You have no arguments, you're a mentally deranged commie calling everyone who disagrees a neonazi. Not only that you failed to delivery any counter arguments.

Also stop being racist and xenophobic. I am part German, but I am not a German citizen or a German national. You are discriminating based on race, guess you hate all white people simply for being white. Unbelievable twisted world view you have.
You're the literal embodiment of the meme: "anyone disagreeing with me is Hitler" Chill you moron. You know fuck all about me. Also no I don't agree with Hitler in the slightest, but the authoritarian left you support has far more in common with him.
You likely don't even know the nazis were at one point setting fixed prices for goods, meaning they were anti-capitalist basically, nor do you know about the privatisation of manufacturing. Go learn history then come back crying, you'll see commies had more in common with Hitler.

Please post a video of yourself REEEEing and screaming like the retard that you are, I will listen to that argument, have a good laugh and share it with everyone.
Do you even understand English my guy? Don’t you see the irony in your own statement? Or in mine? It went right over your head, cuz even though I was just using your own logic against you, you unironically called me a commie and assumed I was seriously calling you a nazi.

You’re beneath arguing with. You’re a full blown culture warrior with a rage boner against anything you perceive to be “left wing.”

You’re such a hypocrite as well, you feel entitled to assume shit about other people based on their “demographics” yet you clutch your pearls like a little bitch when people do the same thing to you.

Keep crying tho, I’m always happy to see retards like you melt down over nothing.
 

K!NG HARA$H!MA

Hustlerversity Graduate
Daily reminder to myself

I don‘t dislike Nick Fuentes and his goofy fanboys enough
This dude is such a weirdo lmfao.


He himself a descendants of Italian and Mexican but larps as pure white breed.
(He even called Poles as barely white and dislike them for not speaking English in America)



Many prominent *White nationalists* / Anti-immigrations like in Twitter for example are themselves immigrants/POC.



If not that, they are very likely married to an Asian or indians like JD Vance.




Why is this such a phenomenon I wonder
 
No, that's not because of the competition, Elon musk is one of the clear example, completely dumb and yet, completely rich.
Eh, you take one extreme to make a point. Plus, you can think whatever you want about Elon Musk but this guy literally has his own means to be a billionaire. That doesn't seem like he's dumb.
I mean, I even agree with you when it comes to the very rich. They probably do a lot of messed up things behind the scenes to be that filthy rich in the first place.

However, I just have a problem with the generalisation of people who are wealthier than you.
For example: One of my acquaintances had his own business but over the years, he was very depressive and got burnout over it despite living quite wealthy. He was a total mess, barely got sleep and was constantly worried. Ultimately, his company went to bankruptcy. His son made another business and now they are on track again.

Sure, I don't deny that there are filthy rich people who would even sacrifice their own mothers to get more money. But it's not always black and white. After all, company owners also create opportunities for job applications with their business. Both parts are crucial in economy.

This is something that everyone can do with the right education
It isn't that simple though because not many even want to carry the responsibilities as a company owner. I mean, I just talk about very small businesses. Then there are several forms of companies. A department manager also gets lots of money but these people also carry more responsibility with projects.

Thus, some just want to work and be lead on, others want to take things in their own matter. Both sides have pro and cons. I'm the former btw.

There is no need for an alternative concept. We simply need a better system

For that, we must get rid of capitalism and liberalism and the belief in meritocracy
I think capitalism is already a good system with its ups and downs. At least it's better than communism.
It's always easy to say "We need a better system" but people need to come up with such things in the first place.

This is called a fatalism. It means that poverty is just a fact of nature and the social life.. it just HAPPENS.

This denies the reponsibility of the system and our beliefs systems. This denies the fact that powerfull and wealthy people are literally doing EVERYTHING to prevent poverty from disappearing. This puts the responsibility on something we can't control.
It all depends on what you're contributing socially and economically.
You cannot expect a person to life in wealth with two low paying part time jobs. Neither can you expect nearly 6 figures with a nursing job (although such jobs are now being paid far better in Germany due to the inquiry of positions).
It's always fine to seek higher, to fight for your rights, to fight for higher wages but you also need to have realistic standards, possible economically.
It's like female football fans criticising why female footballers don't nearly get paid as much as male footballers. It is not a matter if they are being discriminated or not. It's a matter of attracting customers, merch and many other factors why male footballers gain much more money. On the other hand, female models also get higher wage with similar reasons.

