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While I don't put any Admiral above Prime Garp (yet) Hachinosu absolutely and utterly crushed the notion that Garp was ever something out of the ordinary amongst the Navy Top Tiers. He dissapointed in every sense of the word.
Why? Garp's AdCoC punch from the sky destroyed a town - when no other admirals shown any sign of CoC. Before Shiryu's strike, Garp was the one shown to have the upper hand in his fight against Kuzan.

It is because of Hachinosu where I'm leaning towards this now.
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Yeah, because you cant read properly
 

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That's always a possibility but why wouldn't Logia fruits have an awakening if the other classes do ?

I still like the idea of a blizzard that nerves Kuzan’s oponnents vision, movement and even observation Haki. Something like Logia awakening putting the user in the ideal environment for him to win the fight no matter where he is, which also directly causes a lot of environmental damage.
I like the idea of their base abilities just leveling up drawing from their energy source.

Kuzan able to go absolute zero, or even do deep freezes without touching directly.

Kizaru generating his maximum charged lasers casually without needing to charge them at all. Or when he does charge them they are on an entirely different scale and potency.

Etc. it'd be cool to see some distinction from other df classes.
 
Never said it was Prime Garp. Oda clearly used Shiryu to finish the fight quick because before that intervention Garp and Kuzan bloodied each other up equally and Garp was even slightly dominating but then he got stabbed and went down in like 2 hits. Inevitably every OP fan thinks back to the monster that was sickbeard who kept walking through anything.

Oda definitely did Garp dirty
Sickbeard was indeed enduring a lot of attacks, but keep in mind just being stabbed by Squardo made him start having heart attacks. It was so bad that Akainu could literally just get a free hit in.
Garp managing to match Kuzan despite being stabbed is impressive, and although he did eventually go down, that's mostly because of him having bad stamina due to old age and his injuries.
 
Why? Garp's AdCoC punch from the sky destroyed a town - when no other admirals shown any sign of CoC. Before Shiryu's strike, Garp was the one shown to have the upper hand in his fight against Kuzan.
And ? They have their fruit power for a reason no ?
This boils down to us assuming Kuzan couldn't use the extent to his fruit powers due to the collateral it would cause (having PH in mind) and that he had to limit himself to brawling + minimal fruit usage like Ice ball, glove and spear which are very basic fruit abilities tbh.

Garp was stabbed and went down in 2 hits after that....just think back to Sickbeard bro since that's Garp's direct comparison.
 
Garp looks totally amazing bloodying himself over characters drunken Kuzan casually negged lmfao.
Fr , Aokiji while dealing with WB got punched like a fodder to the side that's what means having a fight against a Top tier + High tiers helping him .
When you are Garp/Mihawk level trash, an Admiral’s toilet paper can give you quite a hard time
Raizo recovered from Fraud Bull's fodder ass branches which show how irrelevant they are, it's crazy how they couldn't drain Flame OFF King but they did for Queen and other fodders.

Fraud Bull for you .
^ If this was Garp, Garp would be covered in blood and wheezing after beating Jozu lol. And Mihawk fans would be shitting themselves at how amazing Garp looks since Mihawk can’t beat high tiers loll.
Sneakji at it again ? It's crazy how he couldn't deal with a high tier with his full alert on him until he got distracted .
It’s a manga fact that you have the IQ of a monkey lmfao. It was established repeatedly that Kuzan was holding back and Garp wasn’t
Probably you are on denial , it's established how Kuzan with help couldn't do shit to Garp until he got weakened and he finally got some crumbs against an already weakened Garp's no named hardened punch .
 
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I like the idea of their base abilities just leveling up drawing from their energy source.

Kuzan able to go absolute zero, or even do deep freezes without touching directly.

Kizaru generating his maximum charged lasers casually without needing to charge them at all. Or when he does charge them they are on an entirely different scale and potency.

Etc. it'd be cool to see some distinction from other df classes.
Way too OP for this show
 
That's always a possibility but why wouldn't Logia fruits have an awakening if the other classes do ?

I still like the idea of a blizzard that nerves Kuzan’s oponnents vision, movement and even observation Haki. Something like Logia awakening putting the user in the ideal environment for him to win the fight no matter where he is, which also directly causes a lot of environmental damage.
Yeah, huge blizzards should be the minimum. Freezing akin to Ice Time and Ice Age but without touch, simply by converting the entire environment into a blizzard. In the aftermath of Punk Hazard, it was snowing and freezingly cold, so Aokiji actively using awakening should be a much more potent version than that.

Also, given how hybrid Yamato's Ice beam matched Hybrid Kaido's Boro breath, just imagine how an awakened Hie could create an Ice structure like Flame Dragon Torch and breath the Ice beam equivalent of Blazing Bagua?

I'd like for Loda to display that.

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If Pranks ditched his sword and started punching on par with Garp the Fist you would say he's above 3 Admirals put together...I'm being quite humble here.
Only if his sword was useless against a top tier haki master - lets ignore how ice ball was useless against Garp's haki, right? Your clown ass is trying to farm some likes from these admiral wankers - pathetic.

Garp was stabbed and went down in 2 hits after that....just think back to Sickbeard bro since that's Garp's direct comparison
This just shows how devastating Shiryu's strike was. Every sword strike is not the same.

