I get why parents get mentally scarred like that. You're trying to bring them moral values as much as possible to raise your children to be good successful people and the last thing you wanna see them is them doing some shady stuff or ending up as strippers.
Alright, so it's morally okay if you defend criminals knowing they are criminals because you're getting paid?
There's morality when you appear like a beggar in a high quality michelin star restaurant begging people for some cash although you would have all the money and time to care for basic hygiene and appearance?
There's morality if you film giving homeless people merely for clout and earning more money?
So you're respecting lawyers who would defend a sex offender bcoz of money? Do I understand this right?
Heck, unlike sex workers, I actually even hate lawyers like that.
Lol, alright dude.
You're demanding, get immediately rude and passively aggressive when someone doesn't agree with your moral values and you immediately drop some buzzwords.
Logiko, from what I've read from you so far, you're everything but open minded. I also had a conversation with albino and it went way more civil than ours. Do you guess why?
We all know how you lost your shit in the "Carrot for nakama" thread - something which came out to be wrong after all.
Sure...
Kill all drug users and cleanse the country That's a sin. Sex is for reproduction only.
You know that Sanji wouldn't have treated her as a sex slave 🙄 he'd have rescued her and then kissed the ground before her like he does with Nami & Robin
OF consumers may do it because they are lonely or developed a parasocial relationship with the creator. They need mental help, not shaming. Why are you so judgemental?
Still #2 after Goofy God Nika
You know that Sanji wouldn't have treated her as a sex slave 🙄 he'd have rescued her and then kissed the ground before her like he does with Nami & Robin
OF consumers may do it because they are lonely or developed a parasocial relationship with the creator. They need mental help, not shaming. Why are you so judgemental?
Still #2 after Goofy God Nika
Nothing to to with ego, I'm just simply reading the panel and not overanalysing it
I hope so yeah
You still haven't given me a clear rationnal argument yet...
Religion influenced culture. So when you here "this is immoral" when talking about people showing their body, its mostly due to a religious influence, not a rationnal argument.
If you consent to put them on the internet, what's the problem ?
Again, no rationnal argument.
Again, depression is mainly due to people with your behavior, not because of the activity itself.
their body*
I don't think so no. Most people are not incels like you mate. I would have no problem dating or being friend with someone who does sex work. It guys like you who are simply intolerant.
Wow, talking about toxic masculinity.. lol
Contrary to you, I'm respectfull of people and I do not question women who want to do what they want with their body
People with open minds
Yes, its called sexism and patriarchy
Incel has nothing to do with your professionnal situation. It has to do with your ideology.
Courage to your partner.
Because everything is political.
Stories are political
And this subject is political
Politic was present on this forum long before I came here. I'm only shading a light over it.
You don't know me very well, do ya?
Do the same
I'm not trying to convince you. I'm bored, frustrated and I need a political distraction right now. You are the perfect subject.
"they are not respectable" > Not accepting them as legitimate working people. Simple
Yup. Your stance is disrespect. I got that.
I used a shortcut. You are not the first with the argumentation, I know exactly what you think.
Yup, Queen.
There is nothing wrong with making a bit more money with something a little bit spicy.
Well, that's a positive evolution
And there is nothing disrespectfull to you in being a sex worker. So you have no reason to be disrespectfull.
No lol
Which is one of the arguments of incels
INdeed. Because of people like you.
Again, the problem is not the activity.
The problem is the reception.
The problem do not come from sex workers but the people who bullies. Don't invert the responsability here.
Women know that when they put a short dress, they will get harassed. Do this mean that they have to stop doing it ? What is the rationnal reason behind that.
Stop blaming the victims, blame the bullies.
Was this relationship a consent thing ? Was he aware ? Was he Ok with it ?
If so, there is absolutely no rationnal reasons to bully him because he let his wife have fun with someone else.
Yeah, its just normal, I will not applaud you for this. This would be a justice thing if you did...
Because the point of this thread is that Sanji support prostitution. Like if sex worker should be shamed.
I didn't not bring politic here, this thread WAS political.
If you manage to tell me with rationnal word why showing your nude body is immoral, then you might win the jackpot with me.
But the bodyshaming and overall shaming of sexworker is based on nothing but "showing your sex is disrespecting your body".. without EVER telling why with rationnal argument.
The reality is, there are none.
I think you have reading issues. I told you showing your body WHEN YOU WANT TO (hence, when there is consent) is NOT shamefull.
Nah, I don't get that.
Those are very bad parents.
Everyone has the right of a defense. Its a human right.
what ?
Well, for me its immoral.
They are doing their job, so I see nothing wrong with that. Again, having a defense is a human right. No matter what you did.
I find it very odd that you are questionning that....
People like you will hide under "the right for an opinion" even tho you know very well that you are participating in the normalization of the hatred of sex workers.
So, no. I won't have any respect for you.
If you say so.
Lmao. That what people like you here don't get.