I believe we have a good systems but like everything else, it sure can be criticised. Now I don't have a problem with it. However, this entire conversation started when Solis didn't even try to address the real issues but just wants to point the finger at others more successful than him. Sorry but that's really petty imo.
Now onto the actual topic again.
As much as this system needs to hold responsibility for the citizen, we also need to recognize how much it gives people opportunities to make it big. I mean, you could be a Twitch streamer tomorrow and build your entire career around that. Whether you're successful or not is another topic.
That's the good thing about capitalism. How would it be profitable if you have fixed goods? We saw how it escalated in communistic states. The higher ups and riches misused this system for their own greed and gains.
Plus, businesses make positions which you can apply to these. It's two sides of the same coin, it needs both sides. Employers and employees.

I can just say it over again but in comparison to other countries, especially the third world countries, the gap between rich and poor is significantly less over the last decades. Sure, there are still problems but you pretend like they are the worst. You can have no job, no education and still get money from the Government in Germany (it's called Bürgergeld). They also pay for a part of your rent in apartments owned by the agencies. They also cover your heating bills. If you can life with that money, it's another question but there are preventions that you're not ending up homeless. Health care? You're also secured if you apply to these agencies for Bürgergeld.

Its not at all because billionnaires are lobbying to negate workers rights or rightist people militing to suppress social servives or working conditions or refusing to give better wage...
Then it's better to address these issues instead of saying "Riches and Government = bad".
I'm all in for better wages, especially due to the recent inflation currently in Germany (honestly, the government fucked up our economy so much) but would I really change the system? Nope, because I think it's still a very good concept.
 
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Zemmi

GodMommie
This dude is such a weirdo lmfao.


He himself a descendants of Italian and Mexican but larps as pure white breed.
(He even called Poles as barely white and dislike them for not speaking English in America)



Many prominent *White nationalists* / Anti-immigrations like in Twitter for example are themselves immigrants/POC.



If not that, they are very likely married to an Asian or indians like JD Vance.




Why is this such a phenomenon I wonder
Not sure what figure you are referencing. But I see a lot of people labled white nationalist that most def are not. And people labled anti-immigration because they want legal immigration. So I think people use those labels loosely and wrongly.

America is a country immigration no one is truly anti-immigration we just expect people who want to live here to follow our laws and that starts with coming here leagally.
 

K!NG HARA$H!MA

Hustlerversity Graduate
see a lot of people labled white nationalist that most def are not.
Like who? Give me example?





people labled anti-immigration because they want legal immigration. So I think people use those labels loosely and wrongly.
Often there's very little difference between the two.


Many don't just want immigration, but they want deportation as well


And in many cases the legal immigrants they talking about is strictly reserved for the Whites

America is a country immigration no one is truly anti-immigration we just expect people who want to live here to follow our laws and that starts with coming here leagally

Not True.


Many Americans Nationalist want just want gatekeep America and truly anti-immigrants
 
This dude is such a weirdo lmfao.


He himself a descendants of Italian and Mexican but larps as pure white breed.
(He even called Poles as barely white and dislike them for not speaking English in America)



Many prominent *White nationalists* / Anti-immigrations like in Twitter for example are themselves immigrants/POC.



If not that, they are very likely married to an Asian or indians like JD Vance.




Why is this such a phenomenon I wonder
Fuentes surely fell too many times on his head during his feeding time
 
They probably do a lot of messed up things behind the scenes to be that filthy rich in the first place.
No. They simply have been benefiting from all the right capitals.


However, I just have a problem with the generalisation of people who are wealthier than you.
For example: One of my acquaintances had his own business but over the years, he was very depressive and got burnout over it despite living quite wealthy. He was a total mess, barely got sleep and was constantly worried. Ultimately, his company went to bankruptcy. His son made another business and now they are on track again.

Sure, I don't deny that there are filthy rich people who would even sacrifice their own mothers to get more money. But it's not always black and white. After all, company owners also create opportunities for job applications with their business. Both parts are crucial in economy.
I think you are not understanding what I'm saying. My point of view on capitals is scientific and methodical.

