Controversial General Political Discussion

[Reborn]

Not staged(duh),but there could be real consipracy here. As you stated, these many mistakes make it seem like they wanted that kid to make that shot.

Local law enforcement has said the secret service has lied about the local cops responsibilities that day. Which is also worth side-eyeing.

can you post the link for the animation?

Bro it’s not even 10 mins before, like they knew about that an hour beforehand. By the time he got on the roof, they already knew he was there and then decided to stare him down for another 20 mins. Inside job doesn’t necessarily mean that Trump himself or the entire secret service/police personnel were in on it, just that the leaders and supervisors in charge of setting up the perimeters and leading those units did all they could for that shooter. That can’t be chalked up to just negligence.

Let me share another info which I saw on news

One of the law enforcement sniper took picture of the shooter minutes before he fired. Crazy right?


What doesnt make sense is if someone wanted Trump assassinated then why hire a 20 years old amateur school rifle team reject to get job done rather than a professional?

Definitely secret service has lot to explain and regardless of their justification, people responsible needs to be fired with investigation on them.


And, I will share the link (nameless)

 

[Zemmi]

Let me share another info which I saw on news

One of the law enforcement sniper took picture of the shooter minutes before he fired. Crazy right?


What doesnt make sense is if someone wanted Trump assassinated then why hire a 20 years old amateur school rifle team reject to get job done rather than a professional?

Definitely secret service has lot to explain and regardless of their justification, people responsible needs to be fired with investigation on them.


And, I will share the link (nameless)

I don't like conspiracy theories, god I hate them, but it's hard not to roll with this one.

My question is if you wanted to hire some. Would you hire someone of significance or someone no one would miss? People say anyone could be taught to take that in less than an hour.

 

[Reborn]

I don't like conspiracy theories, god I hate them, but it's hard not to roll with this one.

My question is if you wanted to hire some. Would you hire someone of significance or someone no one would miss? People say anyone could be taught to take that in less than an hour.

I am not US citizen but you guys need to consider this


1) can secret service agents (not 1 or 2 but entire agency involved) stoop so low to get involved in conspiracy to assassinate someone?

Or

2)if not conspiracy then can they be so negligent and complacent to make so many mistakes?


To me, both scenarios are dangerous.

 

[Haoshoku]

Lets wait and see. I really doubt Ukraine would have happened if Trump was in Charge. Trump made even fat Kim stop with the nuke threads and we got that historical meeting in South Korea. Trump is not just another deep state scumbag.

He kind of is already lol. Like in 2016 he came out and looked like an outsider but once he got in his administration was already crawling with pro establishment politicians that stand contrary to his own supposed vision of America first .This Vance guy is like the furthest from that with his rhetoric of bombing Iran so far. There are other clowns like Nikki Haley too who are going to be with him too. And with Gaza, Trump is going to be the same as Biden.

The war in Ukraine is already slowing down so Trump might get credited with that once it becomes a frozen conflict.

 

[Logiko]

I don't like conspiracy theories, god I hate them, but it's hard not to roll with this one.

My question is if you wanted to hire some. Would you hire someone of significance or someone no one would miss? People say anyone could be taught to take that in less than an hour.

Remember guys

The more the person in a secret, the harder to keep the secret from leaking out.

Having a large part of inexperienced and completely exposed agents in on a so called conspiracy to kill Trump would be literally a dumb move.

Again guys, do not underestimate the potential of humanity for incompetence and stupidity.

 

[Zemmi]

I am not US citizen but you guys need to consider this


1) can secret service agents (not 1 or 2 but entire agency involved) stoop so low to get involved in conspiracy to assassinate someone?

Or

2)if not conspiracy then can they be so negligent and complacent to make so many mistakes?


To me, both scenarios are dangerous.

I hope it's because of a bad appointment of a head of secret service. Thanks Biden.

When I watched the event happen, my mind wouldn't let me believe it was shooting for a good while. I don't want to believe our government can be that corrupt. I'm just pointing out the information that makes it hard to overlook.

 

[Reborn]

Don't know the motive of the shooter but his act of shooting Trump and failing put Trump to get landslide victory in upcoming elections. That clown CNN predicted 320+ seats for Trump.

It ended up uniting Republicans and dividing democrats. Biden or no Biden - it doesn't matter anymore.

And, you know what? Many people say democrats are themselves responsible for this. They and the media branded Trump as Hitler who needs to be punched.... such narrative do influence people and someone tried to kill him and it backfired... badly...

 

[Zemmi]

 

[Haoshoku]

I am not US citizen but you guys need to consider this


1) can secret service agents (not 1 or 2 but entire agency involved) stoop so low to get involved in conspiracy to assassinate someone?

Or

2)if not conspiracy then can they be so negligent and complacent to make so many mistakes?


To me, both scenarios are dangerous.

It doesn’t have to be the entire agency, that’s not how inside jobs work. Like they clearly had the worst secret service personell on the ground for Trump. It’s more so about the leaders and supervisors who were in charge of coordinating and setting up the security perimeters for that event. The secret service are experts at doing exactly that, they don’t do anything else except securing premises and escorting White House officials. For them to drop the ball like that doesn’t make any sense even if it was the c-team.