This boils down to us assuming Kuzan couldn't use the extent to his fruit powers due to the collateral it would cause (having PH in mind) and that he had to limit himself to brawling + minimal fruit usage like Ice ball, glove and spear which are very basic fruit abilities tbh.
"due to the collateral" - Who was Kuzan caring about? Vasco Shot? PH was a 10 day fight, not comparable
 

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Fr , Aokiji while dealing with WB got punched like a fodder to the side that's what having a fight against a Top tier + High tiers helping him .
You talking about when Kuzan literally was showing concern for Garp’s wounds lmfao?

Ask yourself why Oda is always character nerfing the Admirals, but never Mihawk, Garp, Saint Shanks, Crydo, etc…lol

Raizo recovered from Fraud Bull's fodder ass branches which show how irrelevant they are, it's crazy how they couldn't drain Flame OFF King but they did for Queen and other fodders.
Yeah totally bro. Toilet paper looking great right now


Sneakji at it again ? It's crazy how he couldn't deal with a high tier with his full alert on him until he got distracted .
It’s crazy how Garp and Mihawk can’t deal with high tiers at all. Lol

Probably you are on denial , it's established how Kuzan with help couldn't do shit to Garp until he got weakened and he finally got some crumbs against an already weakened Garp's no named hardened punch .
If Mihawk threw down his sword and matched Garp the fist in a punching contest, you would probably have a heart attack lmfao.

But instead you have to watch Vista matching Mihawk at his own game
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I already gave up on these mfs when @comrade pointed out this against Rayleigh :


Old rayleigh thinks in his Prime he would have left Kizaru in dust and went on his way to save straw hats from Pacifista , Kuma and Sentomaru in which Kizaru didn't deny at all 😂.

Kizaru couldn't get past an old version of Rayleigh , and stamina issue is the only reason that put him on the losing end .

Prime Rayleigh > Old Rayleigh with no stamina issue ~ Kizaru >~ Old Rayleigh with stamina issue .
And like @ConquistadoR pointed out in Admirals faction, Only CoC Users like Garp and Sengoku have a shit here while others are just Old Version of themselves .
 
This just shows how devastating Shiryu's strike was. Every sword strike is not the same.
A sword through the body is a sword through the body lol. Akainu melting off half of sickbeard's face and putting a hole in him which also burns his inner organs while he's conscious to feel every bit of it is way more devastating and guess what ? He kept taking countless attacks while it took 1 punch and 1 ice spear to put Garp down.

The difference is too great to compare it.

due to the collateral" - Who was Kuzan caring about? Vasco Shot? PH was a 10 day fight, not comparable
Funny you say that. Kuzan was factually caring about Garp per his own words and then he is a member of the BBP's fighting on their own home turf. Who would wreck their own base ?

The duration of the fight doesn't matter, what's important is the abilities used. Every island Kuzan goes all out in ends like PH.
 
Yeah Garp looked like a champ working real hard to defeat these guys lmfao:


Garp looks totally amazing bloodying himself over characters drunken Kuzan casually negged lmfao.



Yeah these guys are super relevant to Garp I agree:


When you are Garp/Mihawk level trash, an Admiral’s toilet paper can give you quite a hard time






^ If this was Garp, Garp would be covered in blood and wheezing after beating Jozu lol. And Mihawk fans would be shitting themselves at how amazing Garp looks since Mihawk can’t beat high tiers loll.



It’s a manga fact that you have the IQ of a monkey lmfao. It was established repeatedly that Kuzan was holding back and Garp wasn’t
Aokiji with freezy breath and a sword made of effing ice cubes and haki was able to freeze, slice and dice a dude made of frikkin diamonds with haki like nothing.


Meanwhile the world's greatest slice 'n' dicer couldn't even scratch diamond dude while only half diamond?


Gasp! How could this happen hawkbros?
 
I already gave up on these mfs when @comrade pointed out this against Rayleigh :


Old rayleigh thinks in his Prime he would have left Kizaru in dust and went on his way to save straw hats from Pacifista , Kuma and Sentomaru in which Kizaru didn't deny at all 😂.

Kizaru couldn't get past an old version of Rayleigh , and stamina issue is the only reason that put him on the losing end .

Prime Rayleigh > Old Rayleigh with no stamina issue ~ Kizaru >~ Old Rayleigh with stamina issue .
And like @ConquistadoR pointed out in Admirals faction, Only CoC Users like Garp and Sengoku have a shit here while others are just Old Version of themselves .
I think I remember someone saying Kizaru could have spawned clones against Ray and beat him that way
Which is funny as fuck considering all the evidence that implies none of Kizaru's ordinary abilities would let him overwhelm Ray there
 
You talking about when Kuzan literally was showing concern for Garp’s wounds lmfao?

Ask yourself why Oda is always character nerfing the Admirals, but never Mihawk, Garp, Saint Pranks, Crydo, etc…lol
You should ask Yourself why Oda always gives Admirals's feats against Distracted and hospitalised High Tiers .
Yeah totally bro. Toilet paper looking great right now
Raizo disagrees with fodder branches .
It’s crazy how Garp and Mihawk can’t deal with high tiers at all. Lol
Like Aokiji who needed a sneak against Jozu .
If Mihawk threw down his sword and matched Garp the fist in a punching contest, you would probably have a heart attack lmfao.

But instead you have to watch Vista matching Mihawk at his own game
I don't need crumbs like that , i wouldn't have been hyped over Zoro clashing against an already weakened Mf .
 
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