At no point am I saying that rich people are bad people, there are very good rich people. I'm analysing the sociology of their wealth and power.

I'm simply making the observation of the factual social data that drives people's lives. You really need to watch this video.


It isn't that simple though because not many even want to carry the responsibilities as a company owner. I mean, I just talk about very small businesses. Then there are several forms of companies. A department manager also gets lots of money but these people also carry more responsibility with projects.

Thus, some just want to work and be lead on, others want to take things in their own matter. Both sides have pro and cons. I'm the former btw.
I'm not saying that everyone wants it. I'm saying that everyone can AS LONG AS they have the same chances as others. But in reality, people are not equal in term of education, culture, economy or social. Which is why there are inequalities in the first place.


I think capitalism is already a good system with its ups and downs. At least it's better than communism.
It's always easy to say "We need a better system" but people need to come up with such things in the first place.
No, capitalism is not good, its bad, VERY BAD. its responsible for the majority of inequalities in the world and million of million of death.

Also, do not confuse communism what you know about stalinism or maoism. While those two are indeed based on marxism, they are not based fully on materialism and therefore are very authoritarians. Communism is supposed to be something MUCH better that what we saw on the planet.

What we need is an anti-capitalist system, not a capitalist one. I still don't know which one I prefer between anarchism and communism, but that will definitely not be capitalism.

You cannot expect a person to life in wealth with two low paying part time jobs. Neither can you expect nearly 6 figures with a nursing job (although such jobs are now being paid far better in Germany due to the inquiry of positions).
And yet we should. Those poverty situation are not normal. Noone should live in poverty.

Its not "life", its simply the result of a bad system and bad belief system. (such as meritocracy or liberalism)

It's always fine to seek higher, to fight for your rights, to fight for higher wages but you also need to have realistic standards, possible economically.
The realistic standard is the redistribution of wealth. Its the realist and human thing to do to flatten inequalities.
Only those who refuse that are irrealist (and inhuman)


Now I don't have a problem with it.
That's why I'm on the side of the poor and on the left, and you are not

:kayneshrug:


As much as this system needs to hold responsibility for the citizen, we also need to recognize how much it gives people opportunities to make it big
This is a lie. An illusion created by the situation to make you defend the system.
No. the system doesn't create opportunities for people or rather, not for everyone. It creates opportunities for those who have all the right capitals, not the others.


That's the good thing about capitalism.
The illusion of opportunity is actually the bad thing about capitalism. Because there are exception doesn't mean that there is a generalization.

How would it be profitable if you have fixed goods? We saw how it escalated in communistic states.
It escalated because of authoritarism, not because of fixed prices or the raise of wages.

Then it's better to address these issues instead of saying "Riches and Government = bad".
The problems with rich people and government is not that they are bad because they are bad people. Its because they only work for their interest

In short, the bourgeoisie doesn't care to better working conditions and will almost always favor politics benefiting their own economical interest simply because most of them believe strongly in meritocracy and therefore believe that if you are poor, you can only blame yourself. This is why The far right is not a problem for liberals and why the far right, conservatives and liberal will almost always vote the same economical politics.

So funny that one of the dumbest persons who sits 24/7 in his home, hasn‘t achieved anything in his life, is fed by french tax payers calling Elon Musk dumb🤡
See @Sentinel ? This is what the belief in meritocracy does.

Everything problematic in the meritocratic belief system is demonstrated in this sentence:
- The defense of Billionnaires based on merit
- The attack on taxation and social services
- The injonction to be productive in life to be worthy
- The contempt for people who are not productive

All of this because of the meritocratic myth that when you are rich, its because of your merit, your work and your production and its therefore deserved AND when you are poor, its because you are dumb, unworthy and its therefore your own fault.

This is the major problem of capitalism and liberalism.

This is what creates inequalities and this is what pushes people to hate poor people despite their difficulties. This is also what pushes some people to hate strangers or racialized people who benefit from those social services.

Capitalism and meritocracy are the problems and the solution is a better system
 

Zemmi

GodMommie
Like who? Give me example?







Often there's very little difference between the two.


