Current Events Kuzan Is A Contender For One Piece - Why Oda Doesn’t Care About Swordsmen

[ZenZu]

Only if his sword was useless against a top tier haki master - lets ignore how ice ball was useless against Garp's haki, right? Your clown ass is trying to farm some likes from these admiral wankers - pathetic.

You are so scared to witness an Admiral unrestricted, it's evident. You want to close the polls right now while these dudes are hesitating and awakening is still up in the air 😂

This deep into the story and Oda still refuses to let them loose. Kuzan hesitating against Garp, Fuji and GB at the reverie, Kizaru on egghead. And these aren't Admiral fans, these are direct statements from Oda, the story itself.

If that doesn't tell you how careful Oda is unleashing them you're not reading One Piece, you're reading agendapiece.

If we see one without restrictions or caveats so be it, you're not catching me lying for cartoon characters.

 

[MarineHQ]

Ice ball, Ice spear and Ice Glove are Kuzan’s strongest Logia abilities 🤣🤣

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

I already gave up on these mfs when @comrade pointed out this against Rayleigh :

Old rayleigh thinks in his Prime he would have left Kizaru in dust and went on his way to save straw hats from Pacifista , Kuma and Sentomaru in which Kizaru didn't deny at all 😂.

Kizaru couldn't get past an old version of Rayleigh , and stamina issue is the only reason that put him on the losing end .

Prime Rayleigh > Old Rayleigh with no stamina issue ~ Kizaru >~ Old Rayleigh with stamina issue .
And like @ConquistadoR pointed out in Admirals faction, Only CoC Users like Garp and Sengoku have a shit here while others are just Old Version of themselves .

I’ve never seen Fenaker get ragdolled so hard he has to bring up completely unrelated scenes to beg for mercy

You should ask Yourself why Oda always gives Admirals's feats against Distracted and hospitalised High Tiers .

You should ask yourself why Garp getting supposedly bloodied by Vasco shot is supposed to impress anyone lmfao.

Or why Mihawk begging for mercy from Vista is supposed to be an impressive feat.

Like Aokiji who needed a sneak against Jozu .

Yeah you’re right, I’m sure if Jozu didn’t get distracted, Aokiji would’ve looked just as pathetic as Garp looks in the actual canon


I wish I could place as much value on my headcanon while ignoring the actual manga as you do

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

A sword through the body is a sword through the body lol.

This is where you are wrong. Whitebeard had like 200+ sword wounds. Squardo's stab wasn't the only one - his body was pierced multiple times with a sword. Oda never highlighted those.
When it comes to Garp, Oda highlighted the effect of Shiryu's strikes several times.

Funny you say that. Kuzan was factually caring about Garp per his own words and then he is a member of the BBP's fighting on their own home turf. Who would wreck their own base ?

Yeah, it was also Kuzan who said Garp couldn't leave the island.

If we see one without restrictions or caveats so be it, you're not catching me lying for cartoon characters.

Sure, just like Kizaru surpassed your expectations in terms of powerlevels

You are so scared to witness an Admiral unrestricted, it's evident. You want to close the polls right now while these dudes are hesitating and awakening is still up in the air 😂

No, its sad to see you turn into a run in the mill admiral wanker, you are better than this

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

I’ve never seen Fenaker get ragdolled so hard he has to bring up completely unrelated scenes to beg for mercy

Admirals fandom when bringing truth out , they start coping

You should ask yourself why Garp getting supposedly bloodied by Vasco shot is supposed to impress anyone lmfao.

Or why Mihawk begging for mercy from Vista is supposed to be an impressive feat.

Nah i should ask why only after Shit-yu's stab fodders believed they could win but not before when Sneakji was getting rag dolled with fodders alike 😔

Yeah you’re right, I’m sure if Jozu didn’t get distracted, Aokiji would’ve looked just as pathetic as Garp looks in the actual canon

Like Kizaru who needed Marco to be distracted

I wish I could place as much value on my headcanon while ignoring the actual canon as you do

The Value of having Admirals feats against Hospitalised and distracted High Tiers

 

[Dragon777]

Maybe, that remains to be seen. As i said, if Oda goes ahead and gives Aokiji and Akainu CoC, that is definitely the case.

Until then, i dont really see a difference between FA level & Admiral level.

There are differences between pirates top btw. But maybe Kizaru will show something more.

 

[SakazOuki]

Fr , Aokiji while dealing with WB got punched like a fodder to the side that's what means having a fight against a Top tier + High tiers helping him .

Raizo recovered from Fraud Bull's fodder ass branches which show how irrelevant they are, it's crazy how they couldn't drain Flame OFF King but they did for Queen and other fodders.

Fraud Bull for you .

Sneakji at it again ? It's crazy how he couldn't deal with a high tier with his full alert on him until he got distracted .

Probably you are on denial , it's established how Kuzan with help couldn't do shit to Garp until he got weakened and he finally got some crumbs against an already weakened Garp's no named hardened punch .