I
never
lose
my
sh*t
I'm always very in control of what I write. And I absolutely do not mind having intense discussions. If I'm disrespectfull to you, its not because I'm angry, its because you don't deserve my respect just yet.
Quite a bit yeah
I hope so yeah
You still haven't given me a clear rationnal argument yet...
Religion influenced culture. So when you here "this is immoral" when talking about people showing their body, its mostly due to a religious influence, not a rationnal argument.
If you consent to put them on the internet, what's the problem ?
Again, no rationnal argument.Again, depression is mainly due to people with your behavior, not because of the activity itself.
their body*
I don't think so no. Most people are not incels like you mate. I would have no problem dating or being friend with someone who does sex work. It guys like you who are simply intolerant.
Wow, talking about toxic masculinity.. lol
Contrary to you, I'm respectfull of people and I do not question women who want to do what they want with their body
People with open minds
Yes, its called sexism and patriarchy
Incel has nothing to do with your professionnal situation. It has to do with your ideology.
Courage to your partner.
Because everything is political.
Stories are political
And this subject is political
Politic was present on this forum long before I came here. I'm only shading a light over it.
You don't know me very well, do ya?
Do the same
I'm not trying to convince you. I'm bored, frustrated and I need a political distraction right now. You are the perfect subject.
"they are not respectable" > Not accepting them as legitimate working people. Simple
Yup. Your stance is disrespect. I got that.
I used a shortcut. You are not the first with the argumentation, I know exactly what you think.
Yup, Queen.
There is nothing wrong with making a bit more money with something a little bit spicy.
Well, that's a positive evolution
And there is nothing disrespectfull to you in being a sex worker. So you have no reason to be disrespectfull.
No lol
Which is one of the arguments of incels
INdeed. Because of people like you.
Again, the problem is not the activity.
The problem is the reception.
The problem do not come from sex workers but the people who bullies. Don't invert the responsability here.
Women know that when they put a short dress, they will get harassed. Do this mean that they have to stop doing it ? What is the rationnal reason behind that.
Stop blaming the victims, blame the bullies.
Was this relationship a consent thing ? Was he aware ? Was he Ok with it ?
If so, there is absolutely no rationnal reasons to bully him because he let his wife have fun with someone else.
Yeah, its just normal, I will not applaud you for this. This would be a justice thing if you did...
Because the point of this thread is that Sanji support prostitution. Like if sex worker should be shamed.
I didn't not bring politic here, this thread WAS political.
If you manage to tell me with rationnal word why showing your nude body is immoral, then you might win the jackpot with me.
But the bodyshaming and overall shaming of sexworker is based on nothing but "showing your sex is disrespecting your body".. without EVER telling why with rationnal argument.
The reality is, there are none.
I think you have reading issues. I told you showing your body WHEN YOU WANT TO (hence, when there is consent) is NOT shamefull.
Nah, I don't get that.
Those are very bad parents.
Everyone has the right of a defense. Its a human right.
what ?
Well, for me its immoral.
They are doing their job, so I see nothing wrong with that. Again, having a defense is a human right. No matter what you did.
I find it very odd that you are questionning that....
People like you will hide under "the right for an opinion" even tho you know very well that you are participating in the normalization of the hatred of sex workers.
So, no. I won't have any respect for you.
If you say so.
Lmao. That what people like you here don't get.
I
never
lose
my
sh*t
I'm always very in control of what I write. And I absolutely do not mind having intense discussions. If I'm disrespectfull to you, its not because I'm angry, its because you don't deserve my respect just yet.
Sure...
I'll ignore the rest of this post because I don't want to waste time writing essays about this anymore:
See, so you do have your moral standards. I could go on and yap about some stuff like "OF creators just use their fans for money" and so on and forth but that's not even my initial message since I have no pity to them anyway. So just as you clearly have your moral compass, I do have mine. For example, you believe every criminal has a right to defend themselves although they are definitely guilty. Again, it's their right but from the hypothetical situation which I brought up here, the lawyer already KNOWS this guy is guilty af, yet he's still defending him. So how is this morally acceptable?
So let me guess, I'm apparently an incel, far right, I deserve no respect and so on. Wow.
You're clearly blowing this stuff outta proportion lmao. See, that's why I didn't want to start a debate with you. It always ends with stupid shit like that.
See, so you do have your moral standards. I could go on and yap about some stuff like "OF creators just use their fans for money" and so on and forth but that's not even my initial message since I have no pity to them anyway. So just as you clearly have your moral compass, I do have mine. For example, you believe every criminal has a right to defend themselves although they are definitely guilty. Again, it's their right but from the hypothetical situation which I brought up here, the lawyer already KNOWS this guy is guilty af, yet he's still defending him. So how is this morally acceptable?
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Blame the far right
You're clearly blowing this stuff outta proportion lmao. See, that's why I didn't want to start a debate with you. It always ends with stupid shit like that.