Many don't just want immigration, but they want deportation as well


And in many cases the legal immigrants they talking about is strictly reserved for the Whites




Not True.


Many Americans Nationalist want just want gatekeep America and truly anti-immigrants

Are you American? If so are you from a rural area or a large city?

Any person who isn't white or those who have deep bonds with those who aren't white can't not be white nationalist. It goes against a deep seeded human nature which is also found through out the animal kingdom in several species that is primal and tribal that can't just be overridden.

Americans tend to want to be the greatest and best country which we somewhat reached here and there. We know it's because of immigration, so we support immigration because that is what makes this country so blessed. People who are willing to break the law start off on a bad foot already because it's the first sign they might be harmful. Those who break laws especially serious ones like murder/rape should be instantly sent back.

Many people here prefer to see Muslim or Indian doctors, afraid white doctors aren't quite as good. :milaugh:Me, I am many people.
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Eh, you take one extreme to make a point. Plus, you can think whatever you want about Elon Musk but this guy literally has his own means to be a billionaire. That doesn't seem like he's dumb.
I mean, I even agree with you when it comes to the very rich. They probably do a lot of messed up things behind the scenes to be that filthy rich in the first place.

However, I just have a problem with the generalisation of people who are wealthier than you.
For example: One of my acquaintances had his own business but over the years, he was very depressive and got burnout over it despite living quite wealthy. He was a total mess, barely got sleep and was constantly worried. Ultimately, his company went to bankruptcy. His son made another business and now they are on track again.

Sure, I don't deny that there are filthy rich people who would even sacrifice their own mothers to get more money. But it's not always black and white. After all, company owners also create opportunities for job applications with their business. Both parts are crucial in economy.



It isn't that simple though because not many even want to carry the responsibilities as a company owner. I mean, I just talk about very small businesses. Then there are several forms of companies. A department manager also gets lots of money but these people also carry more responsibility with projects.

Thus, some just want to work and be lead on, others want to take things in their own matter. Both sides have pro and cons. I'm the former btw.



I think capitalism is already a good system with its ups and downs. At least it's better than communism.
It's always easy to say "We need a better system" but people need to come up with such things in the first place.



It all depends on what you're contributing socially and economically.
You cannot expect a person to life in wealth with two low paying part time jobs. Neither can you expect nearly 6 figures with a nursing job (although such jobs are now being paid far better in Germany due to the inquiry of positions).
It's always fine to seek higher, to fight for your rights, to fight for higher wages but you also need to have realistic standards, possible economically.
It's like female football fans criticising why female footballers don't nearly get paid as much as male footballers. It is not a matter if they are being discriminated or not. It's a matter of attracting customers, merch and many other factors why male footballers gain much more money. On the other hand, female models also get higher wage with similar reasons.

I believe we have a good systems but like everything else, it sure can be criticised. Now I don't have a problem with it. However, this entire conversation started when Solis didn't even try to address the real issues but just wants to point the finger at others more successful than him. Sorry but that's really petty imo.
Now onto the actual topic again.
As much as this system needs to hold responsibility for the citizen, we also need to recognize how much it gives people opportunities to make it big. I mean, you could be a Twitch streamer tomorrow and build your entire career around that. Whether you're successful or not is another topic.
That's the good thing about capitalism. How would it be profitable if you have fixed goods? We saw how it escalated in communistic states. The higher ups and riches misused this system for their own greed and gains.
Plus, businesses make positions which you can apply to these. It's two sides of the same coin, it needs both sides. Employers and employees.

I can just say it over again but in comparison to other countries, especially the third world countries, the gap between rich and poor is significantly less over the last decades. Sure, there are still problems but you pretend like they are the worst. You can have no job, no education and still get money from the Government in Germany (it's called Bürgergeld). They also pay for a part of your rent in apartments owned by the agencies. They also cover your heating bills. If you can life with that money, it's another question but there are preventions that you're not ending up homeless. Health care? You're also secured if you apply to these agencies for Bürgergeld.



Then it's better to address these issues instead of saying "Riches and Government = bad".
I'm all in for better wages, especially due to the recent inflation currently in Germany (honestly, the government fucked up our economy so much) but would I really change the system? Nope, because I think it's still a very good concept.
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