You’re still crying about Ling the fertilizer
P.s this moment is better than Posthawk‘s entire career

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

There are two ways to look at Kuzan's performance and I think it's where opinions that are completely opposite come from
1) Brawling was actually his main fighting style all along. He was going all out, his fruit being only useful for fodder control. His performance is then kind of disappointing, even it was suggested twice he could be going soft against his mentor. No way to paint him as on par with Prime Garp in good faith
2)He was holding back his DF use for whatever reason (no wanting to turn his crew headquarters into Punk Hazard 2, still hesitating about using his full power against his mentor or simply Oda not having characters use their full arsenal when it's not the time yet) his performance then become good to absolutely monstrous considering how overpowered his fruit could be.

I'm a second option guy because
-the aftereffects of Punk Hazard (literally negging post-ts Luffy from the cold alone)
-Mary Geoise flashback a few chapters before that emphasizing that admirals using their real power would wipe the map lean,
-It being unlikely that Oda would have a character show their full power when they're mean to have more relevance later in the story and Kuzan being one of them with that spread last chapter

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

You’re still crying about Ling the fertilizer
P.s this moment is better than Posthawk‘s entire career

The History of fighting against distacted and hospitalised High Tiers continues .

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Nah i should ask why only after Shit-yu's stab fodders believed they could win but not before when Sneakji was getting rag dolled with fodders alike 😔

“I am deeply concerned with the opinions of ignorant fodder”-Fenaker 2024

“I place high value in the opinions of deranged people”-Fenaker 2025

Like Kizaru who needed Marco to be distracted

Kuzan didn’t need distractions to utterly neg diff characters who bloodied Garp, according to you lmfao.

Mihawk still hasn’t beaten a single commander in history. Friendly reminder.

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

I'm a second option guy because
-the aftereffects of Punk Hazard (literally negging post-ts Luffy from the cold alone)
-Mary Geoise flashback a few chapters before that emphasizing that admirals using their real power would wipe the map lean, --It being unlikely that Oda would have a character show their full power when they're mean to have more relevance later in the story and Kuzan being one of them with that spread last chapter

Funnily enough, his freezing power was useless against Garp .

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

“I am deeply concerned with the opinions of ignorant fodder”-Fenaker 2024

“I place high value in the opinions of deranged people”-Fenaker 2025

Coping already about what panels show

Kuzan didn’t need distractions to utterly neg diff characters who bloodied Garp, according to you lmfao.

Mihawk still hasn’t beaten a single commander in history. Friendly reminder.

I better have Mihawk not beating a distacted and hospitalised mfs like Admirals

 

[MarineHQ]

This is where you are wrong. Whitebeard had like 200+ sword wounds. Squardo's stab wasn't the only one - his body was pierced multiple times with a sword. Oda never highlighted those.
When it comes to Garp, Oda highlighted the effect of Shiryu's strikes several times.

What nonsense is this argument ?
Squardo's stab was the first WB took and it was the catalyst that marked the rapid downfall of his health and it went through his entire body whereas most other fodders didn't get that far.
That Garp already wobbled after Shiryu’s stab speaks more for his pathetic endurance in comparison to Sickbeard as for Shiryu’s stab level. Oda already highlighted what someone like Shiryu means to someone like Garp.

Yeah, it was also Kuzan who said Garp couldn't leave the island.

And he didn't. One statement doesn't contradict the other especially when Garp confirmed twice that those thoughts of Kuzan were sincere but I guess let's ignore context because it doesn't fit in today's agenda.

 

[SakazOuki]

The History of fighting against distacted and hospitalised High Tiers continues .

-> the top tier Mihawk is afraid of approaching, wants to measure distance first (get humiliated by Yc3 Jozu)
-> the high tier Mihawk postponed against

 

[Kurozumi Wiwi]

The irrelevant Vista's rival who didn't get to be featured on the final spread last chapter fans shouldn't be allowed to downplay actually relevant endgame characters lmao

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

“I am deeply concerned with the opinions of ignorant fodder”-Fenaker 2024

“I place high value in the opinions of deranged people”-Fenaker 2025



Kuzan didn’t need distractions to utterly neg diff characters who bloodied Garp, according to you lmfao.

Mihawk still hasn’t beaten a single commander in history. Friendly reminder.

Morley and Karasu clashed with Aramaki and Issho and escaped with no injuries

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

What nonsense is this argument ?
Squardo's stab was the first WB took and it was the catalyst that marked the rapid downfall of his health and it went through his entire body whereas most other fodders didn't get that far.
That Garp already wobbled after Shiryu’s stab speaks more for his pathetic endurance in comparison to Sickbeard as for Shiryu’s stab level. Oda already highlighted what someone like Shiryu means to someone like Garp.


And he didn't. One statement doesn't contradict the other especially when Garp confirmed twice that those thoughts of Kuzan were sincere but I guess let's ignore context because it doesn't fit in today's agenda.

 

[MarineHQ]

Take some rest bro. We are on break.

 

[SakazOuki]

@Lee Ba Shou @MarineHQ @ZenZu friendly reminder that every single clown you’re arguing with thinks pocket knife Mihawk beats fruitless Aokiji

 

[Fleet Leader Fenaker]

Take some rest bro. We are on break.

The first quote was good but the second sounded like a cope .