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GB struggled against 7 injured retainers and amended beating only 2...the other 5 were only restrained

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Kaido fought fresh 9 retainers (Dukes using sulong forms even) and ended them all in 1 move each once he went back to human form
 

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Comeback when Oden and Yamato are YC level

Retainers got clowned as soon as he stopped fooling a bit
He didn't even need adcoc, hybrid and other forms to beat them
Just dragon form and base form while being casual
Oden was YC of WB pirate lmao

So, you say scabbards got done in the moment kaido got serious...

Same can be said for admirals - if they would have gotten serious, no YC would have stood a chance

Stop having double standards
 
We cant judge if they are bad fighters because non of them actually did any fighting.

Pumba has only been in his Zoan form charging people down.

Mars in his Zoan form firing his blast.

Ju Peter literally didnt fight shit lol.

Saturn doing mostly nothing except for when he fought the straw hats and then he forgot he can freeze people and explode their heads, even then he was mostly in his head talking to the other Gorosei about what to do with the broadcast and when hes had enough of the straw hats he blew them away and Robin had to catch them.

Only Ghandi really displayed some combat skill by blocking Zoro and clashing with him but thats about the extent of it.

Its too soon to say they are bad fighters lol.
We saw plenty lol, they are extremely sloppy fighters precisely because of their power/ hax
For the most part they’re easy targets without a stable form of fighting, besides Gandhi at least
 
Oden was YC of WB pirate lmao

So, you say scabbards got done in the moment kaido got serious...

Same can be said for admirals - if they would have gotten serious, no YC would have stood a chance

Stop having double standards
The Revolutionaries were literally attacking Mary Joie and the CDs why shouldnt they be serious lol. The fuck lol.
 
We saw plenty lol, they are extremely sloppy fighters precisely because of their power/ hax
For the most part they’re easy targets without a stable form of fighting, besides Gandhi at least
They are all Zoans and all of them stayed in their full Zoan form, Full Zoan form isnt the best form for fighting. That would be Hybrid.

So yeah its too soon to judge brother.
 
red roc is badass no doubt abt tht it hurt base kaido we’re talking abt fully awakened warcury n also wht I meant was luffy using acoc like against kaido the only one on egghead who possibly seen acoc luffy was kizaru n we saw what happened afterwards
AdCoC can bypass durability, but I don't it is as effective when pitted against high level hardening.

Haki vs haki is tricky. From what we've seen, if your haki is weaker than your opponents, then the damage mitigated is lessened. The one with the stronger haki prevails.

In all instances of AdCoC, that we've seen, it's alway combined with CoA. In theory, if someone is using next level hardening, they should be able to fend off an AdCoC attack, as that level of hardening should be much more difficult for CoC to penetrate and be as effective as it can be.

Luffy is gearing up to have maxed out haki come EoS. Acquiring next level hardening should be coming up pretty soon for him, as this is now the second time he's come across it.
 
We cant judge if they are bad fighters because non of them actually did any fighting.

Pumba has only been in his Zoan form charging people down.

Mars in his Zoan form firing his blast.

Ju Peter literally didnt fight shit lol.

Saturn doing mostly nothing except for when he fought the straw hats and then he forgot he can freeze people and explode their heads, even then he was mostly in his head talking to the other Gorosei about what to do with the broadcast and when hes had enough of the straw hats he blew them away and Robin had to catch them.

Only Ghandi really displayed some combat skill by blocking Zoro and clashing with him but thats about the extent of it.

Its too soon to say they are bad fighters lol.
Zoan forms don't have clouds around them
Gorosei were mostly in their awakened forms (that's their strongest modes)

If they can't fight great in awakened modes, then they simply suck combat wise
 

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Who stalled them? The straw hats stalled Saturn for a second and then he blew them away and Robin caught them, then he literally left to go after the Robot lol.

Venusjuro was stalled for a by by Bonney/ The Giants but thats about it.

The rest werent stalled lol.
Nah Saturn lost all of his aura when Weakhats protected Robin from him.
 
Oden was YC of WB pirate


Doesn't matter what's the scenario, kaido was hyped as WSC and yet scabbards and yamato did better

BM is another case
So, it's not only the admirals that has struggled
Me talking about YC level
You "Oden was YC of WB pirate "

Being YC =/= being YC level (mid high tier to high high tier)

Stop acting dense please
 
Zoan forms don't have clouds around them
Gorosei were mostly in their awakened forms (that's their strongest modes)

If they can't fight great in awakened modes, then they simply suck combat wise
Ghandi showed his full Zoan form lol. If you legit believe they dont have Hybrid forms like Ghandi then idk what to tell you lol.
 
Nah Saturn lost all of his aura when Weakhats protected Robin from him.
He was literally talking to the other Gorosei in his head and then when hes had enough of them blew them all away and Robin caught them lol. Its in the manga brother.

Also Oda nerfed him by having him forget he can freeze people and eye explode them lol.
We saw hybrid from horse and saturn at minimum
And Ghandi did much better then them Combat Wise, as for Saturn well he was in his head for the most part of the straw hats ''stalling him'' and then he blew them away and left for the Robot when York told them the Robot had the Broadcast.
 
Ghandi showed his full Zoan form lol. If you legit believe they dont have Hybrid forms like Ghandi then idk what to tell you lol.
The hell are you talking about
Where did you see me away they lack hybrid forms?

Awakened forms > hybrid forms when it comes to which form is stronger
Lucci, luffy, ...all are at their peak when using awakened mode

When did you see zoan form have dark clouds and awakened features around it?

If they can't be great at their peak (awakened state) ,then they simply suck
 
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