Remember guys

The more the person in a secret, the harder to keep the secret from leaking out.

Having a large part of inexperienced and completely exposed agents in on a so called conspiracy to kill Trump would be literally a dumb move.

Again guys, do not underestimate the potential of humanity for incompetence and stupidity.

You guys aren’t familiar with how inside jobs are purported to go, those agents are simply pawns on the board for a lack of better terms. Obviously if the entire agency was involved then there would have been whistleblowers long before Trump even set foot in that town. You don’t need everyone to be in on it, the leaders who are in charge of managing the personnel and who are in charge of what to do are the ones who are suspicious af and more than likely in on it with another powerful actor.

 

[Reborn]

It doesn’t have to be the entire agency, that’s not how inside jobs work. Like they clearly had the worst secret service personell on the ground for Trump. It’s more so about the leaders and supervisors who were in charge of coordinating and setting up the security perimeters for that event. The secret service are experts at doing exactly that, they don’t do anything else except securing premises and escorting White House officials. For them to drop the ball like that doesn’t make any sense even if it was the c-team.

You guys aren’t familiar with how inside jobs are purported to go, those agents are simply pawns on the board for a lack of better terms. Obviously if the entire agency was involved then there would have been whistleblowers long before Trump even set foot in that town. You don’t need everyone to be in on it, the leaders who are in charge of managing the personnel and who are in charge of what to do are the ones who are suspicious af and more than likely in on it with another powerful actor.

I am not ruling out what you said. Keeping an open mind.


Btw, Trump is one damn lucky guy. Throw whatever shit at him and he somehow comes out on top lol

MC plot Armor

 

[Zemmi]

Don't know the motive of the shooter but his act of shooting Trump and failing put Trump to get landslide victory in upcoming elections. That clown CNN predicted 320+ seats for Trump.

It ended up uniting Republicans and dividing democrats. Biden or no Biden - it doesn't matter anymore.

And, you know what? Many people say democrats are themselves responsible for this. They and the media branded Trump as Hitler who needs to be punched.... such narrative do influence people and someone tried to kill him and it backfired... badly...

The most harmful part for democrats is that they can't paint Trump as inhuman anymore. If you watched the RNC it was one of the most human things I ever saw dealing with politics. Also, people broke their silence. Not all, most have been very classy and honest, but some people of the left have shown their true colors.

 

[Reborn]

The most harmful part for democrats is that they can't paint Trump as inhuman anymore. If you watched the RNC it was one of the most human things I ever saw dealing with politics. Also, people broke their silence. Not all, most have been very classy and honest, but some people of the left have shown their true colors.

I don't know about others but that MSNBC host - Joy

I felt I lost my brain cells when she said Biden getting covid and still coming out is as strong as Trump standing up after getting shot.

 

[Haoshoku]

The most harmful part for democrats is that they can't paint Trump as inhuman anymore. If you watched the RNC it was one of the most human things I ever saw dealing with politics. Also, people broke their silence. Not all, most have been very classy and honest, but some people of the left have shown their true colors.

Malcom X summed up what most democrats are about pretty well:

Spoiler

 

[Zemmi]

I don't know about others but that MSNBC host - Joy

I felt I lost my brain cells when she said Biden getting covid and still coming out is as strong as Trump standing up after getting shot.

She has been the worst offender. I will be surprised if she keeps her job.

 

[Haoshoku]

I don't know about others but that MSNBC host - Joy

I felt I lost my brain cells when she said Biden getting covid and still coming out is as strong as Trump standing up after getting shot.

Lol yeah on the political spectrum MSNBC is the most liberal mainstream news network so not surprising they would say that.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Let me share another info which I saw on news

One of the law enforcement sniper took picture of the shooter minutes before he fired. Crazy right?


What doesnt make sense is if someone wanted Trump assassinated then why hire a 20 years old amateur school rifle team reject to get job done rather than a professional?

Definitely secret service has lot to explain and regardless of their justification, people responsible needs to be fired with investigation on them.


And, I will share the link (nameless)

It was his interview.

 

[Logiko]

You guys aren’t familiar with how inside jobs are purported to go, those agents are simply pawns on the board for a lack of better terms. Obviously if the entire agency was involved then there would have been whistleblowers long before Trump even set foot in that town. You don’t need everyone to be in on it, the leaders who are in charge of managing the personnel and who are in charge of what to do are the ones who are suspicious af and more than likely in on it with another powerful actor.

If that's the case, we should soon get very weird reports from those agents criticizing their hierachy.

 

[Reborn]

It was his interview.

Didn't get your point

 

[Ravagerblade]

Didn't get your point

He was probably propositioned that if he could kill Trump, he'd be allowed in whatever Agency or black outfit. He failed, therefore they executed him.

 

[Zemmi]

I'm learning about the dangers of what is called slopey slopes.